Suppose $H$ is a subgroup of a group $G$ and $aH$ is a left coset. Prove that there exists some $K$ (a...
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Suppose $H$ is a subgroup of a group $G$ and $aH$ is a left coset. Prove that there exists some $K$ (a subgroup of $G$) , which $aH$ is equal to $Ka$.
I've tried to show this statement,but I cant find exactly what is $K$.
abstract-algebra group-theory quotient-group
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Suppose $H$ is a subgroup of a group $G$ and $aH$ is a left coset. Prove that there exists some $K$ (a subgroup of $G$) , which $aH$ is equal to $Ka$.
I've tried to show this statement,but I cant find exactly what is $K$.
abstract-algebra group-theory quotient-group
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If $aH = Ka$, what happens if you move the $a$ to one side?
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– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:27
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It implies that aHa^-1=K which means that a should be in H
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– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:29
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but we want to prove the existance of such K
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– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
First part yes. But why would that imply that $ain H$?
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
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You now have $K = aHa^{-1}$. There is nothing further to be done.
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:32
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Suppose $H$ is a subgroup of a group $G$ and $aH$ is a left coset. Prove that there exists some $K$ (a subgroup of $G$) , which $aH$ is equal to $Ka$.
I've tried to show this statement,but I cant find exactly what is $K$.
abstract-algebra group-theory quotient-group
$endgroup$
Suppose $H$ is a subgroup of a group $G$ and $aH$ is a left coset. Prove that there exists some $K$ (a subgroup of $G$) , which $aH$ is equal to $Ka$.
I've tried to show this statement,but I cant find exactly what is $K$.
abstract-algebra group-theory quotient-group
abstract-algebra group-theory quotient-group
edited Dec 13 '18 at 9:01
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asked Dec 13 '18 at 8:23
Arman_jrArman_jr
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$begingroup$
If $aH = Ka$, what happens if you move the $a$ to one side?
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:27
$begingroup$
It implies that aHa^-1=K which means that a should be in H
$endgroup$
– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:29
$begingroup$
but we want to prove the existance of such K
$endgroup$
– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
First part yes. But why would that imply that $ain H$?
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
You now have $K = aHa^{-1}$. There is nothing further to be done.
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:32
add a comment |
3
$begingroup$
If $aH = Ka$, what happens if you move the $a$ to one side?
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:27
$begingroup$
It implies that aHa^-1=K which means that a should be in H
$endgroup$
– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:29
$begingroup$
but we want to prove the existance of such K
$endgroup$
– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
First part yes. But why would that imply that $ain H$?
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
You now have $K = aHa^{-1}$. There is nothing further to be done.
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:32
3
3
$begingroup$
If $aH = Ka$, what happens if you move the $a$ to one side?
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:27
$begingroup$
If $aH = Ka$, what happens if you move the $a$ to one side?
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:27
$begingroup$
It implies that aHa^-1=K which means that a should be in H
$endgroup$
– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:29
$begingroup$
It implies that aHa^-1=K which means that a should be in H
$endgroup$
– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:29
$begingroup$
but we want to prove the existance of such K
$endgroup$
– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
but we want to prove the existance of such K
$endgroup$
– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
First part yes. But why would that imply that $ain H$?
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
First part yes. But why would that imply that $ain H$?
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
You now have $K = aHa^{-1}$. There is nothing further to be done.
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:32
$begingroup$
You now have $K = aHa^{-1}$. There is nothing further to be done.
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:32
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$$aH=Kaiff aHa^{-1}=K$$
Aldo, note that, by a homomorphism ($xlongmapsto axa^{-1}$ is an automorphism of $G$), the image of a subgroup of $G$ is a subgroup.
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Hint : If $aH = Ka$, then for every $b in H$ there exists $c in K$ such that $ab=ca$. Then, for every $b in H$, there exists $c in K$ such that $c = aba^{-1}$. Or, $aba^{-1} in K$.
Thus, every element of the form $aba^{-1}$ belongs to $K$, where $b in H$. We write this as $aHa^{-1} subset K$, where $aHa^{-1} = {aba^{-1} : b in H}$. Now show that this is a subgroup, and show that in fact $K = aHa^{-1}$. (Hint : we only used the fact that $aH subset Ka$ so far. Use the fact that $Ka subset aH$ for this conclusion).
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$begingroup$
$$aH=Kaiff aHa^{-1}=K$$
Aldo, note that, by a homomorphism ($xlongmapsto axa^{-1}$ is an automorphism of $G$), the image of a subgroup of $G$ is a subgroup.
$endgroup$
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$begingroup$
$$aH=Kaiff aHa^{-1}=K$$
Aldo, note that, by a homomorphism ($xlongmapsto axa^{-1}$ is an automorphism of $G$), the image of a subgroup of $G$ is a subgroup.
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$begingroup$
$$aH=Kaiff aHa^{-1}=K$$
Aldo, note that, by a homomorphism ($xlongmapsto axa^{-1}$ is an automorphism of $G$), the image of a subgroup of $G$ is a subgroup.
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$$aH=Kaiff aHa^{-1}=K$$
Aldo, note that, by a homomorphism ($xlongmapsto axa^{-1}$ is an automorphism of $G$), the image of a subgroup of $G$ is a subgroup.
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Hint : If $aH = Ka$, then for every $b in H$ there exists $c in K$ such that $ab=ca$. Then, for every $b in H$, there exists $c in K$ such that $c = aba^{-1}$. Or, $aba^{-1} in K$.
Thus, every element of the form $aba^{-1}$ belongs to $K$, where $b in H$. We write this as $aHa^{-1} subset K$, where $aHa^{-1} = {aba^{-1} : b in H}$. Now show that this is a subgroup, and show that in fact $K = aHa^{-1}$. (Hint : we only used the fact that $aH subset Ka$ so far. Use the fact that $Ka subset aH$ for this conclusion).
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Hint : If $aH = Ka$, then for every $b in H$ there exists $c in K$ such that $ab=ca$. Then, for every $b in H$, there exists $c in K$ such that $c = aba^{-1}$. Or, $aba^{-1} in K$.
Thus, every element of the form $aba^{-1}$ belongs to $K$, where $b in H$. We write this as $aHa^{-1} subset K$, where $aHa^{-1} = {aba^{-1} : b in H}$. Now show that this is a subgroup, and show that in fact $K = aHa^{-1}$. (Hint : we only used the fact that $aH subset Ka$ so far. Use the fact that $Ka subset aH$ for this conclusion).
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$begingroup$
Hint : If $aH = Ka$, then for every $b in H$ there exists $c in K$ such that $ab=ca$. Then, for every $b in H$, there exists $c in K$ such that $c = aba^{-1}$. Or, $aba^{-1} in K$.
Thus, every element of the form $aba^{-1}$ belongs to $K$, where $b in H$. We write this as $aHa^{-1} subset K$, where $aHa^{-1} = {aba^{-1} : b in H}$. Now show that this is a subgroup, and show that in fact $K = aHa^{-1}$. (Hint : we only used the fact that $aH subset Ka$ so far. Use the fact that $Ka subset aH$ for this conclusion).
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Hint : If $aH = Ka$, then for every $b in H$ there exists $c in K$ such that $ab=ca$. Then, for every $b in H$, there exists $c in K$ such that $c = aba^{-1}$. Or, $aba^{-1} in K$.
Thus, every element of the form $aba^{-1}$ belongs to $K$, where $b in H$. We write this as $aHa^{-1} subset K$, where $aHa^{-1} = {aba^{-1} : b in H}$. Now show that this is a subgroup, and show that in fact $K = aHa^{-1}$. (Hint : we only used the fact that $aH subset Ka$ so far. Use the fact that $Ka subset aH$ for this conclusion).
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If $aH = Ka$, what happens if you move the $a$ to one side?
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– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:27
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It implies that aHa^-1=K which means that a should be in H
$endgroup$
– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:29
$begingroup$
but we want to prove the existance of such K
$endgroup$
– Arman_jr
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
First part yes. But why would that imply that $ain H$?
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
You now have $K = aHa^{-1}$. There is nothing further to be done.
$endgroup$
– Tobias Kildetoft
Dec 13 '18 at 8:32