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Given that a character can cast Planar Ally, what is the highest CR they can summon?

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Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?










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Can they summon a monster with a CR higher than their own level?

Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?







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  • Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
    – SeraphsWrath
    yesterday


















  • Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
    – SeraphsWrath
    yesterday
















Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
– SeraphsWrath
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Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
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There is no limit, yes, and yes.



But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).




There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...




is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.




...although it is sent to primarily aid you:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you




Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.






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    The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
    – doppelgreener
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  • @doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
    – J.E
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  • Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
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    +1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
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There is no limit, yes, and yes.



But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).




There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...




is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.




...although it is sent to primarily aid you:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you




Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.






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    The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
    – doppelgreener
    yesterday












  • @doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
    – J.E
    yesterday










  • Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
    – doppelgreener
    yesterday






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    +1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
    – Reginald Blue
    yesterday















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There is no limit, yes, and yes.



But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).




There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...




is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.




...although it is sent to primarily aid you:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you




Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.






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    The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
    – doppelgreener
    yesterday












  • @doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
    – J.E
    yesterday










  • Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
    – doppelgreener
    yesterday






  • 3




    +1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
    – Reginald Blue
    yesterday













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There is no limit, yes, and yes.



But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).




There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...




is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.




...although it is sent to primarily aid you:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you




Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.






share|improve this answer














There is no limit, yes, and yes.



But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).




There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...




is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.




...although it is sent to primarily aid you:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you




Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.







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    The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
    – doppelgreener
    yesterday












  • @doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
    – J.E
    yesterday










  • Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
    – doppelgreener
    yesterday






  • 3




    +1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
    – Reginald Blue
    yesterday














  • 1




    The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
    – doppelgreener
    yesterday












  • @doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
    – J.E
    yesterday










  • Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
    – doppelgreener
    yesterday






  • 3




    +1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
    – Reginald Blue
    yesterday








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The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener
yesterday






The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener
yesterday














@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
yesterday




@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
yesterday












Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener
yesterday




Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener
yesterday




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+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
yesterday




+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
yesterday










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