What are things like Bread, Rice and Cereal collectively known as?
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I'm not sure this belongs here or in the English language stack exchange but here goes: We have broad classifications like "Fruit" and "Vegetable" and "Meat"/"Protein". What do you collectively call bread, rice, pasta, cereal etc. My fist guess was "Grains" but that feels like referring to the unprocessed thing rather than the food.
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I'm not sure this belongs here or in the English language stack exchange but here goes: We have broad classifications like "Fruit" and "Vegetable" and "Meat"/"Protein". What do you collectively call bread, rice, pasta, cereal etc. My fist guess was "Grains" but that feels like referring to the unprocessed thing rather than the food.
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Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
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@TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
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I'm not sure this belongs here or in the English language stack exchange but here goes: We have broad classifications like "Fruit" and "Vegetable" and "Meat"/"Protein". What do you collectively call bread, rice, pasta, cereal etc. My fist guess was "Grains" but that feels like referring to the unprocessed thing rather than the food.
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I'm not sure this belongs here or in the English language stack exchange but here goes: We have broad classifications like "Fruit" and "Vegetable" and "Meat"/"Protein". What do you collectively call bread, rice, pasta, cereal etc. My fist guess was "Grains" but that feels like referring to the unprocessed thing rather than the food.
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Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
– Tanner Swett
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@TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
– ColonD
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Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
– Tanner Swett
yesterday
@TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
– ColonD
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Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
– Tanner Swett
yesterday
Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
– Tanner Swett
yesterday
@TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
– ColonD
17 hours ago
@TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
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There are several terms which you can use, depending on the context of writing (or speaking).
A very simple one is "the starch". It is mostly used in the context of meal planning, such as "What starch are we going to serve tonight" or "When planning a vegetarian meal, it is best to first decide on the starch and then select sides that complement it".
"Grains" or, mostly interchangeably, "cereals" is what academic specialists for nutrition and diets use in their jargon. If you read a textbook on nutrition, that's where you will find breads, etc. There, the context makes it clear that the word doesn't mean simply uncooked kernels. The nonacademic literature on dieting is more likely to use "carbs" - see Chris H's answer for more detail on that usage.
In legal language, for example rules and regulations about food product labelling, or import and export regulations, you will frequently find phrases like "grain products".
Since none of these terms is unambiguous, outside of these genres of writing you will probably have to go for something more descriptive, for example "foods made from grains" in a colloquial conversation.
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It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
– J...
yesterday
At one in-house cafeteria at a place I worked, they would always have "starch" on the menu. It was technically correct, although not very appealing sounding! I would much rather have had the specific item (rice, fried potatoes) listed.
– Jennifer
yesterday
@Carl: That may or may not be a problem. It seems to be cultural whether beans and potatoes are considered vegetables.
– MSalters
16 hours ago
@MSalters that has nothing to with anything
– Carl
10 hours ago
@Carl: Let me make it more explicit for you: in some cultures, starches and vegetables are seen as non-overlapping groups, with beans and potatoes members of the vegetable group. So your comment that starches include beans and potatoes is not universally shared.
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A broader category, including things like potatoes, would be carbs (carbohydrates). This is a common category when considering feeding for exercise, and tends to mean starchy foods. It's not a perfect term as "carbs" strictly includes sugars, but the carb component of a meal is the (usually fairly plain) bulk accompaniment to the tasty bits.
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Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
@rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
– Chris H
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BTW I was part way through answering before realising we were at Cooking, and not English
– Chris H
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I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
– Douglas Held
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complex carbohydrates would exclude sugars
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Starch
I've heard it called the Rule of Three - protein, starch, vegetable.
Doesn't this include potatoes?
– Darren
13 hours ago
@Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
– David Richerby
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Since all of those, specifically (even the bread) are derived from cereal grains, they are generally referred to as "grains."
Any food made from wheat, rice, oats, cornmeal, barley or another cereal grain is a grain product. Bread, pasta, oatmeal, breakfast cereals, tortillas, and grits are examples of grain products.
Grains are divided into 2 subgroups, Whole Grains and Refined Grains. Whole grains contain the entire grain kernel ― the bran, germ, and endosperm. Examples of whole grains include whole-wheat flour, bulgur (cracked wheat), oatmeal, whole cornmeal, and brown rice. Refined grains have been milled, a process that removes the bran and germ. This is done to give grains a finer texture and improve their shelf life, but it also removes dietary fiber, iron, and many B vitamins. Some examples of refined grain products are white flour, de-germed cornmeal, white bread, and white rice.
US Department of Agriculture: What Foods Are In the Grains Group?
"Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
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The first thing that came to my mind is that these are "staple foods." In other words, and especially for what you specifically mention, these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people.
Of course, they're also starches, carbs, sugars, etc.
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I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
– rumtscho♦
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Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
– Douglas Held
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@DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
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The term "grains" is commonly used to referred to the 'processed' food as well as the 'unprocessed thing'. People often refer to 'eating grains', and they very rarely mean the unprocessed seeds.
I've also seen 'grain foods' used where there might be confusion.
+1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
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They are collectively called starches.
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There are several terms which you can use, depending on the context of writing (or speaking).
A very simple one is "the starch". It is mostly used in the context of meal planning, such as "What starch are we going to serve tonight" or "When planning a vegetarian meal, it is best to first decide on the starch and then select sides that complement it".
"Grains" or, mostly interchangeably, "cereals" is what academic specialists for nutrition and diets use in their jargon. If you read a textbook on nutrition, that's where you will find breads, etc. There, the context makes it clear that the word doesn't mean simply uncooked kernels. The nonacademic literature on dieting is more likely to use "carbs" - see Chris H's answer for more detail on that usage.
In legal language, for example rules and regulations about food product labelling, or import and export regulations, you will frequently find phrases like "grain products".
Since none of these terms is unambiguous, outside of these genres of writing you will probably have to go for something more descriptive, for example "foods made from grains" in a colloquial conversation.
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It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
– J...
yesterday
At one in-house cafeteria at a place I worked, they would always have "starch" on the menu. It was technically correct, although not very appealing sounding! I would much rather have had the specific item (rice, fried potatoes) listed.
– Jennifer
yesterday
@Carl: That may or may not be a problem. It seems to be cultural whether beans and potatoes are considered vegetables.
– MSalters
16 hours ago
@MSalters that has nothing to with anything
– Carl
10 hours ago
@Carl: Let me make it more explicit for you: in some cultures, starches and vegetables are seen as non-overlapping groups, with beans and potatoes members of the vegetable group. So your comment that starches include beans and potatoes is not universally shared.
– MSalters
8 hours ago
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There are several terms which you can use, depending on the context of writing (or speaking).
A very simple one is "the starch". It is mostly used in the context of meal planning, such as "What starch are we going to serve tonight" or "When planning a vegetarian meal, it is best to first decide on the starch and then select sides that complement it".
"Grains" or, mostly interchangeably, "cereals" is what academic specialists for nutrition and diets use in their jargon. If you read a textbook on nutrition, that's where you will find breads, etc. There, the context makes it clear that the word doesn't mean simply uncooked kernels. The nonacademic literature on dieting is more likely to use "carbs" - see Chris H's answer for more detail on that usage.
In legal language, for example rules and regulations about food product labelling, or import and export regulations, you will frequently find phrases like "grain products".
Since none of these terms is unambiguous, outside of these genres of writing you will probably have to go for something more descriptive, for example "foods made from grains" in a colloquial conversation.
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It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
– J...
yesterday
At one in-house cafeteria at a place I worked, they would always have "starch" on the menu. It was technically correct, although not very appealing sounding! I would much rather have had the specific item (rice, fried potatoes) listed.
– Jennifer
yesterday
@Carl: That may or may not be a problem. It seems to be cultural whether beans and potatoes are considered vegetables.
– MSalters
16 hours ago
@MSalters that has nothing to with anything
– Carl
10 hours ago
@Carl: Let me make it more explicit for you: in some cultures, starches and vegetables are seen as non-overlapping groups, with beans and potatoes members of the vegetable group. So your comment that starches include beans and potatoes is not universally shared.
– MSalters
8 hours ago
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There are several terms which you can use, depending on the context of writing (or speaking).
A very simple one is "the starch". It is mostly used in the context of meal planning, such as "What starch are we going to serve tonight" or "When planning a vegetarian meal, it is best to first decide on the starch and then select sides that complement it".
"Grains" or, mostly interchangeably, "cereals" is what academic specialists for nutrition and diets use in their jargon. If you read a textbook on nutrition, that's where you will find breads, etc. There, the context makes it clear that the word doesn't mean simply uncooked kernels. The nonacademic literature on dieting is more likely to use "carbs" - see Chris H's answer for more detail on that usage.
In legal language, for example rules and regulations about food product labelling, or import and export regulations, you will frequently find phrases like "grain products".
Since none of these terms is unambiguous, outside of these genres of writing you will probably have to go for something more descriptive, for example "foods made from grains" in a colloquial conversation.
There are several terms which you can use, depending on the context of writing (or speaking).
A very simple one is "the starch". It is mostly used in the context of meal planning, such as "What starch are we going to serve tonight" or "When planning a vegetarian meal, it is best to first decide on the starch and then select sides that complement it".
"Grains" or, mostly interchangeably, "cereals" is what academic specialists for nutrition and diets use in their jargon. If you read a textbook on nutrition, that's where you will find breads, etc. There, the context makes it clear that the word doesn't mean simply uncooked kernels. The nonacademic literature on dieting is more likely to use "carbs" - see Chris H's answer for more detail on that usage.
In legal language, for example rules and regulations about food product labelling, or import and export regulations, you will frequently find phrases like "grain products".
Since none of these terms is unambiguous, outside of these genres of writing you will probably have to go for something more descriptive, for example "foods made from grains" in a colloquial conversation.
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It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
– J...
yesterday
At one in-house cafeteria at a place I worked, they would always have "starch" on the menu. It was technically correct, although not very appealing sounding! I would much rather have had the specific item (rice, fried potatoes) listed.
– Jennifer
yesterday
@Carl: That may or may not be a problem. It seems to be cultural whether beans and potatoes are considered vegetables.
– MSalters
16 hours ago
@MSalters that has nothing to with anything
– Carl
10 hours ago
@Carl: Let me make it more explicit for you: in some cultures, starches and vegetables are seen as non-overlapping groups, with beans and potatoes members of the vegetable group. So your comment that starches include beans and potatoes is not universally shared.
– MSalters
8 hours ago
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It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
– J...
yesterday
At one in-house cafeteria at a place I worked, they would always have "starch" on the menu. It was technically correct, although not very appealing sounding! I would much rather have had the specific item (rice, fried potatoes) listed.
– Jennifer
yesterday
@Carl: That may or may not be a problem. It seems to be cultural whether beans and potatoes are considered vegetables.
– MSalters
16 hours ago
@MSalters that has nothing to with anything
– Carl
10 hours ago
@Carl: Let me make it more explicit for you: in some cultures, starches and vegetables are seen as non-overlapping groups, with beans and potatoes members of the vegetable group. So your comment that starches include beans and potatoes is not universally shared.
– MSalters
8 hours ago
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It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
– J...
yesterday
It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
– J...
yesterday
At one in-house cafeteria at a place I worked, they would always have "starch" on the menu. It was technically correct, although not very appealing sounding! I would much rather have had the specific item (rice, fried potatoes) listed.
– Jennifer
yesterday
At one in-house cafeteria at a place I worked, they would always have "starch" on the menu. It was technically correct, although not very appealing sounding! I would much rather have had the specific item (rice, fried potatoes) listed.
– Jennifer
yesterday
@Carl: That may or may not be a problem. It seems to be cultural whether beans and potatoes are considered vegetables.
– MSalters
16 hours ago
@Carl: That may or may not be a problem. It seems to be cultural whether beans and potatoes are considered vegetables.
– MSalters
16 hours ago
@MSalters that has nothing to with anything
– Carl
10 hours ago
@MSalters that has nothing to with anything
– Carl
10 hours ago
@Carl: Let me make it more explicit for you: in some cultures, starches and vegetables are seen as non-overlapping groups, with beans and potatoes members of the vegetable group. So your comment that starches include beans and potatoes is not universally shared.
– MSalters
8 hours ago
@Carl: Let me make it more explicit for you: in some cultures, starches and vegetables are seen as non-overlapping groups, with beans and potatoes members of the vegetable group. So your comment that starches include beans and potatoes is not universally shared.
– MSalters
8 hours ago
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A broader category, including things like potatoes, would be carbs (carbohydrates). This is a common category when considering feeding for exercise, and tends to mean starchy foods. It's not a perfect term as "carbs" strictly includes sugars, but the carb component of a meal is the (usually fairly plain) bulk accompaniment to the tasty bits.
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Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
@rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
– Chris H
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BTW I was part way through answering before realising we were at Cooking, and not English
– Chris H
yesterday
I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
– Douglas Held
yesterday
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complex carbohydrates would exclude sugars
– jk.
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A broader category, including things like potatoes, would be carbs (carbohydrates). This is a common category when considering feeding for exercise, and tends to mean starchy foods. It's not a perfect term as "carbs" strictly includes sugars, but the carb component of a meal is the (usually fairly plain) bulk accompaniment to the tasty bits.
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Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
@rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
– Chris H
yesterday
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BTW I was part way through answering before realising we were at Cooking, and not English
– Chris H
yesterday
I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
– Douglas Held
yesterday
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complex carbohydrates would exclude sugars
– jk.
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up vote
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A broader category, including things like potatoes, would be carbs (carbohydrates). This is a common category when considering feeding for exercise, and tends to mean starchy foods. It's not a perfect term as "carbs" strictly includes sugars, but the carb component of a meal is the (usually fairly plain) bulk accompaniment to the tasty bits.
A broader category, including things like potatoes, would be carbs (carbohydrates). This is a common category when considering feeding for exercise, and tends to mean starchy foods. It's not a perfect term as "carbs" strictly includes sugars, but the carb component of a meal is the (usually fairly plain) bulk accompaniment to the tasty bits.
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Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
@rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
– Chris H
yesterday
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BTW I was part way through answering before realising we were at Cooking, and not English
– Chris H
yesterday
I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
– Douglas Held
yesterday
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complex carbohydrates would exclude sugars
– jk.
10 hours ago
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Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
@rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
– Chris H
yesterday
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BTW I was part way through answering before realising we were at Cooking, and not English
– Chris H
yesterday
I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
– Douglas Held
yesterday
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complex carbohydrates would exclude sugars
– jk.
10 hours ago
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Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
@rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
– Chris H
yesterday
@rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
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BTW I was part way through answering before realising we were at Cooking, and not English
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BTW I was part way through answering before realising we were at Cooking, and not English
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I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
– Douglas Held
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I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
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complex carbohydrates would exclude sugars
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complex carbohydrates would exclude sugars
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I've heard it called the Rule of Three - protein, starch, vegetable.
Doesn't this include potatoes?
– Darren
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@Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
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I've heard it called the Rule of Three - protein, starch, vegetable.
Doesn't this include potatoes?
– Darren
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@Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
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I've heard it called the Rule of Three - protein, starch, vegetable.
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I've heard it called the Rule of Three - protein, starch, vegetable.
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Doesn't this include potatoes?
– Darren
13 hours ago
@Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
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Doesn't this include potatoes?
– Darren
13 hours ago
@Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
– David Richerby
3 hours ago
Doesn't this include potatoes?
– Darren
13 hours ago
Doesn't this include potatoes?
– Darren
13 hours ago
@Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
– David Richerby
3 hours ago
@Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
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Since all of those, specifically (even the bread) are derived from cereal grains, they are generally referred to as "grains."
Any food made from wheat, rice, oats, cornmeal, barley or another cereal grain is a grain product. Bread, pasta, oatmeal, breakfast cereals, tortillas, and grits are examples of grain products.
Grains are divided into 2 subgroups, Whole Grains and Refined Grains. Whole grains contain the entire grain kernel ― the bran, germ, and endosperm. Examples of whole grains include whole-wheat flour, bulgur (cracked wheat), oatmeal, whole cornmeal, and brown rice. Refined grains have been milled, a process that removes the bran and germ. This is done to give grains a finer texture and improve their shelf life, but it also removes dietary fiber, iron, and many B vitamins. Some examples of refined grain products are white flour, de-germed cornmeal, white bread, and white rice.
US Department of Agriculture: What Foods Are In the Grains Group?
"Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
– Darren
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Since all of those, specifically (even the bread) are derived from cereal grains, they are generally referred to as "grains."
Any food made from wheat, rice, oats, cornmeal, barley or another cereal grain is a grain product. Bread, pasta, oatmeal, breakfast cereals, tortillas, and grits are examples of grain products.
Grains are divided into 2 subgroups, Whole Grains and Refined Grains. Whole grains contain the entire grain kernel ― the bran, germ, and endosperm. Examples of whole grains include whole-wheat flour, bulgur (cracked wheat), oatmeal, whole cornmeal, and brown rice. Refined grains have been milled, a process that removes the bran and germ. This is done to give grains a finer texture and improve their shelf life, but it also removes dietary fiber, iron, and many B vitamins. Some examples of refined grain products are white flour, de-germed cornmeal, white bread, and white rice.
US Department of Agriculture: What Foods Are In the Grains Group?
"Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
– Darren
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Since all of those, specifically (even the bread) are derived from cereal grains, they are generally referred to as "grains."
Any food made from wheat, rice, oats, cornmeal, barley or another cereal grain is a grain product. Bread, pasta, oatmeal, breakfast cereals, tortillas, and grits are examples of grain products.
Grains are divided into 2 subgroups, Whole Grains and Refined Grains. Whole grains contain the entire grain kernel ― the bran, germ, and endosperm. Examples of whole grains include whole-wheat flour, bulgur (cracked wheat), oatmeal, whole cornmeal, and brown rice. Refined grains have been milled, a process that removes the bran and germ. This is done to give grains a finer texture and improve their shelf life, but it also removes dietary fiber, iron, and many B vitamins. Some examples of refined grain products are white flour, de-germed cornmeal, white bread, and white rice.
US Department of Agriculture: What Foods Are In the Grains Group?
Since all of those, specifically (even the bread) are derived from cereal grains, they are generally referred to as "grains."
Any food made from wheat, rice, oats, cornmeal, barley or another cereal grain is a grain product. Bread, pasta, oatmeal, breakfast cereals, tortillas, and grits are examples of grain products.
Grains are divided into 2 subgroups, Whole Grains and Refined Grains. Whole grains contain the entire grain kernel ― the bran, germ, and endosperm. Examples of whole grains include whole-wheat flour, bulgur (cracked wheat), oatmeal, whole cornmeal, and brown rice. Refined grains have been milled, a process that removes the bran and germ. This is done to give grains a finer texture and improve their shelf life, but it also removes dietary fiber, iron, and many B vitamins. Some examples of refined grain products are white flour, de-germed cornmeal, white bread, and white rice.
US Department of Agriculture: What Foods Are In the Grains Group?
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"Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
– Darren
13 hours ago
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"Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
– Darren
13 hours ago
"Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
– Darren
13 hours ago
"Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
– Darren
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The first thing that came to my mind is that these are "staple foods." In other words, and especially for what you specifically mention, these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people.
Of course, they're also starches, carbs, sugars, etc.
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I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
– Douglas Held
yesterday
@DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
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The first thing that came to my mind is that these are "staple foods." In other words, and especially for what you specifically mention, these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people.
Of course, they're also starches, carbs, sugars, etc.
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I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
– Douglas Held
yesterday
@DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
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The first thing that came to my mind is that these are "staple foods." In other words, and especially for what you specifically mention, these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people.
Of course, they're also starches, carbs, sugars, etc.
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The first thing that came to my mind is that these are "staple foods." In other words, and especially for what you specifically mention, these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people.
Of course, they're also starches, carbs, sugars, etc.
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I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
– Douglas Held
yesterday
@DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
– joe_hill
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I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
– Douglas Held
yesterday
@DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
– joe_hill
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I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
– rumtscho♦
yesterday
Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
– Douglas Held
yesterday
Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
– Douglas Held
yesterday
@DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
– joe_hill
2 hours ago
@DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
– joe_hill
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The term "grains" is commonly used to referred to the 'processed' food as well as the 'unprocessed thing'. People often refer to 'eating grains', and they very rarely mean the unprocessed seeds.
I've also seen 'grain foods' used where there might be confusion.
+1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
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The term "grains" is commonly used to referred to the 'processed' food as well as the 'unprocessed thing'. People often refer to 'eating grains', and they very rarely mean the unprocessed seeds.
I've also seen 'grain foods' used where there might be confusion.
+1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
– Erica
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The term "grains" is commonly used to referred to the 'processed' food as well as the 'unprocessed thing'. People often refer to 'eating grains', and they very rarely mean the unprocessed seeds.
I've also seen 'grain foods' used where there might be confusion.
The term "grains" is commonly used to referred to the 'processed' food as well as the 'unprocessed thing'. People often refer to 'eating grains', and they very rarely mean the unprocessed seeds.
I've also seen 'grain foods' used where there might be confusion.
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+1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
– Erica
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+1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
– Erica
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+1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
– Erica
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+1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
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They are collectively called starches.
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They are collectively called starches.
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They are collectively called starches.
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Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
– Tanner Swett
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@TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
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