Suppose $limlimits_{n rightarrow infty } n^2 a_n =1$, then $ sumlimits _{n=1} ^{infty} a_n$ is convergent? Or...
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Suppose $lim_{n rightarrow infty } n^2 a_n =1$ then $ sum _{n=1} ^{infty} a_n$ is convergent or divergent?
We use the definition of the limit, then for $varepsilon =1$ there must exist an $n_0geq n$ such that $$ |n^2 a_n -1|<1$$ so we can say that:
$$ 0 < n^2 a_n < 2 $$
We divide by:
$$ 0 < a_n < frac{2}{n^2} $$
We now know if we take the infinite sum we get:
$$ 0 < sum _{n=1} ^{infty} a_n < sum _{n=1} ^{infty} frac{2}{n^2} $$
We know that the right side converges, so the sum is bounded, but how would I prove that is converges? Or can we find a counterexample that diverges, bur stays within these bounds.
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Suppose $lim_{n rightarrow infty } n^2 a_n =1$ then $ sum _{n=1} ^{infty} a_n$ is convergent or divergent?
We use the definition of the limit, then for $varepsilon =1$ there must exist an $n_0geq n$ such that $$ |n^2 a_n -1|<1$$ so we can say that:
$$ 0 < n^2 a_n < 2 $$
We divide by:
$$ 0 < a_n < frac{2}{n^2} $$
We now know if we take the infinite sum we get:
$$ 0 < sum _{n=1} ^{infty} a_n < sum _{n=1} ^{infty} frac{2}{n^2} $$
We know that the right side converges, so the sum is bounded, but how would I prove that is converges? Or can we find a counterexample that diverges, bur stays within these bounds.
real-analysis sequences-and-series
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you argument is correct
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– Guy Fsone
Dec 1 '18 at 14:52
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note that $a_nge 0$, hence the series converges, that is, the sequence defined by $s_n:=sum_{k=0}^na_k$ is increasing and bounded, now apply Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem
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– Masacroso
Dec 1 '18 at 14:54
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@Masacroso The sign of the terms $a_n$ is offtopic and not needed to conclude: if $|a_n|leqslant c/n^2$ then $sum a_n$ converges.
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– Did
Dec 1 '18 at 15:09
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Of course, it is bounded AND increasing, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:11
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@Masacroso Why not give to the OP the proper tools they are lacking, from the onset, rather than letting them get only a fugitive glimpse of the picture? Anyway, as regards the case $b_n=(-1)^n$, your comment is misleading since then, the series $sum b_n$ diverges hence one should not write things like $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$. (Actually, rereading your comment, I wonder if you are aware of the difference of nature between the series $sum b_n$, which always exists, and the number $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$, which may or may not exist...)
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– Did
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Suppose $lim_{n rightarrow infty } n^2 a_n =1$ then $ sum _{n=1} ^{infty} a_n$ is convergent or divergent?
We use the definition of the limit, then for $varepsilon =1$ there must exist an $n_0geq n$ such that $$ |n^2 a_n -1|<1$$ so we can say that:
$$ 0 < n^2 a_n < 2 $$
We divide by:
$$ 0 < a_n < frac{2}{n^2} $$
We now know if we take the infinite sum we get:
$$ 0 < sum _{n=1} ^{infty} a_n < sum _{n=1} ^{infty} frac{2}{n^2} $$
We know that the right side converges, so the sum is bounded, but how would I prove that is converges? Or can we find a counterexample that diverges, bur stays within these bounds.
real-analysis sequences-and-series
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Suppose $lim_{n rightarrow infty } n^2 a_n =1$ then $ sum _{n=1} ^{infty} a_n$ is convergent or divergent?
We use the definition of the limit, then for $varepsilon =1$ there must exist an $n_0geq n$ such that $$ |n^2 a_n -1|<1$$ so we can say that:
$$ 0 < n^2 a_n < 2 $$
We divide by:
$$ 0 < a_n < frac{2}{n^2} $$
We now know if we take the infinite sum we get:
$$ 0 < sum _{n=1} ^{infty} a_n < sum _{n=1} ^{infty} frac{2}{n^2} $$
We know that the right side converges, so the sum is bounded, but how would I prove that is converges? Or can we find a counterexample that diverges, bur stays within these bounds.
real-analysis sequences-and-series
real-analysis sequences-and-series
edited Dec 1 '18 at 15:12
Wesley Strik
asked Dec 1 '18 at 14:47
Wesley StrikWesley Strik
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you argument is correct
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– Guy Fsone
Dec 1 '18 at 14:52
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note that $a_nge 0$, hence the series converges, that is, the sequence defined by $s_n:=sum_{k=0}^na_k$ is increasing and bounded, now apply Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem
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– Masacroso
Dec 1 '18 at 14:54
1
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@Masacroso The sign of the terms $a_n$ is offtopic and not needed to conclude: if $|a_n|leqslant c/n^2$ then $sum a_n$ converges.
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– Did
Dec 1 '18 at 15:09
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Of course, it is bounded AND increasing, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:11
1
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@Masacroso Why not give to the OP the proper tools they are lacking, from the onset, rather than letting them get only a fugitive glimpse of the picture? Anyway, as regards the case $b_n=(-1)^n$, your comment is misleading since then, the series $sum b_n$ diverges hence one should not write things like $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$. (Actually, rereading your comment, I wonder if you are aware of the difference of nature between the series $sum b_n$, which always exists, and the number $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$, which may or may not exist...)
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– Did
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you argument is correct
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– Guy Fsone
Dec 1 '18 at 14:52
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note that $a_nge 0$, hence the series converges, that is, the sequence defined by $s_n:=sum_{k=0}^na_k$ is increasing and bounded, now apply Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem
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– Masacroso
Dec 1 '18 at 14:54
1
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@Masacroso The sign of the terms $a_n$ is offtopic and not needed to conclude: if $|a_n|leqslant c/n^2$ then $sum a_n$ converges.
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– Did
Dec 1 '18 at 15:09
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Of course, it is bounded AND increasing, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:11
1
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@Masacroso Why not give to the OP the proper tools they are lacking, from the onset, rather than letting them get only a fugitive glimpse of the picture? Anyway, as regards the case $b_n=(-1)^n$, your comment is misleading since then, the series $sum b_n$ diverges hence one should not write things like $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$. (Actually, rereading your comment, I wonder if you are aware of the difference of nature between the series $sum b_n$, which always exists, and the number $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$, which may or may not exist...)
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– Did
Dec 1 '18 at 15:31
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you argument is correct
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– Guy Fsone
Dec 1 '18 at 14:52
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you argument is correct
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– Guy Fsone
Dec 1 '18 at 14:52
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1
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note that $a_nge 0$, hence the series converges, that is, the sequence defined by $s_n:=sum_{k=0}^na_k$ is increasing and bounded, now apply Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem
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– Masacroso
Dec 1 '18 at 14:54
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note that $a_nge 0$, hence the series converges, that is, the sequence defined by $s_n:=sum_{k=0}^na_k$ is increasing and bounded, now apply Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem
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– Masacroso
Dec 1 '18 at 14:54
1
1
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@Masacroso The sign of the terms $a_n$ is offtopic and not needed to conclude: if $|a_n|leqslant c/n^2$ then $sum a_n$ converges.
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– Did
Dec 1 '18 at 15:09
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@Masacroso The sign of the terms $a_n$ is offtopic and not needed to conclude: if $|a_n|leqslant c/n^2$ then $sum a_n$ converges.
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– Did
Dec 1 '18 at 15:09
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Of course, it is bounded AND increasing, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:11
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Of course, it is bounded AND increasing, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:11
1
1
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@Masacroso Why not give to the OP the proper tools they are lacking, from the onset, rather than letting them get only a fugitive glimpse of the picture? Anyway, as regards the case $b_n=(-1)^n$, your comment is misleading since then, the series $sum b_n$ diverges hence one should not write things like $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$. (Actually, rereading your comment, I wonder if you are aware of the difference of nature between the series $sum b_n$, which always exists, and the number $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$, which may or may not exist...)
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– Did
Dec 1 '18 at 15:31
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@Masacroso Why not give to the OP the proper tools they are lacking, from the onset, rather than letting them get only a fugitive glimpse of the picture? Anyway, as regards the case $b_n=(-1)^n$, your comment is misleading since then, the series $sum b_n$ diverges hence one should not write things like $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$. (Actually, rereading your comment, I wonder if you are aware of the difference of nature between the series $sum b_n$, which always exists, and the number $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$, which may or may not exist...)
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Option.
$lim_{n rightarrow infty}n^2a_n=1.$
This Implies for $n in mathbb{Z^+}$ :
$n^2|a_n| lt M$, positive real number.
$|a_n| lt M/n^2.$
By comparison test $sum |a_n|$ is convergent,
hence $sum a_n$ is convergent.
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A series converges iff its remainder term $sumlimits_N^infty a_n rightarrow 0$ as $Nrightarrow infty$. Your argument shows that you can, for large enough $N$, bound $|sumlimits_N^infty a_n|$ by $sumlimits_N^infty frac{1}{n^2}$. The latter term approaches zero as $Nrightarrow infty$, since $sum frac{1}{n^2}$ converges.
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The hypothesis means first that, if $n$ is large enough, $a_n>0$, and also that $a_n$ is asymptotically equivalent to $dfrac1{n^2}$.
Now two series with (eventually positive) equivalent terms both converge or both diverge.
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It is increasing and bounded, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
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Of course, but equivalence gives a faster proof. Bondedness is implicit in the definition of equivalence.
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– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 15:16
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Your argument is correct, more simply we can refer directly to limit comparison test with $$sum frac1{n^2}$$
indeed
$$frac{a_n}{ frac1{n^2}}=n^2a_nto 1$$
therefore $sum a_n$ converges.
It is important to recognize that since, more in general, when we solve a problem we don't need everytime to prove all the results that we have already proved in a general way.
Therefore if you are not requested to use esplicitely the $epsilon-delta$ definition a solution by limit comparison test is fine.
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The test only applies to positive series, so a small step is needed before applying it.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
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@AndresE.Caicedo yes of course we can assume $a_n$ strictly positive for n sufficiently large.
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– gimusi
Dec 1 '18 at 15:20
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Option.
$lim_{n rightarrow infty}n^2a_n=1.$
This Implies for $n in mathbb{Z^+}$ :
$n^2|a_n| lt M$, positive real number.
$|a_n| lt M/n^2.$
By comparison test $sum |a_n|$ is convergent,
hence $sum a_n$ is convergent.
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Option.
$lim_{n rightarrow infty}n^2a_n=1.$
This Implies for $n in mathbb{Z^+}$ :
$n^2|a_n| lt M$, positive real number.
$|a_n| lt M/n^2.$
By comparison test $sum |a_n|$ is convergent,
hence $sum a_n$ is convergent.
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Option.
$lim_{n rightarrow infty}n^2a_n=1.$
This Implies for $n in mathbb{Z^+}$ :
$n^2|a_n| lt M$, positive real number.
$|a_n| lt M/n^2.$
By comparison test $sum |a_n|$ is convergent,
hence $sum a_n$ is convergent.
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Option.
$lim_{n rightarrow infty}n^2a_n=1.$
This Implies for $n in mathbb{Z^+}$ :
$n^2|a_n| lt M$, positive real number.
$|a_n| lt M/n^2.$
By comparison test $sum |a_n|$ is convergent,
hence $sum a_n$ is convergent.
answered Dec 1 '18 at 15:49
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A series converges iff its remainder term $sumlimits_N^infty a_n rightarrow 0$ as $Nrightarrow infty$. Your argument shows that you can, for large enough $N$, bound $|sumlimits_N^infty a_n|$ by $sumlimits_N^infty frac{1}{n^2}$. The latter term approaches zero as $Nrightarrow infty$, since $sum frac{1}{n^2}$ converges.
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A series converges iff its remainder term $sumlimits_N^infty a_n rightarrow 0$ as $Nrightarrow infty$. Your argument shows that you can, for large enough $N$, bound $|sumlimits_N^infty a_n|$ by $sumlimits_N^infty frac{1}{n^2}$. The latter term approaches zero as $Nrightarrow infty$, since $sum frac{1}{n^2}$ converges.
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A series converges iff its remainder term $sumlimits_N^infty a_n rightarrow 0$ as $Nrightarrow infty$. Your argument shows that you can, for large enough $N$, bound $|sumlimits_N^infty a_n|$ by $sumlimits_N^infty frac{1}{n^2}$. The latter term approaches zero as $Nrightarrow infty$, since $sum frac{1}{n^2}$ converges.
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A series converges iff its remainder term $sumlimits_N^infty a_n rightarrow 0$ as $Nrightarrow infty$. Your argument shows that you can, for large enough $N$, bound $|sumlimits_N^infty a_n|$ by $sumlimits_N^infty frac{1}{n^2}$. The latter term approaches zero as $Nrightarrow infty$, since $sum frac{1}{n^2}$ converges.
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The hypothesis means first that, if $n$ is large enough, $a_n>0$, and also that $a_n$ is asymptotically equivalent to $dfrac1{n^2}$.
Now two series with (eventually positive) equivalent terms both converge or both diverge.
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It is increasing and bounded, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
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Of course, but equivalence gives a faster proof. Bondedness is implicit in the definition of equivalence.
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– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 15:16
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The hypothesis means first that, if $n$ is large enough, $a_n>0$, and also that $a_n$ is asymptotically equivalent to $dfrac1{n^2}$.
Now two series with (eventually positive) equivalent terms both converge or both diverge.
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It is increasing and bounded, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
1
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Of course, but equivalence gives a faster proof. Bondedness is implicit in the definition of equivalence.
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– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 15:16
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The hypothesis means first that, if $n$ is large enough, $a_n>0$, and also that $a_n$ is asymptotically equivalent to $dfrac1{n^2}$.
Now two series with (eventually positive) equivalent terms both converge or both diverge.
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The hypothesis means first that, if $n$ is large enough, $a_n>0$, and also that $a_n$ is asymptotically equivalent to $dfrac1{n^2}$.
Now two series with (eventually positive) equivalent terms both converge or both diverge.
answered Dec 1 '18 at 15:07
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It is increasing and bounded, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
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Of course, but equivalence gives a faster proof. Bondedness is implicit in the definition of equivalence.
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– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 15:16
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It is increasing and bounded, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
1
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Of course, but equivalence gives a faster proof. Bondedness is implicit in the definition of equivalence.
$endgroup$
– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 15:16
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It is increasing and bounded, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
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It is increasing and bounded, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
1
1
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Of course, but equivalence gives a faster proof. Bondedness is implicit in the definition of equivalence.
$endgroup$
– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 15:16
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Of course, but equivalence gives a faster proof. Bondedness is implicit in the definition of equivalence.
$endgroup$
– Bernard
Dec 1 '18 at 15:16
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Your argument is correct, more simply we can refer directly to limit comparison test with $$sum frac1{n^2}$$
indeed
$$frac{a_n}{ frac1{n^2}}=n^2a_nto 1$$
therefore $sum a_n$ converges.
It is important to recognize that since, more in general, when we solve a problem we don't need everytime to prove all the results that we have already proved in a general way.
Therefore if you are not requested to use esplicitely the $epsilon-delta$ definition a solution by limit comparison test is fine.
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1
$begingroup$
The test only applies to positive series, so a small step is needed before applying it.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
1
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@AndresE.Caicedo yes of course we can assume $a_n$ strictly positive for n sufficiently large.
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– gimusi
Dec 1 '18 at 15:20
add a comment |
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Your argument is correct, more simply we can refer directly to limit comparison test with $$sum frac1{n^2}$$
indeed
$$frac{a_n}{ frac1{n^2}}=n^2a_nto 1$$
therefore $sum a_n$ converges.
It is important to recognize that since, more in general, when we solve a problem we don't need everytime to prove all the results that we have already proved in a general way.
Therefore if you are not requested to use esplicitely the $epsilon-delta$ definition a solution by limit comparison test is fine.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
The test only applies to positive series, so a small step is needed before applying it.
$endgroup$
– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
1
$begingroup$
@AndresE.Caicedo yes of course we can assume $a_n$ strictly positive for n sufficiently large.
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 1 '18 at 15:20
add a comment |
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Your argument is correct, more simply we can refer directly to limit comparison test with $$sum frac1{n^2}$$
indeed
$$frac{a_n}{ frac1{n^2}}=n^2a_nto 1$$
therefore $sum a_n$ converges.
It is important to recognize that since, more in general, when we solve a problem we don't need everytime to prove all the results that we have already proved in a general way.
Therefore if you are not requested to use esplicitely the $epsilon-delta$ definition a solution by limit comparison test is fine.
$endgroup$
Your argument is correct, more simply we can refer directly to limit comparison test with $$sum frac1{n^2}$$
indeed
$$frac{a_n}{ frac1{n^2}}=n^2a_nto 1$$
therefore $sum a_n$ converges.
It is important to recognize that since, more in general, when we solve a problem we don't need everytime to prove all the results that we have already proved in a general way.
Therefore if you are not requested to use esplicitely the $epsilon-delta$ definition a solution by limit comparison test is fine.
edited Dec 1 '18 at 14:57
answered Dec 1 '18 at 14:49
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The test only applies to positive series, so a small step is needed before applying it.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
1
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@AndresE.Caicedo yes of course we can assume $a_n$ strictly positive for n sufficiently large.
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– gimusi
Dec 1 '18 at 15:20
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1
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The test only applies to positive series, so a small step is needed before applying it.
$endgroup$
– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
1
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@AndresE.Caicedo yes of course we can assume $a_n$ strictly positive for n sufficiently large.
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 1 '18 at 15:20
1
1
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The test only applies to positive series, so a small step is needed before applying it.
$endgroup$
– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
$begingroup$
The test only applies to positive series, so a small step is needed before applying it.
$endgroup$
– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 1 '18 at 15:10
1
1
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@AndresE.Caicedo yes of course we can assume $a_n$ strictly positive for n sufficiently large.
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– gimusi
Dec 1 '18 at 15:20
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@AndresE.Caicedo yes of course we can assume $a_n$ strictly positive for n sufficiently large.
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– gimusi
Dec 1 '18 at 15:20
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you argument is correct
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– Guy Fsone
Dec 1 '18 at 14:52
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note that $a_nge 0$, hence the series converges, that is, the sequence defined by $s_n:=sum_{k=0}^na_k$ is increasing and bounded, now apply Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem
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– Masacroso
Dec 1 '18 at 14:54
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@Masacroso The sign of the terms $a_n$ is offtopic and not needed to conclude: if $|a_n|leqslant c/n^2$ then $sum a_n$ converges.
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– Did
Dec 1 '18 at 15:09
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Of course, it is bounded AND increasing, therefore it converges!
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– Wesley Strik
Dec 1 '18 at 15:11
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@Masacroso Why not give to the OP the proper tools they are lacking, from the onset, rather than letting them get only a fugitive glimpse of the picture? Anyway, as regards the case $b_n=(-1)^n$, your comment is misleading since then, the series $sum b_n$ diverges hence one should not write things like $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$. (Actually, rereading your comment, I wonder if you are aware of the difference of nature between the series $sum b_n$, which always exists, and the number $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty b_n$, which may or may not exist...)
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– Did
Dec 1 '18 at 15:31