Best practices for giving outside developer SSH access?





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N00b here - I'm upgrading my website so that it isn't using a deprecated version of MySql/ PHP. I'm not comfortable enough with the code so I'm using an outside developer.



Due to this being database related I they will need SSH access ... which scares me.



I'm mostly worried about this developer accessing or downloading files that they don't need/I don't want them to.



Are there activity logs when using SSH that shows what files were accessed?



Is there a way to delete the logs?






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    Someone with root access can do basically anything, including covering virtually any tracks they might leave. If you don't have an existing reputable contact (preferably a firm, and preferably in a jurisdiction you can go after in something like small claims court), you may be better off setting up a new server, contracting them to do any development work on the codebase to bring it up to modern PHP (thus controlling what you provide them with), and installing it yourself on the new server. Even there, there's a risk of back-doors.

    – ceejayoz
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    Is your developer expected to do the system upgrade for you? If so they will probably need sysadmin level acces and then they can do anything and everything. But for inspiration see this Q&A of mine: serverfault.com/q/805333/37681

    – HBruijn
    8 hours ago











  • Mysql database can be configured to allow direct remote access without need to provide SSH access. Malicious developer can add backdoor while having any access level though... (Backup is your friend)

    – Anubioz
    8 hours ago













  • @Anubioz If a MySQL (and PHP) upgrade is required, as appears to be the case, mere access to run SQL queries won't be sufficient.

    – ceejayoz
    7 hours ago






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    There are not technical solutions to every problem. The solution to this problem is the NDA.

    – Michael Hampton♦
    1 hour ago


















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N00b here - I'm upgrading my website so that it isn't using a deprecated version of MySql/ PHP. I'm not comfortable enough with the code so I'm using an outside developer.



Due to this being database related I they will need SSH access ... which scares me.



I'm mostly worried about this developer accessing or downloading files that they don't need/I don't want them to.



Are there activity logs when using SSH that shows what files were accessed?



Is there a way to delete the logs?






ssh logging







share|improve this question









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  • 3





    Someone with root access can do basically anything, including covering virtually any tracks they might leave. If you don't have an existing reputable contact (preferably a firm, and preferably in a jurisdiction you can go after in something like small claims court), you may be better off setting up a new server, contracting them to do any development work on the codebase to bring it up to modern PHP (thus controlling what you provide them with), and installing it yourself on the new server. Even there, there's a risk of back-doors.

    – ceejayoz
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    Is your developer expected to do the system upgrade for you? If so they will probably need sysadmin level acces and then they can do anything and everything. But for inspiration see this Q&A of mine: serverfault.com/q/805333/37681

    – HBruijn
    8 hours ago











  • Mysql database can be configured to allow direct remote access without need to provide SSH access. Malicious developer can add backdoor while having any access level though... (Backup is your friend)

    – Anubioz
    8 hours ago













  • @Anubioz If a MySQL (and PHP) upgrade is required, as appears to be the case, mere access to run SQL queries won't be sufficient.

    – ceejayoz
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    There are not technical solutions to every problem. The solution to this problem is the NDA.

    – Michael Hampton♦
    1 hour ago














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N00b here - I'm upgrading my website so that it isn't using a deprecated version of MySql/ PHP. I'm not comfortable enough with the code so I'm using an outside developer.



Due to this being database related I they will need SSH access ... which scares me.



I'm mostly worried about this developer accessing or downloading files that they don't need/I don't want them to.



Are there activity logs when using SSH that shows what files were accessed?



Is there a way to delete the logs?






ssh logging







share|improve this question









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N00b here - I'm upgrading my website so that it isn't using a deprecated version of MySql/ PHP. I'm not comfortable enough with the code so I'm using an outside developer.



Due to this being database related I they will need SSH access ... which scares me.



I'm mostly worried about this developer accessing or downloading files that they don't need/I don't want them to.



Are there activity logs when using SSH that shows what files were accessed?



Is there a way to delete the logs?






ssh logging




ssh logging






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  • 3





    Someone with root access can do basically anything, including covering virtually any tracks they might leave. If you don't have an existing reputable contact (preferably a firm, and preferably in a jurisdiction you can go after in something like small claims court), you may be better off setting up a new server, contracting them to do any development work on the codebase to bring it up to modern PHP (thus controlling what you provide them with), and installing it yourself on the new server. Even there, there's a risk of back-doors.

    – ceejayoz
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    Is your developer expected to do the system upgrade for you? If so they will probably need sysadmin level acces and then they can do anything and everything. But for inspiration see this Q&A of mine: serverfault.com/q/805333/37681

    – HBruijn
    8 hours ago











  • Mysql database can be configured to allow direct remote access without need to provide SSH access. Malicious developer can add backdoor while having any access level though... (Backup is your friend)

    – Anubioz
    8 hours ago













  • @Anubioz If a MySQL (and PHP) upgrade is required, as appears to be the case, mere access to run SQL queries won't be sufficient.

    – ceejayoz
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    There are not technical solutions to every problem. The solution to this problem is the NDA.

    – Michael Hampton♦
    1 hour ago














  • 3





    Someone with root access can do basically anything, including covering virtually any tracks they might leave. If you don't have an existing reputable contact (preferably a firm, and preferably in a jurisdiction you can go after in something like small claims court), you may be better off setting up a new server, contracting them to do any development work on the codebase to bring it up to modern PHP (thus controlling what you provide them with), and installing it yourself on the new server. Even there, there's a risk of back-doors.

    – ceejayoz
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    Is your developer expected to do the system upgrade for you? If so they will probably need sysadmin level acces and then they can do anything and everything. But for inspiration see this Q&A of mine: serverfault.com/q/805333/37681

    – HBruijn
    8 hours ago











  • Mysql database can be configured to allow direct remote access without need to provide SSH access. Malicious developer can add backdoor while having any access level though... (Backup is your friend)

    – Anubioz
    8 hours ago













  • @Anubioz If a MySQL (and PHP) upgrade is required, as appears to be the case, mere access to run SQL queries won't be sufficient.

    – ceejayoz
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    There are not technical solutions to every problem. The solution to this problem is the NDA.

    – Michael Hampton♦
    1 hour ago








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Someone with root access can do basically anything, including covering virtually any tracks they might leave. If you don't have an existing reputable contact (preferably a firm, and preferably in a jurisdiction you can go after in something like small claims court), you may be better off setting up a new server, contracting them to do any development work on the codebase to bring it up to modern PHP (thus controlling what you provide them with), and installing it yourself on the new server. Even there, there's a risk of back-doors.

– ceejayoz
8 hours ago





Someone with root access can do basically anything, including covering virtually any tracks they might leave. If you don't have an existing reputable contact (preferably a firm, and preferably in a jurisdiction you can go after in something like small claims court), you may be better off setting up a new server, contracting them to do any development work on the codebase to bring it up to modern PHP (thus controlling what you provide them with), and installing it yourself on the new server. Even there, there's a risk of back-doors.

– ceejayoz
8 hours ago




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2





Is your developer expected to do the system upgrade for you? If so they will probably need sysadmin level acces and then they can do anything and everything. But for inspiration see this Q&A of mine: serverfault.com/q/805333/37681

– HBruijn
8 hours ago





Is your developer expected to do the system upgrade for you? If so they will probably need sysadmin level acces and then they can do anything and everything. But for inspiration see this Q&A of mine: serverfault.com/q/805333/37681

– HBruijn
8 hours ago













Mysql database can be configured to allow direct remote access without need to provide SSH access. Malicious developer can add backdoor while having any access level though... (Backup is your friend)

– Anubioz
8 hours ago







Mysql database can be configured to allow direct remote access without need to provide SSH access. Malicious developer can add backdoor while having any access level though... (Backup is your friend)

– Anubioz
8 hours ago















@Anubioz If a MySQL (and PHP) upgrade is required, as appears to be the case, mere access to run SQL queries won't be sufficient.

– ceejayoz
7 hours ago





@Anubioz If a MySQL (and PHP) upgrade is required, as appears to be the case, mere access to run SQL queries won't be sufficient.

– ceejayoz
7 hours ago




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There are not technical solutions to every problem. The solution to this problem is the NDA.

– Michael Hampton♦
1 hour ago





There are not technical solutions to every problem. The solution to this problem is the NDA.

– Michael Hampton♦
1 hour ago










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In a password protected area you can install for instance https://www.adminer.org/ or https://www.phpmyadmin.net/ to allow someone access to the database without giving them SSH access, but that won't allow them to upgrade the OS for you.



Almost regardless of how much you trust the developer, make a good backup beforehand of your system, settings and data.






share|improve this answer
























  • Awesome, thanks for the tips! My biggest fear is that there are around 100GB of proprietary/ trade secret documents in one directory that I don't want the developer downloading. Is there a way to temporary move that folder to somewhere they can't access? Realistically the code changes should only take a few hours so I suppose I could just download the entire folder and delete it from the server. Then upload it again after the fact. But is there an easier way than that?

    – Roberto Frink
    8 hours ago











  • Frankly, if you've got 100 GB of trade secrets on an out-of-support PHP server, I'd worry less about a particular developer and more about the rest of the Internet. Taking them off the server ASAP would be a good step either way.

    – ceejayoz
    7 hours ago











  • Thanks! That is a very astute point @ceejayoz

    – Roberto Frink
    7 hours ago





















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No, you're allowing someone you don't trust to have root access to your servers. which means they can install a rat in the system or mess with it. you can log files accessed and permissions by creating an account and pass for the person but since he will need root access he can log in and then start deleting your monitoring system. which leaves you to square one. i suggest hire a firm that has reputation. hiring a single person from a craigslist ad would be asking for trouble.






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  • Thanks! The developer would actually be from the company that made the specific platform I need updating. However, they are located in a different country where legal action would be unlikely which is what worries me most. But I think I am being overly paranoid.

    – Roberto Frink
    7 hours ago













  • my advice is just make a backup copy of the system before access. that way you can restore if there's any issues.

    – user3897632
    6 hours ago












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In a password protected area you can install for instance https://www.adminer.org/ or https://www.phpmyadmin.net/ to allow someone access to the database without giving them SSH access, but that won't allow them to upgrade the OS for you.



Almost regardless of how much you trust the developer, make a good backup beforehand of your system, settings and data.






share|improve this answer
























  • Awesome, thanks for the tips! My biggest fear is that there are around 100GB of proprietary/ trade secret documents in one directory that I don't want the developer downloading. Is there a way to temporary move that folder to somewhere they can't access? Realistically the code changes should only take a few hours so I suppose I could just download the entire folder and delete it from the server. Then upload it again after the fact. But is there an easier way than that?

    – Roberto Frink
    8 hours ago











  • Frankly, if you've got 100 GB of trade secrets on an out-of-support PHP server, I'd worry less about a particular developer and more about the rest of the Internet. Taking them off the server ASAP would be a good step either way.

    – ceejayoz
    7 hours ago











  • Thanks! That is a very astute point @ceejayoz

    – Roberto Frink
    7 hours ago


















4














In a password protected area you can install for instance https://www.adminer.org/ or https://www.phpmyadmin.net/ to allow someone access to the database without giving them SSH access, but that won't allow them to upgrade the OS for you.



Almost regardless of how much you trust the developer, make a good backup beforehand of your system, settings and data.






share|improve this answer
























  • Awesome, thanks for the tips! My biggest fear is that there are around 100GB of proprietary/ trade secret documents in one directory that I don't want the developer downloading. Is there a way to temporary move that folder to somewhere they can't access? Realistically the code changes should only take a few hours so I suppose I could just download the entire folder and delete it from the server. Then upload it again after the fact. But is there an easier way than that?

    – Roberto Frink
    8 hours ago











  • Frankly, if you've got 100 GB of trade secrets on an out-of-support PHP server, I'd worry less about a particular developer and more about the rest of the Internet. Taking them off the server ASAP would be a good step either way.

    – ceejayoz
    7 hours ago











  • Thanks! That is a very astute point @ceejayoz

    – Roberto Frink
    7 hours ago
















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In a password protected area you can install for instance https://www.adminer.org/ or https://www.phpmyadmin.net/ to allow someone access to the database without giving them SSH access, but that won't allow them to upgrade the OS for you.



Almost regardless of how much you trust the developer, make a good backup beforehand of your system, settings and data.






share|improve this answer













In a password protected area you can install for instance https://www.adminer.org/ or https://www.phpmyadmin.net/ to allow someone access to the database without giving them SSH access, but that won't allow them to upgrade the OS for you.



Almost regardless of how much you trust the developer, make a good backup beforehand of your system, settings and data.







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  • Awesome, thanks for the tips! My biggest fear is that there are around 100GB of proprietary/ trade secret documents in one directory that I don't want the developer downloading. Is there a way to temporary move that folder to somewhere they can't access? Realistically the code changes should only take a few hours so I suppose I could just download the entire folder and delete it from the server. Then upload it again after the fact. But is there an easier way than that?

    – Roberto Frink
    8 hours ago











  • Frankly, if you've got 100 GB of trade secrets on an out-of-support PHP server, I'd worry less about a particular developer and more about the rest of the Internet. Taking them off the server ASAP would be a good step either way.

    – ceejayoz
    7 hours ago











  • Thanks! That is a very astute point @ceejayoz

    – Roberto Frink
    7 hours ago





















  • Awesome, thanks for the tips! My biggest fear is that there are around 100GB of proprietary/ trade secret documents in one directory that I don't want the developer downloading. Is there a way to temporary move that folder to somewhere they can't access? Realistically the code changes should only take a few hours so I suppose I could just download the entire folder and delete it from the server. Then upload it again after the fact. But is there an easier way than that?

    – Roberto Frink
    8 hours ago











  • Frankly, if you've got 100 GB of trade secrets on an out-of-support PHP server, I'd worry less about a particular developer and more about the rest of the Internet. Taking them off the server ASAP would be a good step either way.

    – ceejayoz
    7 hours ago











  • Thanks! That is a very astute point @ceejayoz

    – Roberto Frink
    7 hours ago



















Awesome, thanks for the tips! My biggest fear is that there are around 100GB of proprietary/ trade secret documents in one directory that I don't want the developer downloading. Is there a way to temporary move that folder to somewhere they can't access? Realistically the code changes should only take a few hours so I suppose I could just download the entire folder and delete it from the server. Then upload it again after the fact. But is there an easier way than that?

– Roberto Frink
8 hours ago





Awesome, thanks for the tips! My biggest fear is that there are around 100GB of proprietary/ trade secret documents in one directory that I don't want the developer downloading. Is there a way to temporary move that folder to somewhere they can't access? Realistically the code changes should only take a few hours so I suppose I could just download the entire folder and delete it from the server. Then upload it again after the fact. But is there an easier way than that?

– Roberto Frink
8 hours ago













Frankly, if you've got 100 GB of trade secrets on an out-of-support PHP server, I'd worry less about a particular developer and more about the rest of the Internet. Taking them off the server ASAP would be a good step either way.

– ceejayoz
7 hours ago





Frankly, if you've got 100 GB of trade secrets on an out-of-support PHP server, I'd worry less about a particular developer and more about the rest of the Internet. Taking them off the server ASAP would be a good step either way.

– ceejayoz
7 hours ago













Thanks! That is a very astute point @ceejayoz

– Roberto Frink
7 hours ago







Thanks! That is a very astute point @ceejayoz

– Roberto Frink
7 hours ago















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No, you're allowing someone you don't trust to have root access to your servers. which means they can install a rat in the system or mess with it. you can log files accessed and permissions by creating an account and pass for the person but since he will need root access he can log in and then start deleting your monitoring system. which leaves you to square one. i suggest hire a firm that has reputation. hiring a single person from a craigslist ad would be asking for trouble.






share|improve this answer


























  • Thanks! The developer would actually be from the company that made the specific platform I need updating. However, they are located in a different country where legal action would be unlikely which is what worries me most. But I think I am being overly paranoid.

    – Roberto Frink
    7 hours ago













  • my advice is just make a backup copy of the system before access. that way you can restore if there's any issues.

    – user3897632
    6 hours ago
















2














No, you're allowing someone you don't trust to have root access to your servers. which means they can install a rat in the system or mess with it. you can log files accessed and permissions by creating an account and pass for the person but since he will need root access he can log in and then start deleting your monitoring system. which leaves you to square one. i suggest hire a firm that has reputation. hiring a single person from a craigslist ad would be asking for trouble.






share|improve this answer


























  • Thanks! The developer would actually be from the company that made the specific platform I need updating. However, they are located in a different country where legal action would be unlikely which is what worries me most. But I think I am being overly paranoid.

    – Roberto Frink
    7 hours ago













  • my advice is just make a backup copy of the system before access. that way you can restore if there's any issues.

    – user3897632
    6 hours ago














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No, you're allowing someone you don't trust to have root access to your servers. which means they can install a rat in the system or mess with it. you can log files accessed and permissions by creating an account and pass for the person but since he will need root access he can log in and then start deleting your monitoring system. which leaves you to square one. i suggest hire a firm that has reputation. hiring a single person from a craigslist ad would be asking for trouble.






share|improve this answer















No, you're allowing someone you don't trust to have root access to your servers. which means they can install a rat in the system or mess with it. you can log files accessed and permissions by creating an account and pass for the person but since he will need root access he can log in and then start deleting your monitoring system. which leaves you to square one. i suggest hire a firm that has reputation. hiring a single person from a craigslist ad would be asking for trouble.







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  • Thanks! The developer would actually be from the company that made the specific platform I need updating. However, they are located in a different country where legal action would be unlikely which is what worries me most. But I think I am being overly paranoid.

    – Roberto Frink
    7 hours ago













  • my advice is just make a backup copy of the system before access. that way you can restore if there's any issues.

    – user3897632
    6 hours ago



















  • Thanks! The developer would actually be from the company that made the specific platform I need updating. However, they are located in a different country where legal action would be unlikely which is what worries me most. But I think I am being overly paranoid.

    – Roberto Frink
    7 hours ago













  • my advice is just make a backup copy of the system before access. that way you can restore if there's any issues.

    – user3897632
    6 hours ago

















Thanks! The developer would actually be from the company that made the specific platform I need updating. However, they are located in a different country where legal action would be unlikely which is what worries me most. But I think I am being overly paranoid.

– Roberto Frink
7 hours ago







Thanks! The developer would actually be from the company that made the specific platform I need updating. However, they are located in a different country where legal action would be unlikely which is what worries me most. But I think I am being overly paranoid.

– Roberto Frink
7 hours ago















my advice is just make a backup copy of the system before access. that way you can restore if there's any issues.

– user3897632
6 hours ago





my advice is just make a backup copy of the system before access. that way you can restore if there's any issues.

– user3897632
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Verónica Boquete im Trikot der Nationalmannschaft (2013) Personalia Name Verónica Boquete Giadans Geburtstag 9. April 1987 Geburtsort Santiago de Compostela, Spanien Größe 159 cm Position Mittelfeld / Sturm Juniorinnen Jahre Station 2001–2005 Xuventú Aguiño Frauen Jahre Station Spiele (Tore) 1 2005–2008 Prainsa Zaragoza 83 (40) 2008–2010 Espanyol Barcelona 53 (30) 2010 Buffalo Flash 9 0 (9) 2010 Chicago Red Stars 3 0 (1) 2010–2011 Espanyol Barcelona 26 (41) 2011 Philadelphia Independence 13 0 (5) 2011 Energija Woronesch 5 0 (1) 2012–2014 Tyresö FF 39 (14) 2014 Portland Thorns FC 15 0 (4) 2014–2015 1. FFC Frankfurt 23 0 (7) 2015–2016 FC Bayern München 9 0 (0) 2016–2018 Paris Saint-Germain 31 0 (8) 2018 Peking BG Phoenix 2019– Utah Royals FC 0 0 (0) Nationalmannschaft Jahre Auswahl ...
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Ida-Boy-Ed-Garten

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Die Lage des Ida-Boy-Ed-Gartens, rot markiert Der Ida-Boy-Ed-Garten Der Ida-Boy-Ed-Garten, Blick von der Wakenitzmauer durch das Tor in der Stadtmauer Der Ida-Boy-Ed-Garten ist eine Straße der Lübecker Altstadt. Inhaltsverzeichnis 1 Lage 2 Geschichte 3 Literatur 4 Weblinks Lage | Der etwa 90 Meter lange Ida-Boy-Ed-Garten befindet sich an der nördlichen Spitze der Altstadtinsel, vor dem Burgtor. Die in einem Bogen durch eine Grünanlage hangaufwärts führende Straße verbindet die Wakenitzmauer mit der Burgtorbrücke. Geschichte | Der heutige Ida-Boy-Ed-Garten wurde ursprünglich als Verlängerung der Wakenitzmauer angelegt. 1903 wurde in den erhaltenen Teil der mittelalterlichen Stadtmauer, an dem die Wakenitzmauer bei der Einmündung der Kaiserstraße begann, ein Tor mit einem großen Bogen für die Durchführung der Straße und zwei kleineren seitlichen Öffnungen für Fußgänger gebrochen, um für die neu errichteten Wohnhäuser in diesem Bereich ...
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