How can the Lestrange bloodline still exist?
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If we believe the story of Leta Lestrange, her brother Corvus
is actually dead - and so is Leta after her fight with Grindelwald.
No other children of her father were mentioned..
So there is no male heir to carry on the bloodline.
But we know that a few decades later, some Lestranges do exist (mentioned in the HBP) and eventually there are Rodolphus and Rabastan Lestrange.
Any ideas?
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If we believe the story of Leta Lestrange, her brother Corvus
is actually dead - and so is Leta after her fight with Grindelwald.
No other children of her father were mentioned..
So there is no male heir to carry on the bloodline.
But we know that a few decades later, some Lestranges do exist (mentioned in the HBP) and eventually there are Rodolphus and Rabastan Lestrange.
Any ideas?
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No other children of her father were mentioned
- not only that, but the film makes a big deal of him possibly being the last lost heir of the family.
– Rawling
Nov 19 at 18:37
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As others say the Lestrange family could be continued by other branches of the family. If the descendants of a man die out the family can be continued by descendants of that man's brothers, 1st cousins, 2nd cousins, etc. As an extreme example, when William III of the Netherlands died in 1890 the Netherlands was inherited by his daughter Wlhelmina, but the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg was inherited by Adolph, his 17th cousin once removed in the male line. Count Henry II of Nassau, the common ancestor of the 2 branches, died in 1247, 643 years before 1890.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 19 at 18:41
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When Henry III of France died in 1589, the last king of France with surviving descendants in the legitimate male line was Louis IX who died in 1270, eleven generations back. How far back do wizard pedigrees go?
– Anton Sherwood
Nov 20 at 5:40
Well, when a Pureblood loves his cousin very much... On a more serious note - I may have overlooked it, but do we have any confirmation that Corvus Sr is actually dead and unable to father another heir?
– Chronocidal
Nov 20 at 13:24
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If we believe the story of Leta Lestrange, her brother Corvus
is actually dead - and so is Leta after her fight with Grindelwald.
No other children of her father were mentioned..
So there is no male heir to carry on the bloodline.
But we know that a few decades later, some Lestranges do exist (mentioned in the HBP) and eventually there are Rodolphus and Rabastan Lestrange.
Any ideas?
harry-potter fantastic-beasts the-crimes-of-grindelwald
If we believe the story of Leta Lestrange, her brother Corvus
is actually dead - and so is Leta after her fight with Grindelwald.
No other children of her father were mentioned..
So there is no male heir to carry on the bloodline.
But we know that a few decades later, some Lestranges do exist (mentioned in the HBP) and eventually there are Rodolphus and Rabastan Lestrange.
Any ideas?
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No other children of her father were mentioned
- not only that, but the film makes a big deal of him possibly being the last lost heir of the family.
– Rawling
Nov 19 at 18:37
7
As others say the Lestrange family could be continued by other branches of the family. If the descendants of a man die out the family can be continued by descendants of that man's brothers, 1st cousins, 2nd cousins, etc. As an extreme example, when William III of the Netherlands died in 1890 the Netherlands was inherited by his daughter Wlhelmina, but the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg was inherited by Adolph, his 17th cousin once removed in the male line. Count Henry II of Nassau, the common ancestor of the 2 branches, died in 1247, 643 years before 1890.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 19 at 18:41
1
When Henry III of France died in 1589, the last king of France with surviving descendants in the legitimate male line was Louis IX who died in 1270, eleven generations back. How far back do wizard pedigrees go?
– Anton Sherwood
Nov 20 at 5:40
Well, when a Pureblood loves his cousin very much... On a more serious note - I may have overlooked it, but do we have any confirmation that Corvus Sr is actually dead and unable to father another heir?
– Chronocidal
Nov 20 at 13:24
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No other children of her father were mentioned
- not only that, but the film makes a big deal of him possibly being the last lost heir of the family.
– Rawling
Nov 19 at 18:37
7
As others say the Lestrange family could be continued by other branches of the family. If the descendants of a man die out the family can be continued by descendants of that man's brothers, 1st cousins, 2nd cousins, etc. As an extreme example, when William III of the Netherlands died in 1890 the Netherlands was inherited by his daughter Wlhelmina, but the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg was inherited by Adolph, his 17th cousin once removed in the male line. Count Henry II of Nassau, the common ancestor of the 2 branches, died in 1247, 643 years before 1890.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 19 at 18:41
1
When Henry III of France died in 1589, the last king of France with surviving descendants in the legitimate male line was Louis IX who died in 1270, eleven generations back. How far back do wizard pedigrees go?
– Anton Sherwood
Nov 20 at 5:40
Well, when a Pureblood loves his cousin very much... On a more serious note - I may have overlooked it, but do we have any confirmation that Corvus Sr is actually dead and unable to father another heir?
– Chronocidal
Nov 20 at 13:24
No other children of her father were mentioned
- not only that, but the film makes a big deal of him possibly being the last lost heir of the family.– Rawling
Nov 19 at 18:37
No other children of her father were mentioned
- not only that, but the film makes a big deal of him possibly being the last lost heir of the family.– Rawling
Nov 19 at 18:37
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7
As others say the Lestrange family could be continued by other branches of the family. If the descendants of a man die out the family can be continued by descendants of that man's brothers, 1st cousins, 2nd cousins, etc. As an extreme example, when William III of the Netherlands died in 1890 the Netherlands was inherited by his daughter Wlhelmina, but the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg was inherited by Adolph, his 17th cousin once removed in the male line. Count Henry II of Nassau, the common ancestor of the 2 branches, died in 1247, 643 years before 1890.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 19 at 18:41
As others say the Lestrange family could be continued by other branches of the family. If the descendants of a man die out the family can be continued by descendants of that man's brothers, 1st cousins, 2nd cousins, etc. As an extreme example, when William III of the Netherlands died in 1890 the Netherlands was inherited by his daughter Wlhelmina, but the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg was inherited by Adolph, his 17th cousin once removed in the male line. Count Henry II of Nassau, the common ancestor of the 2 branches, died in 1247, 643 years before 1890.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 19 at 18:41
1
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When Henry III of France died in 1589, the last king of France with surviving descendants in the legitimate male line was Louis IX who died in 1270, eleven generations back. How far back do wizard pedigrees go?
– Anton Sherwood
Nov 20 at 5:40
When Henry III of France died in 1589, the last king of France with surviving descendants in the legitimate male line was Louis IX who died in 1270, eleven generations back. How far back do wizard pedigrees go?
– Anton Sherwood
Nov 20 at 5:40
Well, when a Pureblood loves his cousin very much... On a more serious note - I may have overlooked it, but do we have any confirmation that Corvus Sr is actually dead and unable to father another heir?
– Chronocidal
Nov 20 at 13:24
Well, when a Pureblood loves his cousin very much... On a more serious note - I may have overlooked it, but do we have any confirmation that Corvus Sr is actually dead and unable to father another heir?
– Chronocidal
Nov 20 at 13:24
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The Lestrange bloodline would continue through another branch.
The Lestrange bloodline could continue on through another male member of the bloodline though Leta’s father Corvus Sr. has no living descendants. It doesn’t have to have continued through him to have continued past his generation. It can continue through another branch. On the Lestrange family tree, there are other branches shown reaching nearly as far upwards as Corvus Sr.’s, the one ending with baby Corvus and Leta, meaning those branches likely have members who’d still be alive at a similar time period as Corvus Sr. was and they’d still be able to continue the bloodline.
Corvus Sr.’s is only one branch on the larger Lestrange family tree. The branches that have Fulcran Lestrange and Cyrille Lestrange seem to have a comparable number of generations of Lestranges as Corvus Sr.’s branch, so it has continued to Corvus Sr.’s generation through other branches as well. One of those branches will continue it further, since a new Lestrange will have be born to one of them sometime in the 1920s or 1930s. The baby may not have appeared on the tree yet, but the bloodline continues past Corvus Sr.’s generation, since a Lestrange baby was either already born or will be. There’s a male Lestrange who went to Hogwarts when Tom Riddle did, meaning he’d be born somewhere around 1926 since he’d have to be born, at the most, seven years apart from Tom for his attendance at Hogwarts to overlap with Tom - the bloodline would have continued with his parents then possibly through him, as being male, he could pass on the Lestrange name.
“Good gracious, is it that time already?’ said Slughorn. ‘You’d better get going, boys, or we’ll all be in trouble. Lestrange, I want your essay by tomorrow or it’s detention.”
- Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Chapter 23 (Horcruxes)
One of those other branches would have the parents of the Lestrange who went to Hogwarts with Tom Riddle - he might not have been born yet, so he may not be on the tree. It’s not clear how he’s related to Corvus Lestrange Sr. but he was born to parents that were Lestranges, since he’s born a Lestrange. The line was clearly able to continue through another branch than Corvus Sr.’s, and if that Lestrange wasn’t born when the tree is seen, wouldn’t be shown yet.
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@Rawling It does help answer how the line continues. It proves that, yes, there is another male Lestrange that exists other than Corvus - his father presumably wasn’t Corvus Lestrange Sr. but his parents had him and he’d have the ability to pass on the Lestrange name.
– Bellatrix
Nov 19 at 18:51
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The question doesn't actually ask how the line continues, it asks how it's possible that it does.
– Beanluc
Nov 20 at 0:06
I didn't have a chance to examine the tree closely, but given the number of "wives" Corvus had, and his ... er ... proclivities in his method of acquiring him, it seems quite likely there were other half-siblings from other wives out there too.
– T.E.D.
Nov 20 at 14:12
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None of what you reference is reason to believe that there are no other men carrying the Lestrange family name. If her father had one or more brothers, and those brothers had one or more sons, then the name lives on.
If at some point she stated that there are no such men, then either (in-universe) she's mistaken, or (out-of-universe) it's an error on the part of the script writer.
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If she says the name dies out with her brother, and yet it didn't die out, it must be due to cousins. If she had known about them, she wouldn't have said the name would die out. Therefore, she didn't know.
– EvilSnack
Nov 19 at 15:28
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There are many possibilities, including that:
- the father had a sister (or other female relative) who passed on her name,
- a descendant born with a different last name (re)adopted it.
This appears to be idle speculation, do you have any evidence you can edit in?
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 10:23
@TheLethalCarrot: The question is asking for "Any ideas?", so speculation seems to be called for. Idle? I don't know. What kind of evidence did you have in mind?
– hkBst
Nov 20 at 10:52
Evidence usually means quotes from the books/films, family trees etc. Look at Bellatrix's answer and its various revisions for an idea.
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 11:05
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@TheLethalCarrot: Well, Bellatrix was uniquely suited to answer this particular question...
– Matthieu M.
Nov 20 at 15:15
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The Lestrange bloodline would continue through another branch.
The Lestrange bloodline could continue on through another male member of the bloodline though Leta’s father Corvus Sr. has no living descendants. It doesn’t have to have continued through him to have continued past his generation. It can continue through another branch. On the Lestrange family tree, there are other branches shown reaching nearly as far upwards as Corvus Sr.’s, the one ending with baby Corvus and Leta, meaning those branches likely have members who’d still be alive at a similar time period as Corvus Sr. was and they’d still be able to continue the bloodline.
Corvus Sr.’s is only one branch on the larger Lestrange family tree. The branches that have Fulcran Lestrange and Cyrille Lestrange seem to have a comparable number of generations of Lestranges as Corvus Sr.’s branch, so it has continued to Corvus Sr.’s generation through other branches as well. One of those branches will continue it further, since a new Lestrange will have be born to one of them sometime in the 1920s or 1930s. The baby may not have appeared on the tree yet, but the bloodline continues past Corvus Sr.’s generation, since a Lestrange baby was either already born or will be. There’s a male Lestrange who went to Hogwarts when Tom Riddle did, meaning he’d be born somewhere around 1926 since he’d have to be born, at the most, seven years apart from Tom for his attendance at Hogwarts to overlap with Tom - the bloodline would have continued with his parents then possibly through him, as being male, he could pass on the Lestrange name.
“Good gracious, is it that time already?’ said Slughorn. ‘You’d better get going, boys, or we’ll all be in trouble. Lestrange, I want your essay by tomorrow or it’s detention.”
- Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Chapter 23 (Horcruxes)
One of those other branches would have the parents of the Lestrange who went to Hogwarts with Tom Riddle - he might not have been born yet, so he may not be on the tree. It’s not clear how he’s related to Corvus Lestrange Sr. but he was born to parents that were Lestranges, since he’s born a Lestrange. The line was clearly able to continue through another branch than Corvus Sr.’s, and if that Lestrange wasn’t born when the tree is seen, wouldn’t be shown yet.
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@Rawling It does help answer how the line continues. It proves that, yes, there is another male Lestrange that exists other than Corvus - his father presumably wasn’t Corvus Lestrange Sr. but his parents had him and he’d have the ability to pass on the Lestrange name.
– Bellatrix
Nov 19 at 18:51
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The question doesn't actually ask how the line continues, it asks how it's possible that it does.
– Beanluc
Nov 20 at 0:06
I didn't have a chance to examine the tree closely, but given the number of "wives" Corvus had, and his ... er ... proclivities in his method of acquiring him, it seems quite likely there were other half-siblings from other wives out there too.
– T.E.D.
Nov 20 at 14:12
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up vote
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The Lestrange bloodline would continue through another branch.
The Lestrange bloodline could continue on through another male member of the bloodline though Leta’s father Corvus Sr. has no living descendants. It doesn’t have to have continued through him to have continued past his generation. It can continue through another branch. On the Lestrange family tree, there are other branches shown reaching nearly as far upwards as Corvus Sr.’s, the one ending with baby Corvus and Leta, meaning those branches likely have members who’d still be alive at a similar time period as Corvus Sr. was and they’d still be able to continue the bloodline.
Corvus Sr.’s is only one branch on the larger Lestrange family tree. The branches that have Fulcran Lestrange and Cyrille Lestrange seem to have a comparable number of generations of Lestranges as Corvus Sr.’s branch, so it has continued to Corvus Sr.’s generation through other branches as well. One of those branches will continue it further, since a new Lestrange will have be born to one of them sometime in the 1920s or 1930s. The baby may not have appeared on the tree yet, but the bloodline continues past Corvus Sr.’s generation, since a Lestrange baby was either already born or will be. There’s a male Lestrange who went to Hogwarts when Tom Riddle did, meaning he’d be born somewhere around 1926 since he’d have to be born, at the most, seven years apart from Tom for his attendance at Hogwarts to overlap with Tom - the bloodline would have continued with his parents then possibly through him, as being male, he could pass on the Lestrange name.
“Good gracious, is it that time already?’ said Slughorn. ‘You’d better get going, boys, or we’ll all be in trouble. Lestrange, I want your essay by tomorrow or it’s detention.”
- Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Chapter 23 (Horcruxes)
One of those other branches would have the parents of the Lestrange who went to Hogwarts with Tom Riddle - he might not have been born yet, so he may not be on the tree. It’s not clear how he’s related to Corvus Lestrange Sr. but he was born to parents that were Lestranges, since he’s born a Lestrange. The line was clearly able to continue through another branch than Corvus Sr.’s, and if that Lestrange wasn’t born when the tree is seen, wouldn’t be shown yet.
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@Rawling It does help answer how the line continues. It proves that, yes, there is another male Lestrange that exists other than Corvus - his father presumably wasn’t Corvus Lestrange Sr. but his parents had him and he’d have the ability to pass on the Lestrange name.
– Bellatrix
Nov 19 at 18:51
2
The question doesn't actually ask how the line continues, it asks how it's possible that it does.
– Beanluc
Nov 20 at 0:06
I didn't have a chance to examine the tree closely, but given the number of "wives" Corvus had, and his ... er ... proclivities in his method of acquiring him, it seems quite likely there were other half-siblings from other wives out there too.
– T.E.D.
Nov 20 at 14:12
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up vote
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The Lestrange bloodline would continue through another branch.
The Lestrange bloodline could continue on through another male member of the bloodline though Leta’s father Corvus Sr. has no living descendants. It doesn’t have to have continued through him to have continued past his generation. It can continue through another branch. On the Lestrange family tree, there are other branches shown reaching nearly as far upwards as Corvus Sr.’s, the one ending with baby Corvus and Leta, meaning those branches likely have members who’d still be alive at a similar time period as Corvus Sr. was and they’d still be able to continue the bloodline.
Corvus Sr.’s is only one branch on the larger Lestrange family tree. The branches that have Fulcran Lestrange and Cyrille Lestrange seem to have a comparable number of generations of Lestranges as Corvus Sr.’s branch, so it has continued to Corvus Sr.’s generation through other branches as well. One of those branches will continue it further, since a new Lestrange will have be born to one of them sometime in the 1920s or 1930s. The baby may not have appeared on the tree yet, but the bloodline continues past Corvus Sr.’s generation, since a Lestrange baby was either already born or will be. There’s a male Lestrange who went to Hogwarts when Tom Riddle did, meaning he’d be born somewhere around 1926 since he’d have to be born, at the most, seven years apart from Tom for his attendance at Hogwarts to overlap with Tom - the bloodline would have continued with his parents then possibly through him, as being male, he could pass on the Lestrange name.
“Good gracious, is it that time already?’ said Slughorn. ‘You’d better get going, boys, or we’ll all be in trouble. Lestrange, I want your essay by tomorrow or it’s detention.”
- Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Chapter 23 (Horcruxes)
One of those other branches would have the parents of the Lestrange who went to Hogwarts with Tom Riddle - he might not have been born yet, so he may not be on the tree. It’s not clear how he’s related to Corvus Lestrange Sr. but he was born to parents that were Lestranges, since he’s born a Lestrange. The line was clearly able to continue through another branch than Corvus Sr.’s, and if that Lestrange wasn’t born when the tree is seen, wouldn’t be shown yet.
The Lestrange bloodline would continue through another branch.
The Lestrange bloodline could continue on through another male member of the bloodline though Leta’s father Corvus Sr. has no living descendants. It doesn’t have to have continued through him to have continued past his generation. It can continue through another branch. On the Lestrange family tree, there are other branches shown reaching nearly as far upwards as Corvus Sr.’s, the one ending with baby Corvus and Leta, meaning those branches likely have members who’d still be alive at a similar time period as Corvus Sr. was and they’d still be able to continue the bloodline.
Corvus Sr.’s is only one branch on the larger Lestrange family tree. The branches that have Fulcran Lestrange and Cyrille Lestrange seem to have a comparable number of generations of Lestranges as Corvus Sr.’s branch, so it has continued to Corvus Sr.’s generation through other branches as well. One of those branches will continue it further, since a new Lestrange will have be born to one of them sometime in the 1920s or 1930s. The baby may not have appeared on the tree yet, but the bloodline continues past Corvus Sr.’s generation, since a Lestrange baby was either already born or will be. There’s a male Lestrange who went to Hogwarts when Tom Riddle did, meaning he’d be born somewhere around 1926 since he’d have to be born, at the most, seven years apart from Tom for his attendance at Hogwarts to overlap with Tom - the bloodline would have continued with his parents then possibly through him, as being male, he could pass on the Lestrange name.
“Good gracious, is it that time already?’ said Slughorn. ‘You’d better get going, boys, or we’ll all be in trouble. Lestrange, I want your essay by tomorrow or it’s detention.”
- Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Chapter 23 (Horcruxes)
One of those other branches would have the parents of the Lestrange who went to Hogwarts with Tom Riddle - he might not have been born yet, so he may not be on the tree. It’s not clear how he’s related to Corvus Lestrange Sr. but he was born to parents that were Lestranges, since he’s born a Lestrange. The line was clearly able to continue through another branch than Corvus Sr.’s, and if that Lestrange wasn’t born when the tree is seen, wouldn’t be shown yet.
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@Rawling It does help answer how the line continues. It proves that, yes, there is another male Lestrange that exists other than Corvus - his father presumably wasn’t Corvus Lestrange Sr. but his parents had him and he’d have the ability to pass on the Lestrange name.
– Bellatrix
Nov 19 at 18:51
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The question doesn't actually ask how the line continues, it asks how it's possible that it does.
– Beanluc
Nov 20 at 0:06
I didn't have a chance to examine the tree closely, but given the number of "wives" Corvus had, and his ... er ... proclivities in his method of acquiring him, it seems quite likely there were other half-siblings from other wives out there too.
– T.E.D.
Nov 20 at 14:12
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@Rawling It does help answer how the line continues. It proves that, yes, there is another male Lestrange that exists other than Corvus - his father presumably wasn’t Corvus Lestrange Sr. but his parents had him and he’d have the ability to pass on the Lestrange name.
– Bellatrix
Nov 19 at 18:51
2
The question doesn't actually ask how the line continues, it asks how it's possible that it does.
– Beanluc
Nov 20 at 0:06
I didn't have a chance to examine the tree closely, but given the number of "wives" Corvus had, and his ... er ... proclivities in his method of acquiring him, it seems quite likely there were other half-siblings from other wives out there too.
– T.E.D.
Nov 20 at 14:12
2
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@Rawling It does help answer how the line continues. It proves that, yes, there is another male Lestrange that exists other than Corvus - his father presumably wasn’t Corvus Lestrange Sr. but his parents had him and he’d have the ability to pass on the Lestrange name.
– Bellatrix
Nov 19 at 18:51
@Rawling It does help answer how the line continues. It proves that, yes, there is another male Lestrange that exists other than Corvus - his father presumably wasn’t Corvus Lestrange Sr. but his parents had him and he’d have the ability to pass on the Lestrange name.
– Bellatrix
Nov 19 at 18:51
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The question doesn't actually ask how the line continues, it asks how it's possible that it does.
– Beanluc
Nov 20 at 0:06
The question doesn't actually ask how the line continues, it asks how it's possible that it does.
– Beanluc
Nov 20 at 0:06
I didn't have a chance to examine the tree closely, but given the number of "wives" Corvus had, and his ... er ... proclivities in his method of acquiring him, it seems quite likely there were other half-siblings from other wives out there too.
– T.E.D.
Nov 20 at 14:12
I didn't have a chance to examine the tree closely, but given the number of "wives" Corvus had, and his ... er ... proclivities in his method of acquiring him, it seems quite likely there were other half-siblings from other wives out there too.
– T.E.D.
Nov 20 at 14:12
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None of what you reference is reason to believe that there are no other men carrying the Lestrange family name. If her father had one or more brothers, and those brothers had one or more sons, then the name lives on.
If at some point she stated that there are no such men, then either (in-universe) she's mistaken, or (out-of-universe) it's an error on the part of the script writer.
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If she says the name dies out with her brother, and yet it didn't die out, it must be due to cousins. If she had known about them, she wouldn't have said the name would die out. Therefore, she didn't know.
– EvilSnack
Nov 19 at 15:28
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None of what you reference is reason to believe that there are no other men carrying the Lestrange family name. If her father had one or more brothers, and those brothers had one or more sons, then the name lives on.
If at some point she stated that there are no such men, then either (in-universe) she's mistaken, or (out-of-universe) it's an error on the part of the script writer.
1
If she says the name dies out with her brother, and yet it didn't die out, it must be due to cousins. If she had known about them, she wouldn't have said the name would die out. Therefore, she didn't know.
– EvilSnack
Nov 19 at 15:28
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None of what you reference is reason to believe that there are no other men carrying the Lestrange family name. If her father had one or more brothers, and those brothers had one or more sons, then the name lives on.
If at some point she stated that there are no such men, then either (in-universe) she's mistaken, or (out-of-universe) it's an error on the part of the script writer.
None of what you reference is reason to believe that there are no other men carrying the Lestrange family name. If her father had one or more brothers, and those brothers had one or more sons, then the name lives on.
If at some point she stated that there are no such men, then either (in-universe) she's mistaken, or (out-of-universe) it's an error on the part of the script writer.
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If she says the name dies out with her brother, and yet it didn't die out, it must be due to cousins. If she had known about them, she wouldn't have said the name would die out. Therefore, she didn't know.
– EvilSnack
Nov 19 at 15:28
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If she says the name dies out with her brother, and yet it didn't die out, it must be due to cousins. If she had known about them, she wouldn't have said the name would die out. Therefore, she didn't know.
– EvilSnack
Nov 19 at 15:28
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If she says the name dies out with her brother, and yet it didn't die out, it must be due to cousins. If she had known about them, she wouldn't have said the name would die out. Therefore, she didn't know.
– EvilSnack
Nov 19 at 15:28
If she says the name dies out with her brother, and yet it didn't die out, it must be due to cousins. If she had known about them, she wouldn't have said the name would die out. Therefore, she didn't know.
– EvilSnack
Nov 19 at 15:28
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There are many possibilities, including that:
- the father had a sister (or other female relative) who passed on her name,
- a descendant born with a different last name (re)adopted it.
This appears to be idle speculation, do you have any evidence you can edit in?
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 10:23
@TheLethalCarrot: The question is asking for "Any ideas?", so speculation seems to be called for. Idle? I don't know. What kind of evidence did you have in mind?
– hkBst
Nov 20 at 10:52
Evidence usually means quotes from the books/films, family trees etc. Look at Bellatrix's answer and its various revisions for an idea.
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 11:05
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@TheLethalCarrot: Well, Bellatrix was uniquely suited to answer this particular question...
– Matthieu M.
Nov 20 at 15:15
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There are many possibilities, including that:
- the father had a sister (or other female relative) who passed on her name,
- a descendant born with a different last name (re)adopted it.
This appears to be idle speculation, do you have any evidence you can edit in?
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 10:23
@TheLethalCarrot: The question is asking for "Any ideas?", so speculation seems to be called for. Idle? I don't know. What kind of evidence did you have in mind?
– hkBst
Nov 20 at 10:52
Evidence usually means quotes from the books/films, family trees etc. Look at Bellatrix's answer and its various revisions for an idea.
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 11:05
2
@TheLethalCarrot: Well, Bellatrix was uniquely suited to answer this particular question...
– Matthieu M.
Nov 20 at 15:15
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up vote
-1
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up vote
-1
down vote
There are many possibilities, including that:
- the father had a sister (or other female relative) who passed on her name,
- a descendant born with a different last name (re)adopted it.
There are many possibilities, including that:
- the father had a sister (or other female relative) who passed on her name,
- a descendant born with a different last name (re)adopted it.
answered Nov 20 at 10:10
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This appears to be idle speculation, do you have any evidence you can edit in?
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 10:23
@TheLethalCarrot: The question is asking for "Any ideas?", so speculation seems to be called for. Idle? I don't know. What kind of evidence did you have in mind?
– hkBst
Nov 20 at 10:52
Evidence usually means quotes from the books/films, family trees etc. Look at Bellatrix's answer and its various revisions for an idea.
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 11:05
2
@TheLethalCarrot: Well, Bellatrix was uniquely suited to answer this particular question...
– Matthieu M.
Nov 20 at 15:15
add a comment |
This appears to be idle speculation, do you have any evidence you can edit in?
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 10:23
@TheLethalCarrot: The question is asking for "Any ideas?", so speculation seems to be called for. Idle? I don't know. What kind of evidence did you have in mind?
– hkBst
Nov 20 at 10:52
Evidence usually means quotes from the books/films, family trees etc. Look at Bellatrix's answer and its various revisions for an idea.
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 11:05
2
@TheLethalCarrot: Well, Bellatrix was uniquely suited to answer this particular question...
– Matthieu M.
Nov 20 at 15:15
This appears to be idle speculation, do you have any evidence you can edit in?
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 10:23
This appears to be idle speculation, do you have any evidence you can edit in?
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 10:23
@TheLethalCarrot: The question is asking for "Any ideas?", so speculation seems to be called for. Idle? I don't know. What kind of evidence did you have in mind?
– hkBst
Nov 20 at 10:52
@TheLethalCarrot: The question is asking for "Any ideas?", so speculation seems to be called for. Idle? I don't know. What kind of evidence did you have in mind?
– hkBst
Nov 20 at 10:52
Evidence usually means quotes from the books/films, family trees etc. Look at Bellatrix's answer and its various revisions for an idea.
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 11:05
Evidence usually means quotes from the books/films, family trees etc. Look at Bellatrix's answer and its various revisions for an idea.
– TheLethalCarrot
Nov 20 at 11:05
2
2
@TheLethalCarrot: Well, Bellatrix was uniquely suited to answer this particular question...
– Matthieu M.
Nov 20 at 15:15
@TheLethalCarrot: Well, Bellatrix was uniquely suited to answer this particular question...
– Matthieu M.
Nov 20 at 15:15
add a comment |
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No other children of her father were mentioned
- not only that, but the film makes a big deal of him possibly being the last lost heir of the family.– Rawling
Nov 19 at 18:37
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As others say the Lestrange family could be continued by other branches of the family. If the descendants of a man die out the family can be continued by descendants of that man's brothers, 1st cousins, 2nd cousins, etc. As an extreme example, when William III of the Netherlands died in 1890 the Netherlands was inherited by his daughter Wlhelmina, but the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg was inherited by Adolph, his 17th cousin once removed in the male line. Count Henry II of Nassau, the common ancestor of the 2 branches, died in 1247, 643 years before 1890.
– M. A. Golding
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When Henry III of France died in 1589, the last king of France with surviving descendants in the legitimate male line was Louis IX who died in 1270, eleven generations back. How far back do wizard pedigrees go?
– Anton Sherwood
Nov 20 at 5:40
Well, when a Pureblood loves his cousin very much... On a more serious note - I may have overlooked it, but do we have any confirmation that Corvus Sr is actually dead and unable to father another heir?
– Chronocidal
Nov 20 at 13:24