In a saturated solution, why is there ongoing dissolution and crystallisation?
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I was studying equilibrium, and had this question..
In a saturated solution with sugar dissolved, why is there a constant process of dissolving and crystallising? What I mean by this is, why don't the already dissolved sugar just stay that way, and the excess undissolved sugar stay that way? As I thought this would seem easier, and neater (?), wouldn't it??
Is it because the undissolved sugar is still in water, and that means it will want to dissolve, but since the solvent has reached maximum amount of solutes it has to kick some sugar out and hence there is a process of crystalisation??
I am sorry for a rather stupid question... But any explanation is much, much appreciated...
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I was studying equilibrium, and had this question..
In a saturated solution with sugar dissolved, why is there a constant process of dissolving and crystallising? What I mean by this is, why don't the already dissolved sugar just stay that way, and the excess undissolved sugar stay that way? As I thought this would seem easier, and neater (?), wouldn't it??
Is it because the undissolved sugar is still in water, and that means it will want to dissolve, but since the solvent has reached maximum amount of solutes it has to kick some sugar out and hence there is a process of crystalisation??
I am sorry for a rather stupid question... But any explanation is much, much appreciated...
equilibrium
asked Nov 19 at 11:51
Brian Kum
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What could cause one of the processes to stop? How would having a lot of dissolved sugar cause sugar to not dissolve, or lots of crystals cause crystallization to stop?
– Acccumulation
Nov 19 at 18:46
Neater, until you tag the sugar water with radioactive isotope and put untagged sugar crystal in there, and is shocked when you find tagged molecule in the crystal a few minute later.
– user3528438
Nov 19 at 21:45
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I was studying equilibrium, and had this question..
In a saturated solution with sugar dissolved, why is there a constant process of dissolving and crystallising? What I mean by this is, why don't the already dissolved sugar just stay that way, and the excess undissolved sugar stay that way? As I thought this would seem easier, and neater (?), wouldn't it??
Is it because the undissolved sugar is still in water, and that means it will want to dissolve, but since the solvent has reached maximum amount of solutes it has to kick some sugar out and hence there is a process of crystalisation??
I am sorry for a rather stupid question... But any explanation is much, much appreciated...
equilibrium
asked Nov 19 at 11:51
Brian Kum
444
I was studying equilibrium, and had this question..
In a saturated solution with sugar dissolved, why is there a constant process of dissolving and crystallising? What I mean by this is, why don't the already dissolved sugar just stay that way, and the excess undissolved sugar stay that way? As I thought this would seem easier, and neater (?), wouldn't it??
Is it because the undissolved sugar is still in water, and that means it will want to dissolve, but since the solvent has reached maximum amount of solutes it has to kick some sugar out and hence there is a process of crystalisation??
I am sorry for a rather stupid question... But any explanation is much, much appreciated...
equilibrium
equilibrium
asked Nov 19 at 11:51
Brian Kum
444
asked Nov 19 at 11:51
Brian Kum
444
asked Nov 19 at 11:51
Brian Kum
444
asked Nov 19 at 11:51
Brian Kum
444
asked Nov 19 at 11:51
Brian Kum
444
444
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What could cause one of the processes to stop? How would having a lot of dissolved sugar cause sugar to not dissolve, or lots of crystals cause crystallization to stop?
– Acccumulation
Nov 19 at 18:46
Neater, until you tag the sugar water with radioactive isotope and put untagged sugar crystal in there, and is shocked when you find tagged molecule in the crystal a few minute later.
– user3528438
Nov 19 at 21:45
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1
What could cause one of the processes to stop? How would having a lot of dissolved sugar cause sugar to not dissolve, or lots of crystals cause crystallization to stop?
– Acccumulation
Nov 19 at 18:46
Neater, until you tag the sugar water with radioactive isotope and put untagged sugar crystal in there, and is shocked when you find tagged molecule in the crystal a few minute later.
– user3528438
Nov 19 at 21:45
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What could cause one of the processes to stop? How would having a lot of dissolved sugar cause sugar to not dissolve, or lots of crystals cause crystallization to stop?
– Acccumulation
Nov 19 at 18:46
What could cause one of the processes to stop? How would having a lot of dissolved sugar cause sugar to not dissolve, or lots of crystals cause crystallization to stop?
– Acccumulation
Nov 19 at 18:46
Neater, until you tag the sugar water with radioactive isotope and put untagged sugar crystal in there, and is shocked when you find tagged molecule in the crystal a few minute later.
– user3528438
Nov 19 at 21:45
Neater, until you tag the sugar water with radioactive isotope and put untagged sugar crystal in there, and is shocked when you find tagged molecule in the crystal a few minute later.
– user3528438
Nov 19 at 21:45
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Because equilibrium is dynamic not static
There are many things in the world of chemistry which could be simpler but are not. Equilibrium is one of them.
There are few chemical processes where equilibrium is equivalent to the situation where everything just stops. Equilibrium normally occurs when the rates of processes going forward are the same as the rates going backward, not when things stop happening. In this case the rate of dissolution is the same as the rate of crystallisation.
On a molecular level things are very dynamic. Molecules in the solution are hitting crystals all the time. Molecules in the crystal are vibrating and being hit by molecules of the solvent: sometimes the molecules in the crystal have enough energy to escape from the crystal and go into solution. Equilibrium is the point where those two reactions have equal rates, not where all the activity stops.
We know this is true in real solutions from several experiments. We can, for example, label the molecules in the crystal with radioactive versions of one of their atoms (eg carbon 14). Even if we start with a saturated non-radioactive solution and add radioactive crystals of the same compound, the radioactivity will spread to the solution (see this question Proof of Dynamic Nature of Equilibrium).
The key thing is that all equilibria in chemistry are dynamic. The major difference in many cases is how dynamic. Some happen very slowly, others very quickly. But the position of the equilibrium only has a weak relationship to the speed of the equilibrium.
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1 Answer
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
18
down vote
accepted
Because equilibrium is dynamic not static
There are many things in the world of chemistry which could be simpler but are not. Equilibrium is one of them.
There are few chemical processes where equilibrium is equivalent to the situation where everything just stops. Equilibrium normally occurs when the rates of processes going forward are the same as the rates going backward, not when things stop happening. In this case the rate of dissolution is the same as the rate of crystallisation.
On a molecular level things are very dynamic. Molecules in the solution are hitting crystals all the time. Molecules in the crystal are vibrating and being hit by molecules of the solvent: sometimes the molecules in the crystal have enough energy to escape from the crystal and go into solution. Equilibrium is the point where those two reactions have equal rates, not where all the activity stops.
We know this is true in real solutions from several experiments. We can, for example, label the molecules in the crystal with radioactive versions of one of their atoms (eg carbon 14). Even if we start with a saturated non-radioactive solution and add radioactive crystals of the same compound, the radioactivity will spread to the solution (see this question Proof of Dynamic Nature of Equilibrium).
The key thing is that all equilibria in chemistry are dynamic. The major difference in many cases is how dynamic. Some happen very slowly, others very quickly. But the position of the equilibrium only has a weak relationship to the speed of the equilibrium.
answered Nov 19 at 12:59
matt_black
17.5k249105
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up vote
18
down vote
accepted
Because equilibrium is dynamic not static
There are many things in the world of chemistry which could be simpler but are not. Equilibrium is one of them.
There are few chemical processes where equilibrium is equivalent to the situation where everything just stops. Equilibrium normally occurs when the rates of processes going forward are the same as the rates going backward, not when things stop happening. In this case the rate of dissolution is the same as the rate of crystallisation.
On a molecular level things are very dynamic. Molecules in the solution are hitting crystals all the time. Molecules in the crystal are vibrating and being hit by molecules of the solvent: sometimes the molecules in the crystal have enough energy to escape from the crystal and go into solution. Equilibrium is the point where those two reactions have equal rates, not where all the activity stops.
We know this is true in real solutions from several experiments. We can, for example, label the molecules in the crystal with radioactive versions of one of their atoms (eg carbon 14). Even if we start with a saturated non-radioactive solution and add radioactive crystals of the same compound, the radioactivity will spread to the solution (see this question Proof of Dynamic Nature of Equilibrium).
The key thing is that all equilibria in chemistry are dynamic. The major difference in many cases is how dynamic. Some happen very slowly, others very quickly. But the position of the equilibrium only has a weak relationship to the speed of the equilibrium.
answered Nov 19 at 12:59
matt_black
17.5k249105
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up vote
18
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accepted
up vote
18
down vote
accepted
Because equilibrium is dynamic not static
There are many things in the world of chemistry which could be simpler but are not. Equilibrium is one of them.
There are few chemical processes where equilibrium is equivalent to the situation where everything just stops. Equilibrium normally occurs when the rates of processes going forward are the same as the rates going backward, not when things stop happening. In this case the rate of dissolution is the same as the rate of crystallisation.
On a molecular level things are very dynamic. Molecules in the solution are hitting crystals all the time. Molecules in the crystal are vibrating and being hit by molecules of the solvent: sometimes the molecules in the crystal have enough energy to escape from the crystal and go into solution. Equilibrium is the point where those two reactions have equal rates, not where all the activity stops.
We know this is true in real solutions from several experiments. We can, for example, label the molecules in the crystal with radioactive versions of one of their atoms (eg carbon 14). Even if we start with a saturated non-radioactive solution and add radioactive crystals of the same compound, the radioactivity will spread to the solution (see this question Proof of Dynamic Nature of Equilibrium).
The key thing is that all equilibria in chemistry are dynamic. The major difference in many cases is how dynamic. Some happen very slowly, others very quickly. But the position of the equilibrium only has a weak relationship to the speed of the equilibrium.
answered Nov 19 at 12:59
matt_black
17.5k249105
Because equilibrium is dynamic not static
There are many things in the world of chemistry which could be simpler but are not. Equilibrium is one of them.
There are few chemical processes where equilibrium is equivalent to the situation where everything just stops. Equilibrium normally occurs when the rates of processes going forward are the same as the rates going backward, not when things stop happening. In this case the rate of dissolution is the same as the rate of crystallisation.
On a molecular level things are very dynamic. Molecules in the solution are hitting crystals all the time. Molecules in the crystal are vibrating and being hit by molecules of the solvent: sometimes the molecules in the crystal have enough energy to escape from the crystal and go into solution. Equilibrium is the point where those two reactions have equal rates, not where all the activity stops.
We know this is true in real solutions from several experiments. We can, for example, label the molecules in the crystal with radioactive versions of one of their atoms (eg carbon 14). Even if we start with a saturated non-radioactive solution and add radioactive crystals of the same compound, the radioactivity will spread to the solution (see this question Proof of Dynamic Nature of Equilibrium).
The key thing is that all equilibria in chemistry are dynamic. The major difference in many cases is how dynamic. Some happen very slowly, others very quickly. But the position of the equilibrium only has a weak relationship to the speed of the equilibrium.
answered Nov 19 at 12:59
matt_black
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answered Nov 19 at 12:59
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answered Nov 19 at 12:59
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What could cause one of the processes to stop? How would having a lot of dissolved sugar cause sugar to not dissolve, or lots of crystals cause crystallization to stop?
– Acccumulation
Nov 19 at 18:46
Neater, until you tag the sugar water with radioactive isotope and put untagged sugar crystal in there, and is shocked when you find tagged molecule in the crystal a few minute later.
– user3528438
Nov 19 at 21:45