What is the value of of the expression below
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If $f(0) =0$ and $f''(x)$ exists then what is the value of $$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}{x}$$
I tried Tailor and Lagrange theorems but to no avail.
clearly $f''(c)=2frac{f(x)-xf'(0
)}{x^2}$ where $0<c<x$
but how can i proceed further.
How can i find $f'(0)$
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If $f(0) =0$ and $f''(x)$ exists then what is the value of $$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}{x}$$
I tried Tailor and Lagrange theorems but to no avail.
clearly $f''(c)=2frac{f(x)-xf'(0
)}{x^2}$ where $0<c<x$
but how can i proceed further.
How can i find $f'(0)$
calculus
You can't, it's totally arbitrary.
– Yves Daoust
Mar 15 '16 at 10:13
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If $f(0) =0$ and $f''(x)$ exists then what is the value of $$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}{x}$$
I tried Tailor and Lagrange theorems but to no avail.
clearly $f''(c)=2frac{f(x)-xf'(0
)}{x^2}$ where $0<c<x$
but how can i proceed further.
How can i find $f'(0)$
calculus
If $f(0) =0$ and $f''(x)$ exists then what is the value of $$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}{x}$$
I tried Tailor and Lagrange theorems but to no avail.
clearly $f''(c)=2frac{f(x)-xf'(0
)}{x^2}$ where $0<c<x$
but how can i proceed further.
How can i find $f'(0)$
calculus
calculus
edited Mar 15 '16 at 8:41
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You can't, it's totally arbitrary.
– Yves Daoust
Mar 15 '16 at 10:13
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You can't, it's totally arbitrary.
– Yves Daoust
Mar 15 '16 at 10:13
You can't, it's totally arbitrary.
– Yves Daoust
Mar 15 '16 at 10:13
You can't, it's totally arbitrary.
– Yves Daoust
Mar 15 '16 at 10:13
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Expanding $f(t)$ around $x$ gives $f(t)=f(x)+(t-x)f'(x)+frac{(t-x)^2}2f''(tau)$, where $tau$ lies between $t$ and $x$.
For $t=0$ this gives $0=f(0)=f(x)-xf'(x)+frac{x^2}2f''(theta x)$ with $theta in (0,1)$ and therefore $f'(x)-frac{f(x)}x=frac x2f''(theta x)$.
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It is not clear what you are asking, though there are many functions that satisfy your conditions but yielding very different expressions.
For example, take $f(x)=x$ for which $f(0)=0, f''(x)$ exists and equals $0$.
That gives you an expression for $$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}{x}=1-1=0$$
and then take $g(x)=sinx$, $g(0)=0,g''(x)=-sinx$ for which
$$g'(x)-frac{g(x)}{x}=cosx-frac{sinx}{x}$$
Two different "values" for two functions that satisfy your conditions.
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By Taylor,
$$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}x=frac x2f''(0)+r'(x)-frac{r(x)}x,$$ where $r(x)$ is the remainder (hopefully, the last two terms can be neglectible for small $x$).
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Expanding $f(t)$ around $x$ gives $f(t)=f(x)+(t-x)f'(x)+frac{(t-x)^2}2f''(tau)$, where $tau$ lies between $t$ and $x$.
For $t=0$ this gives $0=f(0)=f(x)-xf'(x)+frac{x^2}2f''(theta x)$ with $theta in (0,1)$ and therefore $f'(x)-frac{f(x)}x=frac x2f''(theta x)$.
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Expanding $f(t)$ around $x$ gives $f(t)=f(x)+(t-x)f'(x)+frac{(t-x)^2}2f''(tau)$, where $tau$ lies between $t$ and $x$.
For $t=0$ this gives $0=f(0)=f(x)-xf'(x)+frac{x^2}2f''(theta x)$ with $theta in (0,1)$ and therefore $f'(x)-frac{f(x)}x=frac x2f''(theta x)$.
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Expanding $f(t)$ around $x$ gives $f(t)=f(x)+(t-x)f'(x)+frac{(t-x)^2}2f''(tau)$, where $tau$ lies between $t$ and $x$.
For $t=0$ this gives $0=f(0)=f(x)-xf'(x)+frac{x^2}2f''(theta x)$ with $theta in (0,1)$ and therefore $f'(x)-frac{f(x)}x=frac x2f''(theta x)$.
Expanding $f(t)$ around $x$ gives $f(t)=f(x)+(t-x)f'(x)+frac{(t-x)^2}2f''(tau)$, where $tau$ lies between $t$ and $x$.
For $t=0$ this gives $0=f(0)=f(x)-xf'(x)+frac{x^2}2f''(theta x)$ with $theta in (0,1)$ and therefore $f'(x)-frac{f(x)}x=frac x2f''(theta x)$.
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It is not clear what you are asking, though there are many functions that satisfy your conditions but yielding very different expressions.
For example, take $f(x)=x$ for which $f(0)=0, f''(x)$ exists and equals $0$.
That gives you an expression for $$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}{x}=1-1=0$$
and then take $g(x)=sinx$, $g(0)=0,g''(x)=-sinx$ for which
$$g'(x)-frac{g(x)}{x}=cosx-frac{sinx}{x}$$
Two different "values" for two functions that satisfy your conditions.
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It is not clear what you are asking, though there are many functions that satisfy your conditions but yielding very different expressions.
For example, take $f(x)=x$ for which $f(0)=0, f''(x)$ exists and equals $0$.
That gives you an expression for $$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}{x}=1-1=0$$
and then take $g(x)=sinx$, $g(0)=0,g''(x)=-sinx$ for which
$$g'(x)-frac{g(x)}{x}=cosx-frac{sinx}{x}$$
Two different "values" for two functions that satisfy your conditions.
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It is not clear what you are asking, though there are many functions that satisfy your conditions but yielding very different expressions.
For example, take $f(x)=x$ for which $f(0)=0, f''(x)$ exists and equals $0$.
That gives you an expression for $$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}{x}=1-1=0$$
and then take $g(x)=sinx$, $g(0)=0,g''(x)=-sinx$ for which
$$g'(x)-frac{g(x)}{x}=cosx-frac{sinx}{x}$$
Two different "values" for two functions that satisfy your conditions.
It is not clear what you are asking, though there are many functions that satisfy your conditions but yielding very different expressions.
For example, take $f(x)=x$ for which $f(0)=0, f''(x)$ exists and equals $0$.
That gives you an expression for $$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}{x}=1-1=0$$
and then take $g(x)=sinx$, $g(0)=0,g''(x)=-sinx$ for which
$$g'(x)-frac{g(x)}{x}=cosx-frac{sinx}{x}$$
Two different "values" for two functions that satisfy your conditions.
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By Taylor,
$$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}x=frac x2f''(0)+r'(x)-frac{r(x)}x,$$ where $r(x)$ is the remainder (hopefully, the last two terms can be neglectible for small $x$).
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By Taylor,
$$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}x=frac x2f''(0)+r'(x)-frac{r(x)}x,$$ where $r(x)$ is the remainder (hopefully, the last two terms can be neglectible for small $x$).
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By Taylor,
$$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}x=frac x2f''(0)+r'(x)-frac{r(x)}x,$$ where $r(x)$ is the remainder (hopefully, the last two terms can be neglectible for small $x$).
By Taylor,
$$f'(x)-frac{f(x)}x=frac x2f''(0)+r'(x)-frac{r(x)}x,$$ where $r(x)$ is the remainder (hopefully, the last two terms can be neglectible for small $x$).
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