Why are pins required on boot on devices with fingerprint readers?
Both my iPad and my android phone are configured to allow access via either a pin, or a fingerprint scan. However, immediately after a reboot, neither device allows a fingerprint for the first unlock; the pin is required instead. Both devices state "a pin is required to unlock after a reboot".
Why is this? What risk is associated with allowing a fingerprint unlock directly after a power on?
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Both my iPad and my android phone are configured to allow access via either a pin, or a fingerprint scan. However, immediately after a reboot, neither device allows a fingerprint for the first unlock; the pin is required instead. Both devices state "a pin is required to unlock after a reboot".
Why is this? What risk is associated with allowing a fingerprint unlock directly after a power on?
authentication biometrics boot
edited 2 hours ago
forest
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asked 2 hours ago
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Can somebody retag this if needed? I couldn't find anything more specific.
– Jason C
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Possible duplicate of Why do mobile devices force user to type password after reboot?
– forest
47 mins ago
I just found this duplicate. The answer explains why this is the case even with fingerprint readers.
– forest
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Both my iPad and my android phone are configured to allow access via either a pin, or a fingerprint scan. However, immediately after a reboot, neither device allows a fingerprint for the first unlock; the pin is required instead. Both devices state "a pin is required to unlock after a reboot".
Why is this? What risk is associated with allowing a fingerprint unlock directly after a power on?
authentication biometrics boot
edited 2 hours ago
forest
33k15106113
asked 2 hours ago
Jason C
185114
Both my iPad and my android phone are configured to allow access via either a pin, or a fingerprint scan. However, immediately after a reboot, neither device allows a fingerprint for the first unlock; the pin is required instead. Both devices state "a pin is required to unlock after a reboot".
Why is this? What risk is associated with allowing a fingerprint unlock directly after a power on?
authentication biometrics boot
authentication biometrics boot
edited 2 hours ago
forest
33k15106113
asked 2 hours ago
Jason C
185114
edited 2 hours ago
forest
33k15106113
asked 2 hours ago
Jason C
185114
edited 2 hours ago
forest
33k15106113
edited 2 hours ago
forest
33k15106113
edited 2 hours ago
forest
33k15106113
33k15106113
asked 2 hours ago
Jason C
185114
asked 2 hours ago
Jason C
185114
asked 2 hours ago
Jason C
185114
185114
Can somebody retag this if needed? I couldn't find anything more specific.
– Jason C
2 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Why do mobile devices force user to type password after reboot?
– forest
47 mins ago
I just found this duplicate. The answer explains why this is the case even with fingerprint readers.
– forest
46 mins ago
add a comment |
Can somebody retag this if needed? I couldn't find anything more specific.
– Jason C
2 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Why do mobile devices force user to type password after reboot?
– forest
47 mins ago
I just found this duplicate. The answer explains why this is the case even with fingerprint readers.
– forest
46 mins ago
Can somebody retag this if needed? I couldn't find anything more specific.
– Jason C
2 hours ago
Can somebody retag this if needed? I couldn't find anything more specific.
– Jason C
2 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Why do mobile devices force user to type password after reboot?
– forest
47 mins ago
Possible duplicate of Why do mobile devices force user to type password after reboot?
– forest
47 mins ago
I just found this duplicate. The answer explains why this is the case even with fingerprint readers.
– forest
46 mins ago
I just found this duplicate. The answer explains why this is the case even with fingerprint readers.
– forest
46 mins ago
add a comment |
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The PIN is used to derive an encryption key, whereas the fingerprint is used only for authentication. Because the encryption key is kept in memory during runtime, it is lost after a reboot and needs to be supplied again. It is supplied via the PIN or passphrase that you are required to enter.
answered 52 mins ago
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This is not a full answer and would be a comment but I don't have the rep. Sorry.
Why iOS asks for a pin initially is exaplined in this Black Hat talk at about 15 minutes. I naively assume Android is similar (?).
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@JasonC Heh you're right. I saw "This is not a full answer" and then "Why [...]" and flagged as NAA.
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The PIN is used to derive an encryption key, whereas the fingerprint is used only for authentication. Because the encryption key is kept in memory during runtime, it is lost after a reboot and needs to be supplied again. It is supplied via the PIN or passphrase that you are required to enter.
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The PIN is used to derive an encryption key, whereas the fingerprint is used only for authentication. Because the encryption key is kept in memory during runtime, it is lost after a reboot and needs to be supplied again. It is supplied via the PIN or passphrase that you are required to enter.
answered 52 mins ago
forest
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The PIN is used to derive an encryption key, whereas the fingerprint is used only for authentication. Because the encryption key is kept in memory during runtime, it is lost after a reboot and needs to be supplied again. It is supplied via the PIN or passphrase that you are required to enter.
answered 52 mins ago
forest
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The PIN is used to derive an encryption key, whereas the fingerprint is used only for authentication. Because the encryption key is kept in memory during runtime, it is lost after a reboot and needs to be supplied again. It is supplied via the PIN or passphrase that you are required to enter.
answered 52 mins ago
forest
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This is not a full answer and would be a comment but I don't have the rep. Sorry.
Why iOS asks for a pin initially is exaplined in this Black Hat talk at about 15 minutes. I naively assume Android is similar (?).
answered 1 hour ago
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@JasonC Heh you're right. I saw "This is not a full answer" and then "Why [...]" and flagged as NAA.
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This is not a full answer and would be a comment but I don't have the rep. Sorry.
Why iOS asks for a pin initially is exaplined in this Black Hat talk at about 15 minutes. I naively assume Android is similar (?).
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@JasonC Heh you're right. I saw "This is not a full answer" and then "Why [...]" and flagged as NAA.
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Why iOS asks for a pin initially is exaplined in this Black Hat talk at about 15 minutes. I naively assume Android is similar (?).
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@JasonC Heh you're right. I saw "This is not a full answer" and then "Why [...]" and flagged as NAA.
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Possible duplicate of Why do mobile devices force user to type password after reboot?
– forest
47 mins ago
I just found this duplicate. The answer explains why this is the case even with fingerprint readers.
– forest
46 mins ago