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What is the radical ideal of $(u^2v-a^3,uv^2-b^3,uv-ab)$ in $mathbb{C}[u,v,a,b]?$




Above all, to learn how to fish, what would be code that I can use to get the radical? I have not worked with Macaulay2 (computational algebra software) before, so what is a good reference to learn about?










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    What is the radical ideal of $(u^2v-a^3,uv^2-b^3,uv-ab)$ in $mathbb{C}[u,v,a,b]?$




    Above all, to learn how to fish, what would be code that I can use to get the radical? I have not worked with Macaulay2 (computational algebra software) before, so what is a good reference to learn about?










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      What is the radical ideal of $(u^2v-a^3,uv^2-b^3,uv-ab)$ in $mathbb{C}[u,v,a,b]?$




      Above all, to learn how to fish, what would be code that I can use to get the radical? I have not worked with Macaulay2 (computational algebra software) before, so what is a good reference to learn about?










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      What is the radical ideal of $(u^2v-a^3,uv^2-b^3,uv-ab)$ in $mathbb{C}[u,v,a,b]?$




      Above all, to learn how to fish, what would be code that I can use to get the radical? I have not worked with Macaulay2 (computational algebra software) before, so what is a good reference to learn about?







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          The following code gives the radical of your ideal:



          R = QQ[u,v,a,b]
          I = ideal (u^2*v-a^3,u*v^2-b^3,u*v-a*b)
          radI = radical I


          So, according to Macaulay2, we have $sqrt{I} = (a^2-ub,va-b^2,uv-ab)$.



          Beware, computing radicals can be extremely slow if you have many generators, because the algorithm must compute a Gröbner basis first. However, in this case, the ideal is binomial, and there are extremely efficient algorithms for computing with binomial ideals. (in Macaulay2, the package "BinomialIdeals" does this).



          Some (two) references on how to learn Macaulay2:





          • The Macaulay2 homepage. Here are four guides that will teach you the basics. Follow them step-by-step.

          • The Macaulay2 book Computations in Algebraic Geometry with Macaulay2. Lots of examples. And the whole book is available free in all sorts of formats.






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            Dear @Fredrik, thank you, it is very helpful.
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            – Ehsan M. Kermani
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            By the way, could you add some references for learning how to use Macauley2?
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            – Ehsan M. Kermani
            Nov 30 '12 at 22:34








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            @ehsanmo: Sure. I've added two helpful links. See the post.
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          The following code gives the radical of your ideal:



          R = QQ[u,v,a,b]
          I = ideal (u^2*v-a^3,u*v^2-b^3,u*v-a*b)
          radI = radical I


          So, according to Macaulay2, we have $sqrt{I} = (a^2-ub,va-b^2,uv-ab)$.



          Beware, computing radicals can be extremely slow if you have many generators, because the algorithm must compute a Gröbner basis first. However, in this case, the ideal is binomial, and there are extremely efficient algorithms for computing with binomial ideals. (in Macaulay2, the package "BinomialIdeals" does this).



          Some (two) references on how to learn Macaulay2:





          • The Macaulay2 homepage. Here are four guides that will teach you the basics. Follow them step-by-step.

          • The Macaulay2 book Computations in Algebraic Geometry with Macaulay2. Lots of examples. And the whole book is available free in all sorts of formats.






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          • $begingroup$
            Dear @Fredrik, thank you, it is very helpful.
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            – Ehsan M. Kermani
            Nov 30 '12 at 16:58










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            By the way, could you add some references for learning how to use Macauley2?
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            – Ehsan M. Kermani
            Nov 30 '12 at 22:34








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            $begingroup$
            @ehsanmo: Sure. I've added two helpful links. See the post.
            $endgroup$
            – Fredrik Meyer
            Dec 1 '12 at 10:59
















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          $begingroup$

          The following code gives the radical of your ideal:



          R = QQ[u,v,a,b]
          I = ideal (u^2*v-a^3,u*v^2-b^3,u*v-a*b)
          radI = radical I


          So, according to Macaulay2, we have $sqrt{I} = (a^2-ub,va-b^2,uv-ab)$.



          Beware, computing radicals can be extremely slow if you have many generators, because the algorithm must compute a Gröbner basis first. However, in this case, the ideal is binomial, and there are extremely efficient algorithms for computing with binomial ideals. (in Macaulay2, the package "BinomialIdeals" does this).



          Some (two) references on how to learn Macaulay2:





          • The Macaulay2 homepage. Here are four guides that will teach you the basics. Follow them step-by-step.

          • The Macaulay2 book Computations in Algebraic Geometry with Macaulay2. Lots of examples. And the whole book is available free in all sorts of formats.






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          • $begingroup$
            Dear @Fredrik, thank you, it is very helpful.
            $endgroup$
            – Ehsan M. Kermani
            Nov 30 '12 at 16:58










          • $begingroup$
            By the way, could you add some references for learning how to use Macauley2?
            $endgroup$
            – Ehsan M. Kermani
            Nov 30 '12 at 22:34








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @ehsanmo: Sure. I've added two helpful links. See the post.
            $endgroup$
            – Fredrik Meyer
            Dec 1 '12 at 10:59














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          $begingroup$

          The following code gives the radical of your ideal:



          R = QQ[u,v,a,b]
          I = ideal (u^2*v-a^3,u*v^2-b^3,u*v-a*b)
          radI = radical I


          So, according to Macaulay2, we have $sqrt{I} = (a^2-ub,va-b^2,uv-ab)$.



          Beware, computing radicals can be extremely slow if you have many generators, because the algorithm must compute a Gröbner basis first. However, in this case, the ideal is binomial, and there are extremely efficient algorithms for computing with binomial ideals. (in Macaulay2, the package "BinomialIdeals" does this).



          Some (two) references on how to learn Macaulay2:





          • The Macaulay2 homepage. Here are four guides that will teach you the basics. Follow them step-by-step.

          • The Macaulay2 book Computations in Algebraic Geometry with Macaulay2. Lots of examples. And the whole book is available free in all sorts of formats.






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          The following code gives the radical of your ideal:



          R = QQ[u,v,a,b]
          I = ideal (u^2*v-a^3,u*v^2-b^3,u*v-a*b)
          radI = radical I


          So, according to Macaulay2, we have $sqrt{I} = (a^2-ub,va-b^2,uv-ab)$.



          Beware, computing radicals can be extremely slow if you have many generators, because the algorithm must compute a Gröbner basis first. However, in this case, the ideal is binomial, and there are extremely efficient algorithms for computing with binomial ideals. (in Macaulay2, the package "BinomialIdeals" does this).



          Some (two) references on how to learn Macaulay2:





          • The Macaulay2 homepage. Here are four guides that will teach you the basics. Follow them step-by-step.

          • The Macaulay2 book Computations in Algebraic Geometry with Macaulay2. Lots of examples. And the whole book is available free in all sorts of formats.







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          • $begingroup$
            Dear @Fredrik, thank you, it is very helpful.
            $endgroup$
            – Ehsan M. Kermani
            Nov 30 '12 at 16:58










          • $begingroup$
            By the way, could you add some references for learning how to use Macauley2?
            $endgroup$
            – Ehsan M. Kermani
            Nov 30 '12 at 22:34








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @ehsanmo: Sure. I've added two helpful links. See the post.
            $endgroup$
            – Fredrik Meyer
            Dec 1 '12 at 10:59


















          • $begingroup$
            Dear @Fredrik, thank you, it is very helpful.
            $endgroup$
            – Ehsan M. Kermani
            Nov 30 '12 at 16:58










          • $begingroup$
            By the way, could you add some references for learning how to use Macauley2?
            $endgroup$
            – Ehsan M. Kermani
            Nov 30 '12 at 22:34








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @ehsanmo: Sure. I've added two helpful links. See the post.
            $endgroup$
            – Fredrik Meyer
            Dec 1 '12 at 10:59
















          $begingroup$
          Dear @Fredrik, thank you, it is very helpful.
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          – Ehsan M. Kermani
          Nov 30 '12 at 16:58




          $begingroup$
          Dear @Fredrik, thank you, it is very helpful.
          $endgroup$
          – Ehsan M. Kermani
          Nov 30 '12 at 16:58












          $begingroup$
          By the way, could you add some references for learning how to use Macauley2?
          $endgroup$
          – Ehsan M. Kermani
          Nov 30 '12 at 22:34






          $begingroup$
          By the way, could you add some references for learning how to use Macauley2?
          $endgroup$
          – Ehsan M. Kermani
          Nov 30 '12 at 22:34






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          $begingroup$
          @ehsanmo: Sure. I've added two helpful links. See the post.
          $endgroup$
          – Fredrik Meyer
          Dec 1 '12 at 10:59




          $begingroup$
          @ehsanmo: Sure. I've added two helpful links. See the post.
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