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I think most people have experienced this, but while pouring a beverage over ice I noticed the ice cracked.



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My initial thought was that because the beverage has an antifreeze property to it, that some sort of thermal shock might occur due to the rapid local cooling from dissolving the ice, but I know that this also occurs when other beverages such as various flavored carbonated sugar water products are poured on ice which do not depress freezing as much. So then What would cause the ice to crack?






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    Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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I think most people have experienced this, but while pouring a beverage over ice I noticed the ice cracked.



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My initial thought was that because the beverage has an antifreeze property to it, that some sort of thermal shock might occur due to the rapid local cooling from dissolving the ice, but I know that this also occurs when other beverages such as various flavored carbonated sugar water products are poured on ice which do not depress freezing as much. So then What would cause the ice to crack?






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    Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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I think most people have experienced this, but while pouring a beverage over ice I noticed the ice cracked.



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Before



After

After



My initial thought was that because the beverage has an antifreeze property to it, that some sort of thermal shock might occur due to the rapid local cooling from dissolving the ice, but I know that this also occurs when other beverages such as various flavored carbonated sugar water products are poured on ice which do not depress freezing as much. So then What would cause the ice to crack?






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I think most people have experienced this, but while pouring a beverage over ice I noticed the ice cracked.



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Before



After

After



My initial thought was that because the beverage has an antifreeze property to it, that some sort of thermal shock might occur due to the rapid local cooling from dissolving the ice, but I know that this also occurs when other beverages such as various flavored carbonated sugar water products are poured on ice which do not depress freezing as much. So then What would cause the ice to crack?






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    Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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    $begingroup$
    Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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I believe the ice cracked due to residual strains from freezing. Since ice freezes from the outside inward and it expands as it freezes, that as the inner water freezes, it imparts a tensile force on the surrounding ice (like the opposite effect of tempering glass). As the warm liquid removes ice, the cross sectional area under tension decreases while the tensile force remains the same, causing an increase in stress. Once the stress reaches a certain point, the ice fails to counter the tension mechanically, causing the cracks.






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    Water freezing into ice EXPANDS. ($ce{H2O}$ is most dense at $pu{4^circ C = 39^circ F}$) - https://sciencestruck.com/density-of-water. In other words, water expands BOTH as it cools below $pu{4^circ C}$, AND as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$.



    When ice comes out of the freezer, it is typically well below 0*C. It may be at -10*C for example. When you pour a (warmer) liquid over the ice, the SOLID ice CONTRACTS as it warms up from -10*C towards 0*C.



    Note that this is the SOLID ICE which is contracting as it warms - this is all BEFORE it gets UP to 0*C when it melts into a liquid. Since ice is a brittle solid crystal lattice, it cracks as it contracts.



    (You can see the expansion of $ce{H2O}$ as it freezes - notice in an ice tray, or a hose, it expands as it freezes. If you freeze water in a glass, it will break the glass.)



    For more info + details see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice#Physical_properties and https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ice-thermal-properties-d_576.html






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      I'm not sure how this is an answer. If the Ice goes above $pu{0^circ C}$ then it would be a liquid. COuld you revise this answer to be more descriptive?
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    I believe the ice cracked due to residual strains from freezing. Since ice freezes from the outside inward and it expands as it freezes, that as the inner water freezes, it imparts a tensile force on the surrounding ice (like the opposite effect of tempering glass). As the warm liquid removes ice, the cross sectional area under tension decreases while the tensile force remains the same, causing an increase in stress. Once the stress reaches a certain point, the ice fails to counter the tension mechanically, causing the cracks.






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      I believe the ice cracked due to residual strains from freezing. Since ice freezes from the outside inward and it expands as it freezes, that as the inner water freezes, it imparts a tensile force on the surrounding ice (like the opposite effect of tempering glass). As the warm liquid removes ice, the cross sectional area under tension decreases while the tensile force remains the same, causing an increase in stress. Once the stress reaches a certain point, the ice fails to counter the tension mechanically, causing the cracks.






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        I believe the ice cracked due to residual strains from freezing. Since ice freezes from the outside inward and it expands as it freezes, that as the inner water freezes, it imparts a tensile force on the surrounding ice (like the opposite effect of tempering glass). As the warm liquid removes ice, the cross sectional area under tension decreases while the tensile force remains the same, causing an increase in stress. Once the stress reaches a certain point, the ice fails to counter the tension mechanically, causing the cracks.






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        I believe the ice cracked due to residual strains from freezing. Since ice freezes from the outside inward and it expands as it freezes, that as the inner water freezes, it imparts a tensile force on the surrounding ice (like the opposite effect of tempering glass). As the warm liquid removes ice, the cross sectional area under tension decreases while the tensile force remains the same, causing an increase in stress. Once the stress reaches a certain point, the ice fails to counter the tension mechanically, causing the cracks.







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            Water freezing into ice EXPANDS. ($ce{H2O}$ is most dense at $pu{4^circ C = 39^circ F}$) - https://sciencestruck.com/density-of-water. In other words, water expands BOTH as it cools below $pu{4^circ C}$, AND as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$.



            When ice comes out of the freezer, it is typically well below 0*C. It may be at -10*C for example. When you pour a (warmer) liquid over the ice, the SOLID ice CONTRACTS as it warms up from -10*C towards 0*C.



            Note that this is the SOLID ICE which is contracting as it warms - this is all BEFORE it gets UP to 0*C when it melts into a liquid. Since ice is a brittle solid crystal lattice, it cracks as it contracts.



            (You can see the expansion of $ce{H2O}$ as it freezes - notice in an ice tray, or a hose, it expands as it freezes. If you freeze water in a glass, it will break the glass.)



            For more info + details see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice#Physical_properties and https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ice-thermal-properties-d_576.html






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              I'm not sure how this is an answer. If the Ice goes above $pu{0^circ C}$ then it would be a liquid. COuld you revise this answer to be more descriptive?
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            Water freezing into ice EXPANDS. ($ce{H2O}$ is most dense at $pu{4^circ C = 39^circ F}$) - https://sciencestruck.com/density-of-water. In other words, water expands BOTH as it cools below $pu{4^circ C}$, AND as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$.



            When ice comes out of the freezer, it is typically well below 0*C. It may be at -10*C for example. When you pour a (warmer) liquid over the ice, the SOLID ice CONTRACTS as it warms up from -10*C towards 0*C.



            Note that this is the SOLID ICE which is contracting as it warms - this is all BEFORE it gets UP to 0*C when it melts into a liquid. Since ice is a brittle solid crystal lattice, it cracks as it contracts.



            (You can see the expansion of $ce{H2O}$ as it freezes - notice in an ice tray, or a hose, it expands as it freezes. If you freeze water in a glass, it will break the glass.)



            For more info + details see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice#Physical_properties and https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ice-thermal-properties-d_576.html






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              I'm not sure how this is an answer. If the Ice goes above $pu{0^circ C}$ then it would be a liquid. COuld you revise this answer to be more descriptive?
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            Water freezing into ice EXPANDS. ($ce{H2O}$ is most dense at $pu{4^circ C = 39^circ F}$) - https://sciencestruck.com/density-of-water. In other words, water expands BOTH as it cools below $pu{4^circ C}$, AND as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$.



            When ice comes out of the freezer, it is typically well below 0*C. It may be at -10*C for example. When you pour a (warmer) liquid over the ice, the SOLID ice CONTRACTS as it warms up from -10*C towards 0*C.



            Note that this is the SOLID ICE which is contracting as it warms - this is all BEFORE it gets UP to 0*C when it melts into a liquid. Since ice is a brittle solid crystal lattice, it cracks as it contracts.



            (You can see the expansion of $ce{H2O}$ as it freezes - notice in an ice tray, or a hose, it expands as it freezes. If you freeze water in a glass, it will break the glass.)



            For more info + details see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice#Physical_properties and https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ice-thermal-properties-d_576.html






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            Water freezing into ice EXPANDS. ($ce{H2O}$ is most dense at $pu{4^circ C = 39^circ F}$) - https://sciencestruck.com/density-of-water. In other words, water expands BOTH as it cools below $pu{4^circ C}$, AND as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$.



            When ice comes out of the freezer, it is typically well below 0*C. It may be at -10*C for example. When you pour a (warmer) liquid over the ice, the SOLID ice CONTRACTS as it warms up from -10*C towards 0*C.



            Note that this is the SOLID ICE which is contracting as it warms - this is all BEFORE it gets UP to 0*C when it melts into a liquid. Since ice is a brittle solid crystal lattice, it cracks as it contracts.



            (You can see the expansion of $ce{H2O}$ as it freezes - notice in an ice tray, or a hose, it expands as it freezes. If you freeze water in a glass, it will break the glass.)



            For more info + details see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice#Physical_properties and https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ice-thermal-properties-d_576.html







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              I'm not sure how this is an answer. If the Ice goes above $pu{0^circ C}$ then it would be a liquid. COuld you revise this answer to be more descriptive?
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              I'm not sure how this is an answer. If the Ice goes above $pu{0^circ C}$ then it would be a liquid. COuld you revise this answer to be more descriptive?
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