Are there any sets that are not complete metric spaces under all possible metrics?
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I don't have any particular set in mind but this seemed interesthing since completeness depends on the metric.
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asked Dec 19 '18 at 14:42
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I don't have any particular set in mind but this seemed interesthing since completeness depends on the metric.
general-topology metric-spaces complete-spaces
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Do you really mean set here, or topological space? That is, do you want to consider any metric on a given set, or only those compatible with a given topology?
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– Alex Kruckman
Dec 19 '18 at 18:27
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@AlexKruckman First one but I forgot about the discrete metric and Balloon's answer wrapped things up. Now, I think it would be better to talk of a norm, rather than a metric.
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– 2chromatic
Dec 19 '18 at 18:31
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I don't have any particular set in mind but this seemed interesthing since completeness depends on the metric.
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asked Dec 19 '18 at 14:42
2chromatic2chromatic
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I don't have any particular set in mind but this seemed interesthing since completeness depends on the metric.
general-topology metric-spaces complete-spaces
general-topology metric-spaces complete-spaces
asked Dec 19 '18 at 14:42
2chromatic2chromatic
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Do you really mean set here, or topological space? That is, do you want to consider any metric on a given set, or only those compatible with a given topology?
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– Alex Kruckman
Dec 19 '18 at 18:27
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@AlexKruckman First one but I forgot about the discrete metric and Balloon's answer wrapped things up. Now, I think it would be better to talk of a norm, rather than a metric.
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– 2chromatic
Dec 19 '18 at 18:31
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Do you really mean set here, or topological space? That is, do you want to consider any metric on a given set, or only those compatible with a given topology?
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– Alex Kruckman
Dec 19 '18 at 18:27
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@AlexKruckman First one but I forgot about the discrete metric and Balloon's answer wrapped things up. Now, I think it would be better to talk of a norm, rather than a metric.
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– 2chromatic
Dec 19 '18 at 18:31
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Do you really mean set here, or topological space? That is, do you want to consider any metric on a given set, or only those compatible with a given topology?
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– Alex Kruckman
Dec 19 '18 at 18:27
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Do you really mean set here, or topological space? That is, do you want to consider any metric on a given set, or only those compatible with a given topology?
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– Alex Kruckman
Dec 19 '18 at 18:27
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@AlexKruckman First one but I forgot about the discrete metric and Balloon's answer wrapped things up. Now, I think it would be better to talk of a norm, rather than a metric.
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– 2chromatic
Dec 19 '18 at 18:31
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@AlexKruckman First one but I forgot about the discrete metric and Balloon's answer wrapped things up. Now, I think it would be better to talk of a norm, rather than a metric.
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– 2chromatic
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Since every set can be given the discrete metric $d(x,y)=left{begin{array}{ll} 1 & text{if $xneq y$}\0 &text{if $x = y$}end{array}right.$, and that for this metric every Cauchy sequence is stationnary and so convergent, you can't find a such example.
answered Dec 19 '18 at 14:45
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Yes, the set of rationals $mathbb{Q}$ in its usual topology is not a Baire space, so whatever compatible metric you put on it, it will be non-complete.
answered Dec 19 '18 at 14:44
Henno BrandsmaHenno Brandsma
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This depends on what the question is asking, precisely. If we view $mathbb{Q}$ just as a set then obviously we can make it a complete metric space (and I think this is how the question leans, but I'm not certain).
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– Noah Schweber
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Since every set can be given the discrete metric $d(x,y)=left{begin{array}{ll} 1 & text{if $xneq y$}\0 &text{if $x = y$}end{array}right.$, and that for this metric every Cauchy sequence is stationnary and so convergent, you can't find a such example.
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Since every set can be given the discrete metric $d(x,y)=left{begin{array}{ll} 1 & text{if $xneq y$}\0 &text{if $x = y$}end{array}right.$, and that for this metric every Cauchy sequence is stationnary and so convergent, you can't find a such example.
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Since every set can be given the discrete metric $d(x,y)=left{begin{array}{ll} 1 & text{if $xneq y$}\0 &text{if $x = y$}end{array}right.$, and that for this metric every Cauchy sequence is stationnary and so convergent, you can't find a such example.
answered Dec 19 '18 at 14:45
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Since every set can be given the discrete metric $d(x,y)=left{begin{array}{ll} 1 & text{if $xneq y$}\0 &text{if $x = y$}end{array}right.$, and that for this metric every Cauchy sequence is stationnary and so convergent, you can't find a such example.
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Yes, the set of rationals $mathbb{Q}$ in its usual topology is not a Baire space, so whatever compatible metric you put on it, it will be non-complete.
answered Dec 19 '18 at 14:44
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This depends on what the question is asking, precisely. If we view $mathbb{Q}$ just as a set then obviously we can make it a complete metric space (and I think this is how the question leans, but I'm not certain).
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– Noah Schweber
Dec 19 '18 at 14:48
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Yes, the set of rationals $mathbb{Q}$ in its usual topology is not a Baire space, so whatever compatible metric you put on it, it will be non-complete.
answered Dec 19 '18 at 14:44
Henno BrandsmaHenno Brandsma
113k348123
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This depends on what the question is asking, precisely. If we view $mathbb{Q}$ just as a set then obviously we can make it a complete metric space (and I think this is how the question leans, but I'm not certain).
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– Noah Schweber
Dec 19 '18 at 14:48
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Yes, the set of rationals $mathbb{Q}$ in its usual topology is not a Baire space, so whatever compatible metric you put on it, it will be non-complete.
answered Dec 19 '18 at 14:44
Henno BrandsmaHenno Brandsma
113k348123
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Yes, the set of rationals $mathbb{Q}$ in its usual topology is not a Baire space, so whatever compatible metric you put on it, it will be non-complete.
answered Dec 19 '18 at 14:44
Henno BrandsmaHenno Brandsma
113k348123
answered Dec 19 '18 at 14:44
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answered Dec 19 '18 at 14:44
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This depends on what the question is asking, precisely. If we view $mathbb{Q}$ just as a set then obviously we can make it a complete metric space (and I think this is how the question leans, but I'm not certain).
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– Noah Schweber
Dec 19 '18 at 14:48
add a comment |
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This depends on what the question is asking, precisely. If we view $mathbb{Q}$ just as a set then obviously we can make it a complete metric space (and I think this is how the question leans, but I'm not certain).
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– Noah Schweber
Dec 19 '18 at 14:48
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This depends on what the question is asking, precisely. If we view $mathbb{Q}$ just as a set then obviously we can make it a complete metric space (and I think this is how the question leans, but I'm not certain).
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– Noah Schweber
Dec 19 '18 at 14:48
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This depends on what the question is asking, precisely. If we view $mathbb{Q}$ just as a set then obviously we can make it a complete metric space (and I think this is how the question leans, but I'm not certain).
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– Noah Schweber
Dec 19 '18 at 14:48
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Do you really mean set here, or topological space? That is, do you want to consider any metric on a given set, or only those compatible with a given topology?
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– Alex Kruckman
Dec 19 '18 at 18:27
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@AlexKruckman First one but I forgot about the discrete metric and Balloon's answer wrapped things up. Now, I think it would be better to talk of a norm, rather than a metric.
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– 2chromatic
Dec 19 '18 at 18:31