Constructing a Poincare map for dynamical system












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I'm trying to construct a Poincare map for the system:



$$dot{x} = y$$
$$dot{y} = -a^2x + bcos(theta)$$
$$dot{theta} = a$$



I have always thought of the Poincare map as more of a theoretical tool and have never had to calculate one before.



My first difficulty here is deciding a surface on which to find the intersections. My initial thought was to use $theta = 0$ and then take snapshots of the system every time $theta$ is a multiple of $2pi$ but I'm having trouble finding the actual map.



Thanks for any help










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    I'm trying to construct a Poincare map for the system:



    $$dot{x} = y$$
    $$dot{y} = -a^2x + bcos(theta)$$
    $$dot{theta} = a$$



    I have always thought of the Poincare map as more of a theoretical tool and have never had to calculate one before.



    My first difficulty here is deciding a surface on which to find the intersections. My initial thought was to use $theta = 0$ and then take snapshots of the system every time $theta$ is a multiple of $2pi$ but I'm having trouble finding the actual map.



    Thanks for any help










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      I'm trying to construct a Poincare map for the system:



      $$dot{x} = y$$
      $$dot{y} = -a^2x + bcos(theta)$$
      $$dot{theta} = a$$



      I have always thought of the Poincare map as more of a theoretical tool and have never had to calculate one before.



      My first difficulty here is deciding a surface on which to find the intersections. My initial thought was to use $theta = 0$ and then take snapshots of the system every time $theta$ is a multiple of $2pi$ but I'm having trouble finding the actual map.



      Thanks for any help










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      I'm trying to construct a Poincare map for the system:



      $$dot{x} = y$$
      $$dot{y} = -a^2x + bcos(theta)$$
      $$dot{theta} = a$$



      I have always thought of the Poincare map as more of a theoretical tool and have never had to calculate one before.



      My first difficulty here is deciding a surface on which to find the intersections. My initial thought was to use $theta = 0$ and then take snapshots of the system every time $theta$ is a multiple of $2pi$ but I'm having trouble finding the actual map.



      Thanks for any help







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          Yes, $theta = 0$ is a good place to start. Thus take $theta = at$, and then solve the second-order linear DE
          $ddot{x} + a^2 x = b cos(at)$ with $x(0) = x_0$, $y(0) = dot{x}(0) = y_0$.

          Your Poincare map takes $(x_0, y_0)$ to $(x(2pi), y(2pi))$.






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            Okay great - thanks for your help. My difficulty was first believing I had the right choice with $theta = 0$ and then secondly realising that the $x$ and $y$ equations could be made into a 2nd order ODE.
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          Yes, $theta = 0$ is a good place to start. Thus take $theta = at$, and then solve the second-order linear DE
          $ddot{x} + a^2 x = b cos(at)$ with $x(0) = x_0$, $y(0) = dot{x}(0) = y_0$.

          Your Poincare map takes $(x_0, y_0)$ to $(x(2pi), y(2pi))$.






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            Okay great - thanks for your help. My difficulty was first believing I had the right choice with $theta = 0$ and then secondly realising that the $x$ and $y$ equations could be made into a 2nd order ODE.
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          $begingroup$

          Yes, $theta = 0$ is a good place to start. Thus take $theta = at$, and then solve the second-order linear DE
          $ddot{x} + a^2 x = b cos(at)$ with $x(0) = x_0$, $y(0) = dot{x}(0) = y_0$.

          Your Poincare map takes $(x_0, y_0)$ to $(x(2pi), y(2pi))$.






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          • $begingroup$
            Okay great - thanks for your help. My difficulty was first believing I had the right choice with $theta = 0$ and then secondly realising that the $x$ and $y$ equations could be made into a 2nd order ODE.
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            – Wooster
            May 12 '15 at 15:45














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          $begingroup$

          Yes, $theta = 0$ is a good place to start. Thus take $theta = at$, and then solve the second-order linear DE
          $ddot{x} + a^2 x = b cos(at)$ with $x(0) = x_0$, $y(0) = dot{x}(0) = y_0$.

          Your Poincare map takes $(x_0, y_0)$ to $(x(2pi), y(2pi))$.






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          Yes, $theta = 0$ is a good place to start. Thus take $theta = at$, and then solve the second-order linear DE
          $ddot{x} + a^2 x = b cos(at)$ with $x(0) = x_0$, $y(0) = dot{x}(0) = y_0$.

          Your Poincare map takes $(x_0, y_0)$ to $(x(2pi), y(2pi))$.







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          • $begingroup$
            Okay great - thanks for your help. My difficulty was first believing I had the right choice with $theta = 0$ and then secondly realising that the $x$ and $y$ equations could be made into a 2nd order ODE.
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            May 12 '15 at 15:45


















          • $begingroup$
            Okay great - thanks for your help. My difficulty was first believing I had the right choice with $theta = 0$ and then secondly realising that the $x$ and $y$ equations could be made into a 2nd order ODE.
            $endgroup$
            – Wooster
            May 12 '15 at 15:45
















          $begingroup$
          Okay great - thanks for your help. My difficulty was first believing I had the right choice with $theta = 0$ and then secondly realising that the $x$ and $y$ equations could be made into a 2nd order ODE.
          $endgroup$
          – Wooster
          May 12 '15 at 15:45




          $begingroup$
          Okay great - thanks for your help. My difficulty was first believing I had the right choice with $theta = 0$ and then secondly realising that the $x$ and $y$ equations could be made into a 2nd order ODE.
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