For closed set $S$ in uniform space $(X, mathcal{U})$, with $Ssubseteq W$, is there $Uin mathcal{U}$ such...












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Let $(X, mathcal{U})$ be a compact, Hausdorff uniform space and $Ssubseteq X$ be a closed set with $Ssubseteq W$, where $Wsubseteq X$ is an open set in $X$.



Let $U[x]={y: (x, y)in U}$ and $U[S]=cup_{xin S}U[x]$.



Is there $Uin mathcal{U}$ such that $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$?











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    Cover $S$ by finitely many $U_i[s]$, $s in S$ that all sit inside $W$.
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    – Henno Brandsma
    Dec 24 '18 at 8:44










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    @HennoBrandsma, Yes it is true that there is finitely $U_i[s]$ that is cover for $S$ and all sit inside $W$, but I need one entorage $Uin mathcal{U}$ with $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$.
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Let $(X, mathcal{U})$ be a compact, Hausdorff uniform space and $Ssubseteq X$ be a closed set with $Ssubseteq W$, where $Wsubseteq X$ is an open set in $X$.



Let $U[x]={y: (x, y)in U}$ and $U[S]=cup_{xin S}U[x]$.



Is there $Uin mathcal{U}$ such that $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$?











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  • $begingroup$
    Cover $S$ by finitely many $U_i[s]$, $s in S$ that all sit inside $W$.
    $endgroup$
    – Henno Brandsma
    Dec 24 '18 at 8:44










  • $begingroup$
    @HennoBrandsma, Yes it is true that there is finitely $U_i[s]$ that is cover for $S$ and all sit inside $W$, but I need one entorage $Uin mathcal{U}$ with $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$.
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    – user479859
    Dec 24 '18 at 9:52
















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Let $(X, mathcal{U})$ be a compact, Hausdorff uniform space and $Ssubseteq X$ be a closed set with $Ssubseteq W$, where $Wsubseteq X$ is an open set in $X$.



Let $U[x]={y: (x, y)in U}$ and $U[S]=cup_{xin S}U[x]$.



Is there $Uin mathcal{U}$ such that $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$?











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Let $(X, mathcal{U})$ be a compact, Hausdorff uniform space and $Ssubseteq X$ be a closed set with $Ssubseteq W$, where $Wsubseteq X$ is an open set in $X$.



Let $U[x]={y: (x, y)in U}$ and $U[S]=cup_{xin S}U[x]$.



Is there $Uin mathcal{U}$ such that $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$?








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  • $begingroup$
    Cover $S$ by finitely many $U_i[s]$, $s in S$ that all sit inside $W$.
    $endgroup$
    – Henno Brandsma
    Dec 24 '18 at 8:44










  • $begingroup$
    @HennoBrandsma, Yes it is true that there is finitely $U_i[s]$ that is cover for $S$ and all sit inside $W$, but I need one entorage $Uin mathcal{U}$ with $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$.
    $endgroup$
    – user479859
    Dec 24 '18 at 9:52




















  • $begingroup$
    Cover $S$ by finitely many $U_i[s]$, $s in S$ that all sit inside $W$.
    $endgroup$
    – Henno Brandsma
    Dec 24 '18 at 8:44










  • $begingroup$
    @HennoBrandsma, Yes it is true that there is finitely $U_i[s]$ that is cover for $S$ and all sit inside $W$, but I need one entorage $Uin mathcal{U}$ with $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$.
    $endgroup$
    – user479859
    Dec 24 '18 at 9:52


















$begingroup$
Cover $S$ by finitely many $U_i[s]$, $s in S$ that all sit inside $W$.
$endgroup$
– Henno Brandsma
Dec 24 '18 at 8:44




$begingroup$
Cover $S$ by finitely many $U_i[s]$, $s in S$ that all sit inside $W$.
$endgroup$
– Henno Brandsma
Dec 24 '18 at 8:44












$begingroup$
@HennoBrandsma, Yes it is true that there is finitely $U_i[s]$ that is cover for $S$ and all sit inside $W$, but I need one entorage $Uin mathcal{U}$ with $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$.
$endgroup$
– user479859
Dec 24 '18 at 9:52






$begingroup$
@HennoBrandsma, Yes it is true that there is finitely $U_i[s]$ that is cover for $S$ and all sit inside $W$, but I need one entorage $Uin mathcal{U}$ with $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$.
$endgroup$
– user479859
Dec 24 '18 at 9:52












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Is there $Uin mathcal{U}$ such that $Ssubseteq U[S]subseteq W$?




Yes. For each $xin S$ pick a symmetric entourage $U_xinmathcal U$ such that $U_x^2[x]subseteq W$. Since the set $S$ is compact, there exists a finite subset $F$ of $S$ such that $Ssubseteqbigcup{U_x[x]: xin F} $. Put $U=bigcap {U_x:xin F}$. Then
$$U[S]subseteq Uleft[bigcup{U_x[x]: xin F}right] subseteq bigcup{ U[U_x[x]]: xin F}
subseteq bigcup{ U^2_x[x]: xin F}]subseteq W.$$






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    Yes. For each $xin S$ pick a symmetric entourage $U_xinmathcal U$ such that $U_x^2[x]subseteq W$. Since the set $S$ is compact, there exists a finite subset $F$ of $S$ such that $Ssubseteqbigcup{U_x[x]: xin F} $. Put $U=bigcap {U_x:xin F}$. Then
    $$U[S]subseteq Uleft[bigcup{U_x[x]: xin F}right] subseteq bigcup{ U[U_x[x]]: xin F}
    subseteq bigcup{ U^2_x[x]: xin F}]subseteq W.$$






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      Yes. For each $xin S$ pick a symmetric entourage $U_xinmathcal U$ such that $U_x^2[x]subseteq W$. Since the set $S$ is compact, there exists a finite subset $F$ of $S$ such that $Ssubseteqbigcup{U_x[x]: xin F} $. Put $U=bigcap {U_x:xin F}$. Then
      $$U[S]subseteq Uleft[bigcup{U_x[x]: xin F}right] subseteq bigcup{ U[U_x[x]]: xin F}
      subseteq bigcup{ U^2_x[x]: xin F}]subseteq W.$$






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        Yes. For each $xin S$ pick a symmetric entourage $U_xinmathcal U$ such that $U_x^2[x]subseteq W$. Since the set $S$ is compact, there exists a finite subset $F$ of $S$ such that $Ssubseteqbigcup{U_x[x]: xin F} $. Put $U=bigcap {U_x:xin F}$. Then
        $$U[S]subseteq Uleft[bigcup{U_x[x]: xin F}right] subseteq bigcup{ U[U_x[x]]: xin F}
        subseteq bigcup{ U^2_x[x]: xin F}]subseteq W.$$






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        Yes. For each $xin S$ pick a symmetric entourage $U_xinmathcal U$ such that $U_x^2[x]subseteq W$. Since the set $S$ is compact, there exists a finite subset $F$ of $S$ such that $Ssubseteqbigcup{U_x[x]: xin F} $. Put $U=bigcap {U_x:xin F}$. Then
        $$U[S]subseteq Uleft[bigcup{U_x[x]: xin F}right] subseteq bigcup{ U[U_x[x]]: xin F}
        subseteq bigcup{ U^2_x[x]: xin F}]subseteq W.$$







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