Continuity of a rational function on $mathbb{R}$
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If $f(x)=dfrac{2x+1}{x^2+ax+1}$. Find the value(s) of $a$ so that $f(x)$ is continuous on all real numbers $mathbb{R}$.
Here, I'll write my attempt. The denominator $x^2+ax+1 neq 0$. Then by using the quadratic formula, we obtain the following equation $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq 0$. That means $-a pm sqrt{a^2-4} neq 0$. Then $-a = pm sqrt{a^2-4}$. By squaring both sides, we obtain $a^2 neq a^2-4$ which is always true. So the conclusion is that $a$ is any real number. Your comment is highly appreciated.
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If $f(x)=dfrac{2x+1}{x^2+ax+1}$. Find the value(s) of $a$ so that $f(x)$ is continuous on all real numbers $mathbb{R}$.
Here, I'll write my attempt. The denominator $x^2+ax+1 neq 0$. Then by using the quadratic formula, we obtain the following equation $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq 0$. That means $-a pm sqrt{a^2-4} neq 0$. Then $-a = pm sqrt{a^2-4}$. By squaring both sides, we obtain $a^2 neq a^2-4$ which is always true. So the conclusion is that $a$ is any real number. Your comment is highly appreciated.
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The quadratic formula doesn't give that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq 0$, but instead that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq x$.
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If $f(x)=dfrac{2x+1}{x^2+ax+1}$. Find the value(s) of $a$ so that $f(x)$ is continuous on all real numbers $mathbb{R}$.
Here, I'll write my attempt. The denominator $x^2+ax+1 neq 0$. Then by using the quadratic formula, we obtain the following equation $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq 0$. That means $-a pm sqrt{a^2-4} neq 0$. Then $-a = pm sqrt{a^2-4}$. By squaring both sides, we obtain $a^2 neq a^2-4$ which is always true. So the conclusion is that $a$ is any real number. Your comment is highly appreciated.
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If $f(x)=dfrac{2x+1}{x^2+ax+1}$. Find the value(s) of $a$ so that $f(x)$ is continuous on all real numbers $mathbb{R}$.
Here, I'll write my attempt. The denominator $x^2+ax+1 neq 0$. Then by using the quadratic formula, we obtain the following equation $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq 0$. That means $-a pm sqrt{a^2-4} neq 0$. Then $-a = pm sqrt{a^2-4}$. By squaring both sides, we obtain $a^2 neq a^2-4$ which is always true. So the conclusion is that $a$ is any real number. Your comment is highly appreciated.
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The quadratic formula doesn't give that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq 0$, but instead that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq x$.
– memerson
Oct 29 at 14:51
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The quadratic formula doesn't give that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq 0$, but instead that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq x$.
– memerson
Oct 29 at 14:51
The quadratic formula doesn't give that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq 0$, but instead that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq x$.
– memerson
Oct 29 at 14:51
The quadratic formula doesn't give that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq 0$, but instead that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq x$.
– memerson
Oct 29 at 14:51
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The case you want is that $x^2+ax+1neq0$ on the real line, which is equivalent to saying that $x^2+ax+1$ has complex roots
I just study the roots on the real line. So what $a$ can be?
– user113715
Oct 29 at 14:56
@user113715: for what values of $a$ does the quadratic formula indicate there are no real roots?
– robjohn♦
Oct 29 at 15:02
Offtopic: @user113715 I visited your profile, is there any reason why you learned knot theory prior to quadratic polynomials?
– Nick
Oct 29 at 15:03
I see, the quadratic formula gives no real number if $a^2-4 <0$. That means if $a in (-2,2)$. This gives that $a in (-infty,-2] cup (2,+infty)$
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:05
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you need to be very careful with your inequalities, since for example setting setting $a=-2$ yields that $x=2$ is a solution of your denominator. In particular you need not look for $neq 0$ but you need to look for $neq x$, since the existence of a soltion to your quadratic equation would yield to a zero of the denominator. Hence if you pick $a$ such that $a^2<4$ you are done, since then your squareroot does not exist in $mathbb{R}$ (pictorially your parabola does not touch the x axis), and so the fraction is defined everywhere.
ah yes, sorry, I am quite bad with the directions of my inequalities myself.
– Enkidu
Oct 29 at 15:06
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You're interpreting the quadratic formula in a wrong way: asking for
$$
frac{-apmsqrt{a^2-4}}{2}ne0
$$
is imposing that the polynomial doesn't have $0$ among its roots, which is surely true for every $a$, because the product of the roots is $1$ (Viète's formulas). So no wonder you found that your inequation is satisfied for every value of $a$.
You rather want to impose that the polynomial $x^2+ax+1$ has no real root. Whenever $a^2ge4$ there are real roots given by the quadratic formula. So you want $a^-4<0$, that is $-2<a<2$.
Thank you so much egreg, got it.
– user113715
Oct 31 at 16:10
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A very simple counterexample would be choosing $a = 2$.
$$x^2+2x+1 neq 0 implies (x+1)^2 neq 0 implies xneq -1$$
Thus, $a in mathbb{R}$ isn’t correct.
Your error is that you used the quadratic formula incorrectly.
$$ax^2+bx+c = 0 implies color{blue}{x} = frac{-bpmsqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}$$
You used $color{red}{0}$ instead of $color{blue}{x}$ in your inequality.
$$x^2+ax+1 neq 0$$
$$x neq frac{-apmsqrt{a^2-4}}{2}$$
If you think about the function $f(x) = x^2+ax+1$, what value of $a$ would produce no solutions (a.k.a $x$-intercepts)? The discriminant must become negative.
$$Delta < 0 implies a^2-4 < 0 implies a^2 < 4 implies a < 2 text{ and } a > -2 implies a in (-2, 2)$$
I got it. Thank you so much.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:09
In reply to Nick Liu commnet, There is no link actually between my question about quadratic polynomial and my research area (knot theory). Someone asked me this question and I got confused, so I posted my question here. Thank you all.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:12
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The case you want is that $x^2+ax+1neq0$ on the real line, which is equivalent to saying that $x^2+ax+1$ has complex roots
I just study the roots on the real line. So what $a$ can be?
– user113715
Oct 29 at 14:56
@user113715: for what values of $a$ does the quadratic formula indicate there are no real roots?
– robjohn♦
Oct 29 at 15:02
Offtopic: @user113715 I visited your profile, is there any reason why you learned knot theory prior to quadratic polynomials?
– Nick
Oct 29 at 15:03
I see, the quadratic formula gives no real number if $a^2-4 <0$. That means if $a in (-2,2)$. This gives that $a in (-infty,-2] cup (2,+infty)$
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:05
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The case you want is that $x^2+ax+1neq0$ on the real line, which is equivalent to saying that $x^2+ax+1$ has complex roots
I just study the roots on the real line. So what $a$ can be?
– user113715
Oct 29 at 14:56
@user113715: for what values of $a$ does the quadratic formula indicate there are no real roots?
– robjohn♦
Oct 29 at 15:02
Offtopic: @user113715 I visited your profile, is there any reason why you learned knot theory prior to quadratic polynomials?
– Nick
Oct 29 at 15:03
I see, the quadratic formula gives no real number if $a^2-4 <0$. That means if $a in (-2,2)$. This gives that $a in (-infty,-2] cup (2,+infty)$
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:05
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The case you want is that $x^2+ax+1neq0$ on the real line, which is equivalent to saying that $x^2+ax+1$ has complex roots
The case you want is that $x^2+ax+1neq0$ on the real line, which is equivalent to saying that $x^2+ax+1$ has complex roots
answered Oct 29 at 14:53
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I just study the roots on the real line. So what $a$ can be?
– user113715
Oct 29 at 14:56
@user113715: for what values of $a$ does the quadratic formula indicate there are no real roots?
– robjohn♦
Oct 29 at 15:02
Offtopic: @user113715 I visited your profile, is there any reason why you learned knot theory prior to quadratic polynomials?
– Nick
Oct 29 at 15:03
I see, the quadratic formula gives no real number if $a^2-4 <0$. That means if $a in (-2,2)$. This gives that $a in (-infty,-2] cup (2,+infty)$
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:05
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I just study the roots on the real line. So what $a$ can be?
– user113715
Oct 29 at 14:56
@user113715: for what values of $a$ does the quadratic formula indicate there are no real roots?
– robjohn♦
Oct 29 at 15:02
Offtopic: @user113715 I visited your profile, is there any reason why you learned knot theory prior to quadratic polynomials?
– Nick
Oct 29 at 15:03
I see, the quadratic formula gives no real number if $a^2-4 <0$. That means if $a in (-2,2)$. This gives that $a in (-infty,-2] cup (2,+infty)$
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:05
I just study the roots on the real line. So what $a$ can be?
– user113715
Oct 29 at 14:56
I just study the roots on the real line. So what $a$ can be?
– user113715
Oct 29 at 14:56
@user113715: for what values of $a$ does the quadratic formula indicate there are no real roots?
– robjohn♦
Oct 29 at 15:02
@user113715: for what values of $a$ does the quadratic formula indicate there are no real roots?
– robjohn♦
Oct 29 at 15:02
Offtopic: @user113715 I visited your profile, is there any reason why you learned knot theory prior to quadratic polynomials?
– Nick
Oct 29 at 15:03
Offtopic: @user113715 I visited your profile, is there any reason why you learned knot theory prior to quadratic polynomials?
– Nick
Oct 29 at 15:03
I see, the quadratic formula gives no real number if $a^2-4 <0$. That means if $a in (-2,2)$. This gives that $a in (-infty,-2] cup (2,+infty)$
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:05
I see, the quadratic formula gives no real number if $a^2-4 <0$. That means if $a in (-2,2)$. This gives that $a in (-infty,-2] cup (2,+infty)$
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:05
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you need to be very careful with your inequalities, since for example setting setting $a=-2$ yields that $x=2$ is a solution of your denominator. In particular you need not look for $neq 0$ but you need to look for $neq x$, since the existence of a soltion to your quadratic equation would yield to a zero of the denominator. Hence if you pick $a$ such that $a^2<4$ you are done, since then your squareroot does not exist in $mathbb{R}$ (pictorially your parabola does not touch the x axis), and so the fraction is defined everywhere.
ah yes, sorry, I am quite bad with the directions of my inequalities myself.
– Enkidu
Oct 29 at 15:06
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you need to be very careful with your inequalities, since for example setting setting $a=-2$ yields that $x=2$ is a solution of your denominator. In particular you need not look for $neq 0$ but you need to look for $neq x$, since the existence of a soltion to your quadratic equation would yield to a zero of the denominator. Hence if you pick $a$ such that $a^2<4$ you are done, since then your squareroot does not exist in $mathbb{R}$ (pictorially your parabola does not touch the x axis), and so the fraction is defined everywhere.
ah yes, sorry, I am quite bad with the directions of my inequalities myself.
– Enkidu
Oct 29 at 15:06
add a comment |
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up vote
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you need to be very careful with your inequalities, since for example setting setting $a=-2$ yields that $x=2$ is a solution of your denominator. In particular you need not look for $neq 0$ but you need to look for $neq x$, since the existence of a soltion to your quadratic equation would yield to a zero of the denominator. Hence if you pick $a$ such that $a^2<4$ you are done, since then your squareroot does not exist in $mathbb{R}$ (pictorially your parabola does not touch the x axis), and so the fraction is defined everywhere.
you need to be very careful with your inequalities, since for example setting setting $a=-2$ yields that $x=2$ is a solution of your denominator. In particular you need not look for $neq 0$ but you need to look for $neq x$, since the existence of a soltion to your quadratic equation would yield to a zero of the denominator. Hence if you pick $a$ such that $a^2<4$ you are done, since then your squareroot does not exist in $mathbb{R}$ (pictorially your parabola does not touch the x axis), and so the fraction is defined everywhere.
edited Oct 29 at 15:06
answered Oct 29 at 14:57
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ah yes, sorry, I am quite bad with the directions of my inequalities myself.
– Enkidu
Oct 29 at 15:06
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ah yes, sorry, I am quite bad with the directions of my inequalities myself.
– Enkidu
Oct 29 at 15:06
ah yes, sorry, I am quite bad with the directions of my inequalities myself.
– Enkidu
Oct 29 at 15:06
ah yes, sorry, I am quite bad with the directions of my inequalities myself.
– Enkidu
Oct 29 at 15:06
add a comment |
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You're interpreting the quadratic formula in a wrong way: asking for
$$
frac{-apmsqrt{a^2-4}}{2}ne0
$$
is imposing that the polynomial doesn't have $0$ among its roots, which is surely true for every $a$, because the product of the roots is $1$ (Viète's formulas). So no wonder you found that your inequation is satisfied for every value of $a$.
You rather want to impose that the polynomial $x^2+ax+1$ has no real root. Whenever $a^2ge4$ there are real roots given by the quadratic formula. So you want $a^-4<0$, that is $-2<a<2$.
Thank you so much egreg, got it.
– user113715
Oct 31 at 16:10
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up vote
0
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You're interpreting the quadratic formula in a wrong way: asking for
$$
frac{-apmsqrt{a^2-4}}{2}ne0
$$
is imposing that the polynomial doesn't have $0$ among its roots, which is surely true for every $a$, because the product of the roots is $1$ (Viète's formulas). So no wonder you found that your inequation is satisfied for every value of $a$.
You rather want to impose that the polynomial $x^2+ax+1$ has no real root. Whenever $a^2ge4$ there are real roots given by the quadratic formula. So you want $a^-4<0$, that is $-2<a<2$.
Thank you so much egreg, got it.
– user113715
Oct 31 at 16:10
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0
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up vote
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You're interpreting the quadratic formula in a wrong way: asking for
$$
frac{-apmsqrt{a^2-4}}{2}ne0
$$
is imposing that the polynomial doesn't have $0$ among its roots, which is surely true for every $a$, because the product of the roots is $1$ (Viète's formulas). So no wonder you found that your inequation is satisfied for every value of $a$.
You rather want to impose that the polynomial $x^2+ax+1$ has no real root. Whenever $a^2ge4$ there are real roots given by the quadratic formula. So you want $a^-4<0$, that is $-2<a<2$.
You're interpreting the quadratic formula in a wrong way: asking for
$$
frac{-apmsqrt{a^2-4}}{2}ne0
$$
is imposing that the polynomial doesn't have $0$ among its roots, which is surely true for every $a$, because the product of the roots is $1$ (Viète's formulas). So no wonder you found that your inequation is satisfied for every value of $a$.
You rather want to impose that the polynomial $x^2+ax+1$ has no real root. Whenever $a^2ge4$ there are real roots given by the quadratic formula. So you want $a^-4<0$, that is $-2<a<2$.
answered Oct 29 at 15:24
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Thank you so much egreg, got it.
– user113715
Oct 31 at 16:10
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Thank you so much egreg, got it.
– user113715
Oct 31 at 16:10
Thank you so much egreg, got it.
– user113715
Oct 31 at 16:10
Thank you so much egreg, got it.
– user113715
Oct 31 at 16:10
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A very simple counterexample would be choosing $a = 2$.
$$x^2+2x+1 neq 0 implies (x+1)^2 neq 0 implies xneq -1$$
Thus, $a in mathbb{R}$ isn’t correct.
Your error is that you used the quadratic formula incorrectly.
$$ax^2+bx+c = 0 implies color{blue}{x} = frac{-bpmsqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}$$
You used $color{red}{0}$ instead of $color{blue}{x}$ in your inequality.
$$x^2+ax+1 neq 0$$
$$x neq frac{-apmsqrt{a^2-4}}{2}$$
If you think about the function $f(x) = x^2+ax+1$, what value of $a$ would produce no solutions (a.k.a $x$-intercepts)? The discriminant must become negative.
$$Delta < 0 implies a^2-4 < 0 implies a^2 < 4 implies a < 2 text{ and } a > -2 implies a in (-2, 2)$$
I got it. Thank you so much.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:09
In reply to Nick Liu commnet, There is no link actually between my question about quadratic polynomial and my research area (knot theory). Someone asked me this question and I got confused, so I posted my question here. Thank you all.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:12
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A very simple counterexample would be choosing $a = 2$.
$$x^2+2x+1 neq 0 implies (x+1)^2 neq 0 implies xneq -1$$
Thus, $a in mathbb{R}$ isn’t correct.
Your error is that you used the quadratic formula incorrectly.
$$ax^2+bx+c = 0 implies color{blue}{x} = frac{-bpmsqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}$$
You used $color{red}{0}$ instead of $color{blue}{x}$ in your inequality.
$$x^2+ax+1 neq 0$$
$$x neq frac{-apmsqrt{a^2-4}}{2}$$
If you think about the function $f(x) = x^2+ax+1$, what value of $a$ would produce no solutions (a.k.a $x$-intercepts)? The discriminant must become negative.
$$Delta < 0 implies a^2-4 < 0 implies a^2 < 4 implies a < 2 text{ and } a > -2 implies a in (-2, 2)$$
I got it. Thank you so much.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:09
In reply to Nick Liu commnet, There is no link actually between my question about quadratic polynomial and my research area (knot theory). Someone asked me this question and I got confused, so I posted my question here. Thank you all.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:12
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A very simple counterexample would be choosing $a = 2$.
$$x^2+2x+1 neq 0 implies (x+1)^2 neq 0 implies xneq -1$$
Thus, $a in mathbb{R}$ isn’t correct.
Your error is that you used the quadratic formula incorrectly.
$$ax^2+bx+c = 0 implies color{blue}{x} = frac{-bpmsqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}$$
You used $color{red}{0}$ instead of $color{blue}{x}$ in your inequality.
$$x^2+ax+1 neq 0$$
$$x neq frac{-apmsqrt{a^2-4}}{2}$$
If you think about the function $f(x) = x^2+ax+1$, what value of $a$ would produce no solutions (a.k.a $x$-intercepts)? The discriminant must become negative.
$$Delta < 0 implies a^2-4 < 0 implies a^2 < 4 implies a < 2 text{ and } a > -2 implies a in (-2, 2)$$
A very simple counterexample would be choosing $a = 2$.
$$x^2+2x+1 neq 0 implies (x+1)^2 neq 0 implies xneq -1$$
Thus, $a in mathbb{R}$ isn’t correct.
Your error is that you used the quadratic formula incorrectly.
$$ax^2+bx+c = 0 implies color{blue}{x} = frac{-bpmsqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}$$
You used $color{red}{0}$ instead of $color{blue}{x}$ in your inequality.
$$x^2+ax+1 neq 0$$
$$x neq frac{-apmsqrt{a^2-4}}{2}$$
If you think about the function $f(x) = x^2+ax+1$, what value of $a$ would produce no solutions (a.k.a $x$-intercepts)? The discriminant must become negative.
$$Delta < 0 implies a^2-4 < 0 implies a^2 < 4 implies a < 2 text{ and } a > -2 implies a in (-2, 2)$$
edited Nov 19 at 18:38
answered Oct 29 at 15:07
KM101
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I got it. Thank you so much.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:09
In reply to Nick Liu commnet, There is no link actually between my question about quadratic polynomial and my research area (knot theory). Someone asked me this question and I got confused, so I posted my question here. Thank you all.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:12
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I got it. Thank you so much.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:09
In reply to Nick Liu commnet, There is no link actually between my question about quadratic polynomial and my research area (knot theory). Someone asked me this question and I got confused, so I posted my question here. Thank you all.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:12
I got it. Thank you so much.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:09
I got it. Thank you so much.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:09
In reply to Nick Liu commnet, There is no link actually between my question about quadratic polynomial and my research area (knot theory). Someone asked me this question and I got confused, so I posted my question here. Thank you all.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:12
In reply to Nick Liu commnet, There is no link actually between my question about quadratic polynomial and my research area (knot theory). Someone asked me this question and I got confused, so I posted my question here. Thank you all.
– user113715
Oct 29 at 15:12
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The quadratic formula doesn't give that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq 0$, but instead that $dfrac{-a pm sqrt{a^2-4}}{2} neq x$.
– memerson
Oct 29 at 14:51