What is the probability of three consecutive results X and two results Y in an event?
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I have N
number of days where three different events X,Y,Z
can occur in each day. A
is a set of possible occurrences of length N
. I want to calculate the number of ways where:
- Y does NOT happen twice or more in these number of days N
- X does NOT happen three times consecutively in these number of days N
So, one acceptable way where N=5
is A=[Z,Z,Z,Y,Z]
. One unacceptable way is where A=[X,X,X,Z,Z]
.
I was just going to find the number of days where Y
can occur two time, plus the number of days where x
happens three times consecutively, add then and subtract that from the total number of days possible, but that wouldn't give me the right answer because it is possible for there to be overlap in those days. I don't remember the right formula I need.
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I have N
number of days where three different events X,Y,Z
can occur in each day. A
is a set of possible occurrences of length N
. I want to calculate the number of ways where:
- Y does NOT happen twice or more in these number of days N
- X does NOT happen three times consecutively in these number of days N
So, one acceptable way where N=5
is A=[Z,Z,Z,Y,Z]
. One unacceptable way is where A=[X,X,X,Z,Z]
.
I was just going to find the number of days where Y
can occur two time, plus the number of days where x
happens three times consecutively, add then and subtract that from the total number of days possible, but that wouldn't give me the right answer because it is possible for there to be overlap in those days. I don't remember the right formula I need.
probability
To clarify, Y happens at most one time TOTAL, while X can happen many times, bot not three times in a row, correct?
– Todor Markov
Nov 20 at 12:44
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This is a repeat of math.stackexchange.com/questions/2250558/… which is also equivalent to projecteuler.net/problem=191
– antkam
Nov 20 at 14:27
@TodorMarkov Yes, that is correct
– user3026388
Nov 20 at 16:37
Do you mean Y happens exactly twice or at least twice?
– Mostafa Ayaz
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I have N
number of days where three different events X,Y,Z
can occur in each day. A
is a set of possible occurrences of length N
. I want to calculate the number of ways where:
- Y does NOT happen twice or more in these number of days N
- X does NOT happen three times consecutively in these number of days N
So, one acceptable way where N=5
is A=[Z,Z,Z,Y,Z]
. One unacceptable way is where A=[X,X,X,Z,Z]
.
I was just going to find the number of days where Y
can occur two time, plus the number of days where x
happens three times consecutively, add then and subtract that from the total number of days possible, but that wouldn't give me the right answer because it is possible for there to be overlap in those days. I don't remember the right formula I need.
probability
I have N
number of days where three different events X,Y,Z
can occur in each day. A
is a set of possible occurrences of length N
. I want to calculate the number of ways where:
- Y does NOT happen twice or more in these number of days N
- X does NOT happen three times consecutively in these number of days N
So, one acceptable way where N=5
is A=[Z,Z,Z,Y,Z]
. One unacceptable way is where A=[X,X,X,Z,Z]
.
I was just going to find the number of days where Y
can occur two time, plus the number of days where x
happens three times consecutively, add then and subtract that from the total number of days possible, but that wouldn't give me the right answer because it is possible for there to be overlap in those days. I don't remember the right formula I need.
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To clarify, Y happens at most one time TOTAL, while X can happen many times, bot not three times in a row, correct?
– Todor Markov
Nov 20 at 12:44
1
This is a repeat of math.stackexchange.com/questions/2250558/… which is also equivalent to projecteuler.net/problem=191
– antkam
Nov 20 at 14:27
@TodorMarkov Yes, that is correct
– user3026388
Nov 20 at 16:37
Do you mean Y happens exactly twice or at least twice?
– Mostafa Ayaz
Nov 21 at 18:23
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would like to know your feedback to my answer
– G Cab
2 days ago
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To clarify, Y happens at most one time TOTAL, while X can happen many times, bot not three times in a row, correct?
– Todor Markov
Nov 20 at 12:44
1
This is a repeat of math.stackexchange.com/questions/2250558/… which is also equivalent to projecteuler.net/problem=191
– antkam
Nov 20 at 14:27
@TodorMarkov Yes, that is correct
– user3026388
Nov 20 at 16:37
Do you mean Y happens exactly twice or at least twice?
– Mostafa Ayaz
Nov 21 at 18:23
1
would like to know your feedback to my answer
– G Cab
2 days ago
To clarify, Y happens at most one time TOTAL, while X can happen many times, bot not three times in a row, correct?
– Todor Markov
Nov 20 at 12:44
To clarify, Y happens at most one time TOTAL, while X can happen many times, bot not three times in a row, correct?
– Todor Markov
Nov 20 at 12:44
1
1
This is a repeat of math.stackexchange.com/questions/2250558/… which is also equivalent to projecteuler.net/problem=191
– antkam
Nov 20 at 14:27
This is a repeat of math.stackexchange.com/questions/2250558/… which is also equivalent to projecteuler.net/problem=191
– antkam
Nov 20 at 14:27
@TodorMarkov Yes, that is correct
– user3026388
Nov 20 at 16:37
@TodorMarkov Yes, that is correct
– user3026388
Nov 20 at 16:37
Do you mean Y happens exactly twice or at least twice?
– Mostafa Ayaz
Nov 21 at 18:23
Do you mean Y happens exactly twice or at least twice?
– Mostafa Ayaz
Nov 21 at 18:23
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1
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a) Y cannot appear two or more times
Then
- if Y does not appear, we are left with a binary (X,Z) string of length $n=N$;
- if Y appears once, by removing it, we are left with two binary (X,Z) string of length $n$ and $N-n-1$, with $0 le n le N-1$.
b) The string does not contain one (or more) runs of three (or more) consecutive X
Consider a binary string with $s$ $X; leftrightarrow ,1$'s and $m$ $Z; leftrightarrow ,0$'s in total.
The number of these strings in which the runs of consecutive ones have a length not greater than $r$, is given by
$$N_{,b} (s,r,m+1) = text{No}text{. of solutions to};left{ begin{gathered}
0 leqslant text{integer }x_{,j} leqslant r hfill \
x_{,1} + x_{,2} + cdots + x_{,m+1} = s hfill \
end{gathered} right.$$
which is equal to
$$
N_b (s,r,m + 1)quad left| {;0 leqslant text{integers }s,m,r} right.quad
= sumlimits_{left( {0, leqslant } right),,k,,left( { leqslant ,frac{s}{r}, leqslant ,m + 1} right)}
{left( { - 1} right)^k left( begin{gathered}
m + 1 \
k \
end{gathered} right)left( begin{gathered}
s + m - kleft( {r + 1} right) \
s - kleft( {r + 1} right) \
end{gathered} right)}
$$
as thoroughly explained in this and this other posts.
In our case $r=2$, and for a string of length $n$ we shall put $m=n-s$ and sum for $0 le s le n$
$$
S(n)quad = sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),s,left( { le ,n} right)} {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),,k,,left( { le ,{s over 2},} right)}
{left( { - 1} right)^k binom{n-s+1}{k} binom{n-3k}{s-3k}
} }
$$
For $n=0,1,2,cdots ,6$ we obtain that $S(n)$ equals
$$1, 2, 4, 7, 13, 24, 44, cdots$$
c) Conclusion
Standing what said in point a) we can conclude that the sought number $T(N)$ is given by
$$
T(n) = S(N) + sumlimits_{0, le ,n, le ,N - 1} {S(n),S(N - 1 - n)}
$$
For $n=0,1,2,cdots ,8$ $T(n)$ results to be
$$1, 3, 8, 19, 43, 94, 200, 418, 861, cdots$$
which checks correctly with a direct count.
Thank you, I get it now! I appreciate it
– user3026388
2 days ago
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1 Answer
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accepted
a) Y cannot appear two or more times
Then
- if Y does not appear, we are left with a binary (X,Z) string of length $n=N$;
- if Y appears once, by removing it, we are left with two binary (X,Z) string of length $n$ and $N-n-1$, with $0 le n le N-1$.
b) The string does not contain one (or more) runs of three (or more) consecutive X
Consider a binary string with $s$ $X; leftrightarrow ,1$'s and $m$ $Z; leftrightarrow ,0$'s in total.
The number of these strings in which the runs of consecutive ones have a length not greater than $r$, is given by
$$N_{,b} (s,r,m+1) = text{No}text{. of solutions to};left{ begin{gathered}
0 leqslant text{integer }x_{,j} leqslant r hfill \
x_{,1} + x_{,2} + cdots + x_{,m+1} = s hfill \
end{gathered} right.$$
which is equal to
$$
N_b (s,r,m + 1)quad left| {;0 leqslant text{integers }s,m,r} right.quad
= sumlimits_{left( {0, leqslant } right),,k,,left( { leqslant ,frac{s}{r}, leqslant ,m + 1} right)}
{left( { - 1} right)^k left( begin{gathered}
m + 1 \
k \
end{gathered} right)left( begin{gathered}
s + m - kleft( {r + 1} right) \
s - kleft( {r + 1} right) \
end{gathered} right)}
$$
as thoroughly explained in this and this other posts.
In our case $r=2$, and for a string of length $n$ we shall put $m=n-s$ and sum for $0 le s le n$
$$
S(n)quad = sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),s,left( { le ,n} right)} {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),,k,,left( { le ,{s over 2},} right)}
{left( { - 1} right)^k binom{n-s+1}{k} binom{n-3k}{s-3k}
} }
$$
For $n=0,1,2,cdots ,6$ we obtain that $S(n)$ equals
$$1, 2, 4, 7, 13, 24, 44, cdots$$
c) Conclusion
Standing what said in point a) we can conclude that the sought number $T(N)$ is given by
$$
T(n) = S(N) + sumlimits_{0, le ,n, le ,N - 1} {S(n),S(N - 1 - n)}
$$
For $n=0,1,2,cdots ,8$ $T(n)$ results to be
$$1, 3, 8, 19, 43, 94, 200, 418, 861, cdots$$
which checks correctly with a direct count.
Thank you, I get it now! I appreciate it
– user3026388
2 days ago
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– G Cab
2 days ago
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
a) Y cannot appear two or more times
Then
- if Y does not appear, we are left with a binary (X,Z) string of length $n=N$;
- if Y appears once, by removing it, we are left with two binary (X,Z) string of length $n$ and $N-n-1$, with $0 le n le N-1$.
b) The string does not contain one (or more) runs of three (or more) consecutive X
Consider a binary string with $s$ $X; leftrightarrow ,1$'s and $m$ $Z; leftrightarrow ,0$'s in total.
The number of these strings in which the runs of consecutive ones have a length not greater than $r$, is given by
$$N_{,b} (s,r,m+1) = text{No}text{. of solutions to};left{ begin{gathered}
0 leqslant text{integer }x_{,j} leqslant r hfill \
x_{,1} + x_{,2} + cdots + x_{,m+1} = s hfill \
end{gathered} right.$$
which is equal to
$$
N_b (s,r,m + 1)quad left| {;0 leqslant text{integers }s,m,r} right.quad
= sumlimits_{left( {0, leqslant } right),,k,,left( { leqslant ,frac{s}{r}, leqslant ,m + 1} right)}
{left( { - 1} right)^k left( begin{gathered}
m + 1 \
k \
end{gathered} right)left( begin{gathered}
s + m - kleft( {r + 1} right) \
s - kleft( {r + 1} right) \
end{gathered} right)}
$$
as thoroughly explained in this and this other posts.
In our case $r=2$, and for a string of length $n$ we shall put $m=n-s$ and sum for $0 le s le n$
$$
S(n)quad = sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),s,left( { le ,n} right)} {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),,k,,left( { le ,{s over 2},} right)}
{left( { - 1} right)^k binom{n-s+1}{k} binom{n-3k}{s-3k}
} }
$$
For $n=0,1,2,cdots ,6$ we obtain that $S(n)$ equals
$$1, 2, 4, 7, 13, 24, 44, cdots$$
c) Conclusion
Standing what said in point a) we can conclude that the sought number $T(N)$ is given by
$$
T(n) = S(N) + sumlimits_{0, le ,n, le ,N - 1} {S(n),S(N - 1 - n)}
$$
For $n=0,1,2,cdots ,8$ $T(n)$ results to be
$$1, 3, 8, 19, 43, 94, 200, 418, 861, cdots$$
which checks correctly with a direct count.
Thank you, I get it now! I appreciate it
– user3026388
2 days ago
glad it is useful, if you need any explanation just ask
– G Cab
2 days ago
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
a) Y cannot appear two or more times
Then
- if Y does not appear, we are left with a binary (X,Z) string of length $n=N$;
- if Y appears once, by removing it, we are left with two binary (X,Z) string of length $n$ and $N-n-1$, with $0 le n le N-1$.
b) The string does not contain one (or more) runs of three (or more) consecutive X
Consider a binary string with $s$ $X; leftrightarrow ,1$'s and $m$ $Z; leftrightarrow ,0$'s in total.
The number of these strings in which the runs of consecutive ones have a length not greater than $r$, is given by
$$N_{,b} (s,r,m+1) = text{No}text{. of solutions to};left{ begin{gathered}
0 leqslant text{integer }x_{,j} leqslant r hfill \
x_{,1} + x_{,2} + cdots + x_{,m+1} = s hfill \
end{gathered} right.$$
which is equal to
$$
N_b (s,r,m + 1)quad left| {;0 leqslant text{integers }s,m,r} right.quad
= sumlimits_{left( {0, leqslant } right),,k,,left( { leqslant ,frac{s}{r}, leqslant ,m + 1} right)}
{left( { - 1} right)^k left( begin{gathered}
m + 1 \
k \
end{gathered} right)left( begin{gathered}
s + m - kleft( {r + 1} right) \
s - kleft( {r + 1} right) \
end{gathered} right)}
$$
as thoroughly explained in this and this other posts.
In our case $r=2$, and for a string of length $n$ we shall put $m=n-s$ and sum for $0 le s le n$
$$
S(n)quad = sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),s,left( { le ,n} right)} {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),,k,,left( { le ,{s over 2},} right)}
{left( { - 1} right)^k binom{n-s+1}{k} binom{n-3k}{s-3k}
} }
$$
For $n=0,1,2,cdots ,6$ we obtain that $S(n)$ equals
$$1, 2, 4, 7, 13, 24, 44, cdots$$
c) Conclusion
Standing what said in point a) we can conclude that the sought number $T(N)$ is given by
$$
T(n) = S(N) + sumlimits_{0, le ,n, le ,N - 1} {S(n),S(N - 1 - n)}
$$
For $n=0,1,2,cdots ,8$ $T(n)$ results to be
$$1, 3, 8, 19, 43, 94, 200, 418, 861, cdots$$
which checks correctly with a direct count.
a) Y cannot appear two or more times
Then
- if Y does not appear, we are left with a binary (X,Z) string of length $n=N$;
- if Y appears once, by removing it, we are left with two binary (X,Z) string of length $n$ and $N-n-1$, with $0 le n le N-1$.
b) The string does not contain one (or more) runs of three (or more) consecutive X
Consider a binary string with $s$ $X; leftrightarrow ,1$'s and $m$ $Z; leftrightarrow ,0$'s in total.
The number of these strings in which the runs of consecutive ones have a length not greater than $r$, is given by
$$N_{,b} (s,r,m+1) = text{No}text{. of solutions to};left{ begin{gathered}
0 leqslant text{integer }x_{,j} leqslant r hfill \
x_{,1} + x_{,2} + cdots + x_{,m+1} = s hfill \
end{gathered} right.$$
which is equal to
$$
N_b (s,r,m + 1)quad left| {;0 leqslant text{integers }s,m,r} right.quad
= sumlimits_{left( {0, leqslant } right),,k,,left( { leqslant ,frac{s}{r}, leqslant ,m + 1} right)}
{left( { - 1} right)^k left( begin{gathered}
m + 1 \
k \
end{gathered} right)left( begin{gathered}
s + m - kleft( {r + 1} right) \
s - kleft( {r + 1} right) \
end{gathered} right)}
$$
as thoroughly explained in this and this other posts.
In our case $r=2$, and for a string of length $n$ we shall put $m=n-s$ and sum for $0 le s le n$
$$
S(n)quad = sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),s,left( { le ,n} right)} {sumlimits_{left( {0, le } right),,k,,left( { le ,{s over 2},} right)}
{left( { - 1} right)^k binom{n-s+1}{k} binom{n-3k}{s-3k}
} }
$$
For $n=0,1,2,cdots ,6$ we obtain that $S(n)$ equals
$$1, 2, 4, 7, 13, 24, 44, cdots$$
c) Conclusion
Standing what said in point a) we can conclude that the sought number $T(N)$ is given by
$$
T(n) = S(N) + sumlimits_{0, le ,n, le ,N - 1} {S(n),S(N - 1 - n)}
$$
For $n=0,1,2,cdots ,8$ $T(n)$ results to be
$$1, 3, 8, 19, 43, 94, 200, 418, 861, cdots$$
which checks correctly with a direct count.
edited Nov 22 at 0:54
answered Nov 22 at 0:38
G Cab
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Thank you, I get it now! I appreciate it
– user3026388
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glad it is useful, if you need any explanation just ask
– G Cab
2 days ago
Thank you, I get it now! I appreciate it
– user3026388
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Thank you, I get it now! I appreciate it
– user3026388
2 days ago
glad it is useful, if you need any explanation just ask
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To clarify, Y happens at most one time TOTAL, while X can happen many times, bot not three times in a row, correct?
– Todor Markov
Nov 20 at 12:44
1
This is a repeat of math.stackexchange.com/questions/2250558/… which is also equivalent to projecteuler.net/problem=191
– antkam
Nov 20 at 14:27
@TodorMarkov Yes, that is correct
– user3026388
Nov 20 at 16:37
Do you mean Y happens exactly twice or at least twice?
– Mostafa Ayaz
Nov 21 at 18:23
1
would like to know your feedback to my answer
– G Cab
2 days ago