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What method should I use to solve following equation for $x$ $$
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  • Just a heads up, as everyone is doing it, please refrain from using the tag "real-analysis" for whatever considers calculus. Real analysis is not calculus and not algebra or pre-algebra or whatever. Secondly, do you have any thoughts on the given problem ?
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  • Thank you for your remark. My idea was try to write it as $$sin(frac{1}{x})=x,$$ because $xneq 0$ and $sin$ is inverse to $arcsin$ on $[frac{-pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}]$.
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  • Yes, it's correct. The answer given below is smooth.
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What method should I use to solve following equation for $x$ $$
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    – Rebellos
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  • Thank you for your remark. My idea was try to write it as $$sin(frac{1}{x})=x,$$ because $xneq 0$ and $sin$ is inverse to $arcsin$ on $[frac{-pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}]$.
    – akap
    Nov 24 at 10:55












  • Yes, it's correct. The answer given below is smooth.
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 10:58













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What method should I use to solve following equation for $x$ $$
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  • Just a heads up, as everyone is doing it, please refrain from using the tag "real-analysis" for whatever considers calculus. Real analysis is not calculus and not algebra or pre-algebra or whatever. Secondly, do you have any thoughts on the given problem ?
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 10:49












  • Thank you for your remark. My idea was try to write it as $$sin(frac{1}{x})=x,$$ because $xneq 0$ and $sin$ is inverse to $arcsin$ on $[frac{-pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}]$.
    – akap
    Nov 24 at 10:55












  • Yes, it's correct. The answer given below is smooth.
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 10:58


















  • Just a heads up, as everyone is doing it, please refrain from using the tag "real-analysis" for whatever considers calculus. Real analysis is not calculus and not algebra or pre-algebra or whatever. Secondly, do you have any thoughts on the given problem ?
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 10:49












  • Thank you for your remark. My idea was try to write it as $$sin(frac{1}{x})=x,$$ because $xneq 0$ and $sin$ is inverse to $arcsin$ on $[frac{-pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}]$.
    – akap
    Nov 24 at 10:55












  • Yes, it's correct. The answer given below is smooth.
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 10:58
















Just a heads up, as everyone is doing it, please refrain from using the tag "real-analysis" for whatever considers calculus. Real analysis is not calculus and not algebra or pre-algebra or whatever. Secondly, do you have any thoughts on the given problem ?
– Rebellos
Nov 24 at 10:49






Just a heads up, as everyone is doing it, please refrain from using the tag "real-analysis" for whatever considers calculus. Real analysis is not calculus and not algebra or pre-algebra or whatever. Secondly, do you have any thoughts on the given problem ?
– Rebellos
Nov 24 at 10:49














Thank you for your remark. My idea was try to write it as $$sin(frac{1}{x})=x,$$ because $xneq 0$ and $sin$ is inverse to $arcsin$ on $[frac{-pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}]$.
– akap
Nov 24 at 10:55






Thank you for your remark. My idea was try to write it as $$sin(frac{1}{x})=x,$$ because $xneq 0$ and $sin$ is inverse to $arcsin$ on $[frac{-pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}]$.
– akap
Nov 24 at 10:55














Yes, it's correct. The answer given below is smooth.
– Rebellos
Nov 24 at 10:58




Yes, it's correct. The answer given below is smooth.
– Rebellos
Nov 24 at 10:58










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$$xarcsin x = 1 implies arcsin x = frac{1}{x} implies sin frac{1}{x} = x$$



There isn't a good way to solve this, so I guess you can estimate using the MacLaurin expansion of $sin x$.



$$sin x = x-frac{x^3}{3!}+frac{x^5}{5!}-... implies sin frac{1}{x} = frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{3!x^3}+frac{1}{5!x^5}-...$$



You can truncate the series at a point to estimate for $x$. For example, you can solve



$$frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{3!x^3} = x$$



which gives $x approx pm0.888$ (true) and $x approx pm0.46$ (extraneous). You can use more terms for a more accurate estimate.






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  • The value $pm 0.46$ doesn't hold.
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  • Yeah, I labelled it as extraneous.
    – KM101
    Nov 24 at 10:59






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    It needs some justification on why it shall not be accepted (my opinion). Generally it's a bad exercise from the start, your solution elaboration is smooth (+1).
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    No problem! (And yes, it's not a very good exercise.) I also accidentally forgot to edit the expansion for $sin frac{1}{x}$, which I've now done. (In case it caused any confusion or anything.)
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$$xarcsin x = 1 implies arcsin x = frac{1}{x} implies sin frac{1}{x} = x$$



There isn't a good way to solve this, so I guess you can estimate using the MacLaurin expansion of $sin x$.



$$sin x = x-frac{x^3}{3!}+frac{x^5}{5!}-... implies sin frac{1}{x} = frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{3!x^3}+frac{1}{5!x^5}-...$$



You can truncate the series at a point to estimate for $x$. For example, you can solve



$$frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{3!x^3} = x$$



which gives $x approx pm0.888$ (true) and $x approx pm0.46$ (extraneous). You can use more terms for a more accurate estimate.






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  • The value $pm 0.46$ doesn't hold.
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 10:59










  • Yeah, I labelled it as extraneous.
    – KM101
    Nov 24 at 10:59






  • 2




    It needs some justification on why it shall not be accepted (my opinion). Generally it's a bad exercise from the start, your solution elaboration is smooth (+1).
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 11:00






  • 2




    No problem! (And yes, it's not a very good exercise.) I also accidentally forgot to edit the expansion for $sin frac{1}{x}$, which I've now done. (In case it caused any confusion or anything.)
    – KM101
    Nov 24 at 11:01

















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$$xarcsin x = 1 implies arcsin x = frac{1}{x} implies sin frac{1}{x} = x$$



There isn't a good way to solve this, so I guess you can estimate using the MacLaurin expansion of $sin x$.



$$sin x = x-frac{x^3}{3!}+frac{x^5}{5!}-... implies sin frac{1}{x} = frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{3!x^3}+frac{1}{5!x^5}-...$$



You can truncate the series at a point to estimate for $x$. For example, you can solve



$$frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{3!x^3} = x$$



which gives $x approx pm0.888$ (true) and $x approx pm0.46$ (extraneous). You can use more terms for a more accurate estimate.






share|cite|improve this answer























  • The value $pm 0.46$ doesn't hold.
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 10:59










  • Yeah, I labelled it as extraneous.
    – KM101
    Nov 24 at 10:59






  • 2




    It needs some justification on why it shall not be accepted (my opinion). Generally it's a bad exercise from the start, your solution elaboration is smooth (+1).
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 11:00






  • 2




    No problem! (And yes, it's not a very good exercise.) I also accidentally forgot to edit the expansion for $sin frac{1}{x}$, which I've now done. (In case it caused any confusion or anything.)
    – KM101
    Nov 24 at 11:01















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$$xarcsin x = 1 implies arcsin x = frac{1}{x} implies sin frac{1}{x} = x$$



There isn't a good way to solve this, so I guess you can estimate using the MacLaurin expansion of $sin x$.



$$sin x = x-frac{x^3}{3!}+frac{x^5}{5!}-... implies sin frac{1}{x} = frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{3!x^3}+frac{1}{5!x^5}-...$$



You can truncate the series at a point to estimate for $x$. For example, you can solve



$$frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{3!x^3} = x$$



which gives $x approx pm0.888$ (true) and $x approx pm0.46$ (extraneous). You can use more terms for a more accurate estimate.






share|cite|improve this answer














$$xarcsin x = 1 implies arcsin x = frac{1}{x} implies sin frac{1}{x} = x$$



There isn't a good way to solve this, so I guess you can estimate using the MacLaurin expansion of $sin x$.



$$sin x = x-frac{x^3}{3!}+frac{x^5}{5!}-... implies sin frac{1}{x} = frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{3!x^3}+frac{1}{5!x^5}-...$$



You can truncate the series at a point to estimate for $x$. For example, you can solve



$$frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{3!x^3} = x$$



which gives $x approx pm0.888$ (true) and $x approx pm0.46$ (extraneous). You can use more terms for a more accurate estimate.







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  • The value $pm 0.46$ doesn't hold.
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 10:59










  • Yeah, I labelled it as extraneous.
    – KM101
    Nov 24 at 10:59






  • 2




    It needs some justification on why it shall not be accepted (my opinion). Generally it's a bad exercise from the start, your solution elaboration is smooth (+1).
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 11:00






  • 2




    No problem! (And yes, it's not a very good exercise.) I also accidentally forgot to edit the expansion for $sin frac{1}{x}$, which I've now done. (In case it caused any confusion or anything.)
    – KM101
    Nov 24 at 11:01




















  • The value $pm 0.46$ doesn't hold.
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 10:59










  • Yeah, I labelled it as extraneous.
    – KM101
    Nov 24 at 10:59






  • 2




    It needs some justification on why it shall not be accepted (my opinion). Generally it's a bad exercise from the start, your solution elaboration is smooth (+1).
    – Rebellos
    Nov 24 at 11:00






  • 2




    No problem! (And yes, it's not a very good exercise.) I also accidentally forgot to edit the expansion for $sin frac{1}{x}$, which I've now done. (In case it caused any confusion or anything.)
    – KM101
    Nov 24 at 11:01


















The value $pm 0.46$ doesn't hold.
– Rebellos
Nov 24 at 10:59




The value $pm 0.46$ doesn't hold.
– Rebellos
Nov 24 at 10:59












Yeah, I labelled it as extraneous.
– KM101
Nov 24 at 10:59




Yeah, I labelled it as extraneous.
– KM101
Nov 24 at 10:59




2




2




It needs some justification on why it shall not be accepted (my opinion). Generally it's a bad exercise from the start, your solution elaboration is smooth (+1).
– Rebellos
Nov 24 at 11:00




It needs some justification on why it shall not be accepted (my opinion). Generally it's a bad exercise from the start, your solution elaboration is smooth (+1).
– Rebellos
Nov 24 at 11:00




2




2




No problem! (And yes, it's not a very good exercise.) I also accidentally forgot to edit the expansion for $sin frac{1}{x}$, which I've now done. (In case it caused any confusion or anything.)
– KM101
Nov 24 at 11:01






No problem! (And yes, it's not a very good exercise.) I also accidentally forgot to edit the expansion for $sin frac{1}{x}$, which I've now done. (In case it caused any confusion or anything.)
– KM101
Nov 24 at 11:01




















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