Proving this integral as a function of $t$ is continuous?
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So let $h$ be a function bounded by $M$, so that $|h|< M$.
Also let $g$ be a continuous and non-negative functions.
Define:
$$f(t) = int_0^t g(u-t)h(u) du$$
How can I show $f(t)$ is continuous in $t$? I know that normal integrals are continuous (when the integrated function does not depend on $t$). And since $g$ is continuous it seems like it would be true. But I am struggling to show it.
I have been trying to show it using the normal $epsilon, delta$ definition by trying to find a bound above for
$$|f(t)-f(s)|$$
So that $|t-s| < delta implies |f(t)-f(s)| leq epsilon$, but when I try to do this, the upper bound I get might be negative, which means this is not necessarily true. This is not a homework question, I am working through some textbook proofs, and want to fill in the blanks that are omitted in the proofs as I really struggle with analysis.
I found a previous question here but I do not think it answers my question. As the bounds are not part of the function there.
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So let $h$ be a function bounded by $M$, so that $|h|< M$.
Also let $g$ be a continuous and non-negative functions.
Define:
$$f(t) = int_0^t g(u-t)h(u) du$$
How can I show $f(t)$ is continuous in $t$? I know that normal integrals are continuous (when the integrated function does not depend on $t$). And since $g$ is continuous it seems like it would be true. But I am struggling to show it.
I have been trying to show it using the normal $epsilon, delta$ definition by trying to find a bound above for
$$|f(t)-f(s)|$$
So that $|t-s| < delta implies |f(t)-f(s)| leq epsilon$, but when I try to do this, the upper bound I get might be negative, which means this is not necessarily true. This is not a homework question, I am working through some textbook proofs, and want to fill in the blanks that are omitted in the proofs as I really struggle with analysis.
I found a previous question here but I do not think it answers my question. As the bounds are not part of the function there.
real-analysis functional-analysis analysis
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So let $h$ be a function bounded by $M$, so that $|h|< M$.
Also let $g$ be a continuous and non-negative functions.
Define:
$$f(t) = int_0^t g(u-t)h(u) du$$
How can I show $f(t)$ is continuous in $t$? I know that normal integrals are continuous (when the integrated function does not depend on $t$). And since $g$ is continuous it seems like it would be true. But I am struggling to show it.
I have been trying to show it using the normal $epsilon, delta$ definition by trying to find a bound above for
$$|f(t)-f(s)|$$
So that $|t-s| < delta implies |f(t)-f(s)| leq epsilon$, but when I try to do this, the upper bound I get might be negative, which means this is not necessarily true. This is not a homework question, I am working through some textbook proofs, and want to fill in the blanks that are omitted in the proofs as I really struggle with analysis.
I found a previous question here but I do not think it answers my question. As the bounds are not part of the function there.
real-analysis functional-analysis analysis
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So let $h$ be a function bounded by $M$, so that $|h|< M$.
Also let $g$ be a continuous and non-negative functions.
Define:
$$f(t) = int_0^t g(u-t)h(u) du$$
How can I show $f(t)$ is continuous in $t$? I know that normal integrals are continuous (when the integrated function does not depend on $t$). And since $g$ is continuous it seems like it would be true. But I am struggling to show it.
I have been trying to show it using the normal $epsilon, delta$ definition by trying to find a bound above for
$$|f(t)-f(s)|$$
So that $|t-s| < delta implies |f(t)-f(s)| leq epsilon$, but when I try to do this, the upper bound I get might be negative, which means this is not necessarily true. This is not a homework question, I am working through some textbook proofs, and want to fill in the blanks that are omitted in the proofs as I really struggle with analysis.
I found a previous question here but I do not think it answers my question. As the bounds are not part of the function there.
real-analysis functional-analysis analysis
real-analysis functional-analysis analysis
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Hint:
$$eqalign{|f(t) - f(s)| &= left|int_0^t g(u-t) h(u) ; du - int_0^s g(u-s) h(u); duright|cr
&le left|int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s))h(u); duright| +left| int_s^t g(u-t) h(u); duright|}$$
Now use the fact that on a bounded interval, $g$ is bounded and uniformly continuous.
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Thats what I got originally. But I don't understand how I can guarantee that the RHS won't make $epsilon - RHS$ negative using the uniform continuity of $g$. Isn't it possible that $epsilon - |int_0^s dots du|$ will be negative for certain $s$?
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– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 1:03
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If you choose $delta > 0$ appropriately, you can make each term on the right less than $epsilon/2$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:49
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Thus, uniform continuity says for any $eta > 0$ there is $delta > 0$ such that $|x-y| < delta$ implies $|g(x)-g(y)|<eta$. Then $int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s)) h(u); du < eta M s$. So you want $eta < epsilon/(2Ms)$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:53
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Oh I see! Thank you!
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– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 4:27
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Hint:
$$eqalign{|f(t) - f(s)| &= left|int_0^t g(u-t) h(u) ; du - int_0^s g(u-s) h(u); duright|cr
&le left|int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s))h(u); duright| +left| int_s^t g(u-t) h(u); duright|}$$
Now use the fact that on a bounded interval, $g$ is bounded and uniformly continuous.
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Thats what I got originally. But I don't understand how I can guarantee that the RHS won't make $epsilon - RHS$ negative using the uniform continuity of $g$. Isn't it possible that $epsilon - |int_0^s dots du|$ will be negative for certain $s$?
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– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 1:03
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If you choose $delta > 0$ appropriately, you can make each term on the right less than $epsilon/2$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:49
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Thus, uniform continuity says for any $eta > 0$ there is $delta > 0$ such that $|x-y| < delta$ implies $|g(x)-g(y)|<eta$. Then $int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s)) h(u); du < eta M s$. So you want $eta < epsilon/(2Ms)$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:53
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Oh I see! Thank you!
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– Xiaomi
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Hint:
$$eqalign{|f(t) - f(s)| &= left|int_0^t g(u-t) h(u) ; du - int_0^s g(u-s) h(u); duright|cr
&le left|int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s))h(u); duright| +left| int_s^t g(u-t) h(u); duright|}$$
Now use the fact that on a bounded interval, $g$ is bounded and uniformly continuous.
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Thats what I got originally. But I don't understand how I can guarantee that the RHS won't make $epsilon - RHS$ negative using the uniform continuity of $g$. Isn't it possible that $epsilon - |int_0^s dots du|$ will be negative for certain $s$?
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– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 1:03
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If you choose $delta > 0$ appropriately, you can make each term on the right less than $epsilon/2$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:49
$begingroup$
Thus, uniform continuity says for any $eta > 0$ there is $delta > 0$ such that $|x-y| < delta$ implies $|g(x)-g(y)|<eta$. Then $int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s)) h(u); du < eta M s$. So you want $eta < epsilon/(2Ms)$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:53
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Oh I see! Thank you!
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– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 4:27
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Hint:
$$eqalign{|f(t) - f(s)| &= left|int_0^t g(u-t) h(u) ; du - int_0^s g(u-s) h(u); duright|cr
&le left|int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s))h(u); duright| +left| int_s^t g(u-t) h(u); duright|}$$
Now use the fact that on a bounded interval, $g$ is bounded and uniformly continuous.
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Hint:
$$eqalign{|f(t) - f(s)| &= left|int_0^t g(u-t) h(u) ; du - int_0^s g(u-s) h(u); duright|cr
&le left|int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s))h(u); duright| +left| int_s^t g(u-t) h(u); duright|}$$
Now use the fact that on a bounded interval, $g$ is bounded and uniformly continuous.
answered Dec 13 '18 at 0:50
Robert IsraelRobert Israel
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Thats what I got originally. But I don't understand how I can guarantee that the RHS won't make $epsilon - RHS$ negative using the uniform continuity of $g$. Isn't it possible that $epsilon - |int_0^s dots du|$ will be negative for certain $s$?
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– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 1:03
$begingroup$
If you choose $delta > 0$ appropriately, you can make each term on the right less than $epsilon/2$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:49
$begingroup$
Thus, uniform continuity says for any $eta > 0$ there is $delta > 0$ such that $|x-y| < delta$ implies $|g(x)-g(y)|<eta$. Then $int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s)) h(u); du < eta M s$. So you want $eta < epsilon/(2Ms)$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:53
$begingroup$
Oh I see! Thank you!
$endgroup$
– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 4:27
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Thats what I got originally. But I don't understand how I can guarantee that the RHS won't make $epsilon - RHS$ negative using the uniform continuity of $g$. Isn't it possible that $epsilon - |int_0^s dots du|$ will be negative for certain $s$?
$endgroup$
– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 1:03
$begingroup$
If you choose $delta > 0$ appropriately, you can make each term on the right less than $epsilon/2$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:49
$begingroup$
Thus, uniform continuity says for any $eta > 0$ there is $delta > 0$ such that $|x-y| < delta$ implies $|g(x)-g(y)|<eta$. Then $int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s)) h(u); du < eta M s$. So you want $eta < epsilon/(2Ms)$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:53
$begingroup$
Oh I see! Thank you!
$endgroup$
– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 4:27
$begingroup$
Thats what I got originally. But I don't understand how I can guarantee that the RHS won't make $epsilon - RHS$ negative using the uniform continuity of $g$. Isn't it possible that $epsilon - |int_0^s dots du|$ will be negative for certain $s$?
$endgroup$
– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 1:03
$begingroup$
Thats what I got originally. But I don't understand how I can guarantee that the RHS won't make $epsilon - RHS$ negative using the uniform continuity of $g$. Isn't it possible that $epsilon - |int_0^s dots du|$ will be negative for certain $s$?
$endgroup$
– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 1:03
$begingroup$
If you choose $delta > 0$ appropriately, you can make each term on the right less than $epsilon/2$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:49
$begingroup$
If you choose $delta > 0$ appropriately, you can make each term on the right less than $epsilon/2$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:49
$begingroup$
Thus, uniform continuity says for any $eta > 0$ there is $delta > 0$ such that $|x-y| < delta$ implies $|g(x)-g(y)|<eta$. Then $int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s)) h(u); du < eta M s$. So you want $eta < epsilon/(2Ms)$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:53
$begingroup$
Thus, uniform continuity says for any $eta > 0$ there is $delta > 0$ such that $|x-y| < delta$ implies $|g(x)-g(y)|<eta$. Then $int_0^s (g(u-t) - g(u-s)) h(u); du < eta M s$. So you want $eta < epsilon/(2Ms)$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 13 '18 at 2:53
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Oh I see! Thank you!
$endgroup$
– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 4:27
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Oh I see! Thank you!
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– Xiaomi
Dec 13 '18 at 4:27
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