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Let $X$ and $Y$ be i.i.d. random variables with Expo($1$), and let $Z = | X - Y |$. Find the CDF and PDF of $Z$.






My attempt



begin{align}
F_Z(z) & = P(Z le z)\
& = P(|X - Y| le z) \
& = P(-z le X - Y le z) \
& = P(X - Y le z) - P(X - Y le -z) \
& = P(X le Y + z) - P(X le Y - z) \
& = F_X(Y + z) - F_X(Y - z) \
& = (1 - e^{-(Y + z)}) - (1 - e^{-(Y - z)}) \
& = e^{-(Y - z)} - e^{-(Y + z)} \
end{align}






begin{align}
f_Z(z) & = frac{d}{dz}F_Z(z) \
& = frac{d}{dz}(e^{-(Y-z)} - e^{-(Y + z)}) \
& = e^{-(Y - z)} + e^{-(Y + z)} \
end{align}






The problems/questions that I have are




  1. I'm not sure if this approach is even correct. I'm sure that I have to find the CDF first then differentiate it, but is this the correct way?


  2. How do I handle the $Y$ in the final equations?



Thank you.










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    I'm studying probability theory and came across an exercise problem that I would like to request some help with. Here's the problem:






    Let $X$ and $Y$ be i.i.d. random variables with Expo($1$), and let $Z = | X - Y |$. Find the CDF and PDF of $Z$.






    My attempt



    begin{align}
    F_Z(z) & = P(Z le z)\
    & = P(|X - Y| le z) \
    & = P(-z le X - Y le z) \
    & = P(X - Y le z) - P(X - Y le -z) \
    & = P(X le Y + z) - P(X le Y - z) \
    & = F_X(Y + z) - F_X(Y - z) \
    & = (1 - e^{-(Y + z)}) - (1 - e^{-(Y - z)}) \
    & = e^{-(Y - z)} - e^{-(Y + z)} \
    end{align}






    begin{align}
    f_Z(z) & = frac{d}{dz}F_Z(z) \
    & = frac{d}{dz}(e^{-(Y-z)} - e^{-(Y + z)}) \
    & = e^{-(Y - z)} + e^{-(Y + z)} \
    end{align}






    The problems/questions that I have are




    1. I'm not sure if this approach is even correct. I'm sure that I have to find the CDF first then differentiate it, but is this the correct way?


    2. How do I handle the $Y$ in the final equations?



    Thank you.










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      I'm studying probability theory and came across an exercise problem that I would like to request some help with. Here's the problem:






      Let $X$ and $Y$ be i.i.d. random variables with Expo($1$), and let $Z = | X - Y |$. Find the CDF and PDF of $Z$.






      My attempt



      begin{align}
      F_Z(z) & = P(Z le z)\
      & = P(|X - Y| le z) \
      & = P(-z le X - Y le z) \
      & = P(X - Y le z) - P(X - Y le -z) \
      & = P(X le Y + z) - P(X le Y - z) \
      & = F_X(Y + z) - F_X(Y - z) \
      & = (1 - e^{-(Y + z)}) - (1 - e^{-(Y - z)}) \
      & = e^{-(Y - z)} - e^{-(Y + z)} \
      end{align}






      begin{align}
      f_Z(z) & = frac{d}{dz}F_Z(z) \
      & = frac{d}{dz}(e^{-(Y-z)} - e^{-(Y + z)}) \
      & = e^{-(Y - z)} + e^{-(Y + z)} \
      end{align}






      The problems/questions that I have are




      1. I'm not sure if this approach is even correct. I'm sure that I have to find the CDF first then differentiate it, but is this the correct way?


      2. How do I handle the $Y$ in the final equations?



      Thank you.










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      I'm studying probability theory and came across an exercise problem that I would like to request some help with. Here's the problem:






      Let $X$ and $Y$ be i.i.d. random variables with Expo($1$), and let $Z = | X - Y |$. Find the CDF and PDF of $Z$.






      My attempt



      begin{align}
      F_Z(z) & = P(Z le z)\
      & = P(|X - Y| le z) \
      & = P(-z le X - Y le z) \
      & = P(X - Y le z) - P(X - Y le -z) \
      & = P(X le Y + z) - P(X le Y - z) \
      & = F_X(Y + z) - F_X(Y - z) \
      & = (1 - e^{-(Y + z)}) - (1 - e^{-(Y - z)}) \
      & = e^{-(Y - z)} - e^{-(Y + z)} \
      end{align}






      begin{align}
      f_Z(z) & = frac{d}{dz}F_Z(z) \
      & = frac{d}{dz}(e^{-(Y-z)} - e^{-(Y + z)}) \
      & = e^{-(Y - z)} + e^{-(Y + z)} \
      end{align}






      The problems/questions that I have are




      1. I'm not sure if this approach is even correct. I'm sure that I have to find the CDF first then differentiate it, but is this the correct way?


      2. How do I handle the $Y$ in the final equations?



      Thank you.







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          Sadly, your answer cannot be correct because the random variable $Y$ remains in your CDF and PDF. The CDF of $Z$ should be only a function of $z$ and the parameters.



          Your initial approach is sound, however. Let's see how to complete it.



          $$Pr[Z le z] = Pr[X le Y + z] - Pr[X le Y - z]$$ is correct. Now, let's see how to attack each term on the right. We have
          $$Pr[X le Y + z] = int_{y=0}^infty Pr[X le y + z] f_Y(y) , dy,$$ by the law of total probability. This in turn yields $$Pr[X le Y + z] = int_{y=0}^infty (1 - e^{-(y+z)}) e^{-y} , dy = 1 - e^{-z}/2.$$ Similarly, $$Pr[X le Y - z] = int_{y=0}^infty Pr[X le y - z]f_Y(y) , dy.$$ However, you must be careful here. Whereas in the first case we had no issues with $y + z < 0$, since $y$ and $z$ must both be nonnegative, in this situation we could have $0 le y < z$, in which case $Pr[X le y-z] = 0$, because $X$ cannot be negative. Consequently, we can write this as $$Pr[X le Y - z] = int_{y=z}^infty Pr[X le y-z] f_Y(y) , dy,$$ noting that the lower limit of integration can begin at $y = z$, since on the interval $y in [0,z)$, the integrand is zero.



          I have left the remaining calculations as an exercise. What is your result? Is it surprising? If so, how might you go about verifying it?






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            Since $Z > 0$ a.s. we can assume that $z > 0$ in $P(Z leq z)$. Then you get $P(X leq Y +z) - P(X leq Y -z)$. Since $X$ and $Y$ are exponentialy distributed they are a.s. positive, so $Y + z > 0$ therefore part $P(X leq Y+z)$ is fine. On the other hand we must be careful with $P(X leq Y-z)$. Since total probability rule
            begin{align}
            P(X leq Y-z) & = P(X leq Y-z |Y leq z)P(Yleq z) + P(X leq Y-z |Y> z)P(Y>z) \
            & = P(Xleq Y-z|Y > z)P(Y>z)
            end{align}

            But what is $P(X leq Y-z)$? It is some number between 0 an 1 dependent only on parameter $z$. But it involves two random variables, so just as in one dimensional case where you integrate density over subcpace of real line to get $P(X leq z)$, here we must integrate joint densities of both random variables over some subspace of plane (since $X$ and $Y$ are independent we can take product of their densities instead). So
            begin{align}
            P(X leq Y -z) & = int_z^{infty} int_0^{y-z} e^{-y}e^{-x}dx dy \
            & = -left(frac{e^{-z}}{2}-e^{-z}right)
            end{align}



            In same way, only that we integrate over different region, we get $P(X leq Y+z) = -left(frac{1}{2}e^{-z}-1right)$. Then when you take in account that $P(Y > z ) = e^{-z}$ everything else is just elementary computation.



            To get PDF you must of course differentiate CDF of $Z$ (in fact $Z$ must be absolutely continuous but in this, as in most cases, it is). But again CDF and PDF respectively must be functions of only $z$.






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              Sadly, your answer cannot be correct because the random variable $Y$ remains in your CDF and PDF. The CDF of $Z$ should be only a function of $z$ and the parameters.



              Your initial approach is sound, however. Let's see how to complete it.



              $$Pr[Z le z] = Pr[X le Y + z] - Pr[X le Y - z]$$ is correct. Now, let's see how to attack each term on the right. We have
              $$Pr[X le Y + z] = int_{y=0}^infty Pr[X le y + z] f_Y(y) , dy,$$ by the law of total probability. This in turn yields $$Pr[X le Y + z] = int_{y=0}^infty (1 - e^{-(y+z)}) e^{-y} , dy = 1 - e^{-z}/2.$$ Similarly, $$Pr[X le Y - z] = int_{y=0}^infty Pr[X le y - z]f_Y(y) , dy.$$ However, you must be careful here. Whereas in the first case we had no issues with $y + z < 0$, since $y$ and $z$ must both be nonnegative, in this situation we could have $0 le y < z$, in which case $Pr[X le y-z] = 0$, because $X$ cannot be negative. Consequently, we can write this as $$Pr[X le Y - z] = int_{y=z}^infty Pr[X le y-z] f_Y(y) , dy,$$ noting that the lower limit of integration can begin at $y = z$, since on the interval $y in [0,z)$, the integrand is zero.



              I have left the remaining calculations as an exercise. What is your result? Is it surprising? If so, how might you go about verifying it?






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                Sadly, your answer cannot be correct because the random variable $Y$ remains in your CDF and PDF. The CDF of $Z$ should be only a function of $z$ and the parameters.



                Your initial approach is sound, however. Let's see how to complete it.



                $$Pr[Z le z] = Pr[X le Y + z] - Pr[X le Y - z]$$ is correct. Now, let's see how to attack each term on the right. We have
                $$Pr[X le Y + z] = int_{y=0}^infty Pr[X le y + z] f_Y(y) , dy,$$ by the law of total probability. This in turn yields $$Pr[X le Y + z] = int_{y=0}^infty (1 - e^{-(y+z)}) e^{-y} , dy = 1 - e^{-z}/2.$$ Similarly, $$Pr[X le Y - z] = int_{y=0}^infty Pr[X le y - z]f_Y(y) , dy.$$ However, you must be careful here. Whereas in the first case we had no issues with $y + z < 0$, since $y$ and $z$ must both be nonnegative, in this situation we could have $0 le y < z$, in which case $Pr[X le y-z] = 0$, because $X$ cannot be negative. Consequently, we can write this as $$Pr[X le Y - z] = int_{y=z}^infty Pr[X le y-z] f_Y(y) , dy,$$ noting that the lower limit of integration can begin at $y = z$, since on the interval $y in [0,z)$, the integrand is zero.



                I have left the remaining calculations as an exercise. What is your result? Is it surprising? If so, how might you go about verifying it?






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                  Sadly, your answer cannot be correct because the random variable $Y$ remains in your CDF and PDF. The CDF of $Z$ should be only a function of $z$ and the parameters.



                  Your initial approach is sound, however. Let's see how to complete it.



                  $$Pr[Z le z] = Pr[X le Y + z] - Pr[X le Y - z]$$ is correct. Now, let's see how to attack each term on the right. We have
                  $$Pr[X le Y + z] = int_{y=0}^infty Pr[X le y + z] f_Y(y) , dy,$$ by the law of total probability. This in turn yields $$Pr[X le Y + z] = int_{y=0}^infty (1 - e^{-(y+z)}) e^{-y} , dy = 1 - e^{-z}/2.$$ Similarly, $$Pr[X le Y - z] = int_{y=0}^infty Pr[X le y - z]f_Y(y) , dy.$$ However, you must be careful here. Whereas in the first case we had no issues with $y + z < 0$, since $y$ and $z$ must both be nonnegative, in this situation we could have $0 le y < z$, in which case $Pr[X le y-z] = 0$, because $X$ cannot be negative. Consequently, we can write this as $$Pr[X le Y - z] = int_{y=z}^infty Pr[X le y-z] f_Y(y) , dy,$$ noting that the lower limit of integration can begin at $y = z$, since on the interval $y in [0,z)$, the integrand is zero.



                  I have left the remaining calculations as an exercise. What is your result? Is it surprising? If so, how might you go about verifying it?






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                  Sadly, your answer cannot be correct because the random variable $Y$ remains in your CDF and PDF. The CDF of $Z$ should be only a function of $z$ and the parameters.



                  Your initial approach is sound, however. Let's see how to complete it.



                  $$Pr[Z le z] = Pr[X le Y + z] - Pr[X le Y - z]$$ is correct. Now, let's see how to attack each term on the right. We have
                  $$Pr[X le Y + z] = int_{y=0}^infty Pr[X le y + z] f_Y(y) , dy,$$ by the law of total probability. This in turn yields $$Pr[X le Y + z] = int_{y=0}^infty (1 - e^{-(y+z)}) e^{-y} , dy = 1 - e^{-z}/2.$$ Similarly, $$Pr[X le Y - z] = int_{y=0}^infty Pr[X le y - z]f_Y(y) , dy.$$ However, you must be careful here. Whereas in the first case we had no issues with $y + z < 0$, since $y$ and $z$ must both be nonnegative, in this situation we could have $0 le y < z$, in which case $Pr[X le y-z] = 0$, because $X$ cannot be negative. Consequently, we can write this as $$Pr[X le Y - z] = int_{y=z}^infty Pr[X le y-z] f_Y(y) , dy,$$ noting that the lower limit of integration can begin at $y = z$, since on the interval $y in [0,z)$, the integrand is zero.



                  I have left the remaining calculations as an exercise. What is your result? Is it surprising? If so, how might you go about verifying it?







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                      Since $Z > 0$ a.s. we can assume that $z > 0$ in $P(Z leq z)$. Then you get $P(X leq Y +z) - P(X leq Y -z)$. Since $X$ and $Y$ are exponentialy distributed they are a.s. positive, so $Y + z > 0$ therefore part $P(X leq Y+z)$ is fine. On the other hand we must be careful with $P(X leq Y-z)$. Since total probability rule
                      begin{align}
                      P(X leq Y-z) & = P(X leq Y-z |Y leq z)P(Yleq z) + P(X leq Y-z |Y> z)P(Y>z) \
                      & = P(Xleq Y-z|Y > z)P(Y>z)
                      end{align}

                      But what is $P(X leq Y-z)$? It is some number between 0 an 1 dependent only on parameter $z$. But it involves two random variables, so just as in one dimensional case where you integrate density over subcpace of real line to get $P(X leq z)$, here we must integrate joint densities of both random variables over some subspace of plane (since $X$ and $Y$ are independent we can take product of their densities instead). So
                      begin{align}
                      P(X leq Y -z) & = int_z^{infty} int_0^{y-z} e^{-y}e^{-x}dx dy \
                      & = -left(frac{e^{-z}}{2}-e^{-z}right)
                      end{align}



                      In same way, only that we integrate over different region, we get $P(X leq Y+z) = -left(frac{1}{2}e^{-z}-1right)$. Then when you take in account that $P(Y > z ) = e^{-z}$ everything else is just elementary computation.



                      To get PDF you must of course differentiate CDF of $Z$ (in fact $Z$ must be absolutely continuous but in this, as in most cases, it is). But again CDF and PDF respectively must be functions of only $z$.






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                        Since $Z > 0$ a.s. we can assume that $z > 0$ in $P(Z leq z)$. Then you get $P(X leq Y +z) - P(X leq Y -z)$. Since $X$ and $Y$ are exponentialy distributed they are a.s. positive, so $Y + z > 0$ therefore part $P(X leq Y+z)$ is fine. On the other hand we must be careful with $P(X leq Y-z)$. Since total probability rule
                        begin{align}
                        P(X leq Y-z) & = P(X leq Y-z |Y leq z)P(Yleq z) + P(X leq Y-z |Y> z)P(Y>z) \
                        & = P(Xleq Y-z|Y > z)P(Y>z)
                        end{align}

                        But what is $P(X leq Y-z)$? It is some number between 0 an 1 dependent only on parameter $z$. But it involves two random variables, so just as in one dimensional case where you integrate density over subcpace of real line to get $P(X leq z)$, here we must integrate joint densities of both random variables over some subspace of plane (since $X$ and $Y$ are independent we can take product of their densities instead). So
                        begin{align}
                        P(X leq Y -z) & = int_z^{infty} int_0^{y-z} e^{-y}e^{-x}dx dy \
                        & = -left(frac{e^{-z}}{2}-e^{-z}right)
                        end{align}



                        In same way, only that we integrate over different region, we get $P(X leq Y+z) = -left(frac{1}{2}e^{-z}-1right)$. Then when you take in account that $P(Y > z ) = e^{-z}$ everything else is just elementary computation.



                        To get PDF you must of course differentiate CDF of $Z$ (in fact $Z$ must be absolutely continuous but in this, as in most cases, it is). But again CDF and PDF respectively must be functions of only $z$.






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                          Since $Z > 0$ a.s. we can assume that $z > 0$ in $P(Z leq z)$. Then you get $P(X leq Y +z) - P(X leq Y -z)$. Since $X$ and $Y$ are exponentialy distributed they are a.s. positive, so $Y + z > 0$ therefore part $P(X leq Y+z)$ is fine. On the other hand we must be careful with $P(X leq Y-z)$. Since total probability rule
                          begin{align}
                          P(X leq Y-z) & = P(X leq Y-z |Y leq z)P(Yleq z) + P(X leq Y-z |Y> z)P(Y>z) \
                          & = P(Xleq Y-z|Y > z)P(Y>z)
                          end{align}

                          But what is $P(X leq Y-z)$? It is some number between 0 an 1 dependent only on parameter $z$. But it involves two random variables, so just as in one dimensional case where you integrate density over subcpace of real line to get $P(X leq z)$, here we must integrate joint densities of both random variables over some subspace of plane (since $X$ and $Y$ are independent we can take product of their densities instead). So
                          begin{align}
                          P(X leq Y -z) & = int_z^{infty} int_0^{y-z} e^{-y}e^{-x}dx dy \
                          & = -left(frac{e^{-z}}{2}-e^{-z}right)
                          end{align}



                          In same way, only that we integrate over different region, we get $P(X leq Y+z) = -left(frac{1}{2}e^{-z}-1right)$. Then when you take in account that $P(Y > z ) = e^{-z}$ everything else is just elementary computation.



                          To get PDF you must of course differentiate CDF of $Z$ (in fact $Z$ must be absolutely continuous but in this, as in most cases, it is). But again CDF and PDF respectively must be functions of only $z$.






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                          Since $Z > 0$ a.s. we can assume that $z > 0$ in $P(Z leq z)$. Then you get $P(X leq Y +z) - P(X leq Y -z)$. Since $X$ and $Y$ are exponentialy distributed they are a.s. positive, so $Y + z > 0$ therefore part $P(X leq Y+z)$ is fine. On the other hand we must be careful with $P(X leq Y-z)$. Since total probability rule
                          begin{align}
                          P(X leq Y-z) & = P(X leq Y-z |Y leq z)P(Yleq z) + P(X leq Y-z |Y> z)P(Y>z) \
                          & = P(Xleq Y-z|Y > z)P(Y>z)
                          end{align}

                          But what is $P(X leq Y-z)$? It is some number between 0 an 1 dependent only on parameter $z$. But it involves two random variables, so just as in one dimensional case where you integrate density over subcpace of real line to get $P(X leq z)$, here we must integrate joint densities of both random variables over some subspace of plane (since $X$ and $Y$ are independent we can take product of their densities instead). So
                          begin{align}
                          P(X leq Y -z) & = int_z^{infty} int_0^{y-z} e^{-y}e^{-x}dx dy \
                          & = -left(frac{e^{-z}}{2}-e^{-z}right)
                          end{align}



                          In same way, only that we integrate over different region, we get $P(X leq Y+z) = -left(frac{1}{2}e^{-z}-1right)$. Then when you take in account that $P(Y > z ) = e^{-z}$ everything else is just elementary computation.



                          To get PDF you must of course differentiate CDF of $Z$ (in fact $Z$ must be absolutely continuous but in this, as in most cases, it is). But again CDF and PDF respectively must be functions of only $z$.







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