Prove point is in closure of set












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Consider the set $M={ (1,x,x^2):x in mathbb{R}}$.



We define $text{cone}(M)$ as the conic hull of $M$, which admits conic combinations of its points, i.e. $sum_i lambda_i(1,x_i,x_i^2)in M$ where $lambda_i>=0 forall i$.



We can apparently see that $(0,0,1)intext{cl(cone(}M))$, the closure of the conic hull of $M$. The proof is simple:



$$
begin{align}
(0,0,1)&= lim_{xrightarrow infty}Big(dfrac{1}{x^2},dfrac{1}{x},1Big)\
&=lim_{xrightarrow infty}dfrac{1}{x^2}(1,x,x^2)
end{align}.
$$



But I don't understand it. Can someone explain why the limit of $dfrac{1}{x^2}times(text{an element of M})$ gives an element in the closure of $text{cone}(M)$?










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    Well what you have is a sequence of elements of $Cone(M)$. In $mathbb R^n$ that implies that the limit will be a in the cosure for sure.
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    – Dog_69
    Dec 1 '18 at 21:16
















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$begingroup$


Consider the set $M={ (1,x,x^2):x in mathbb{R}}$.



We define $text{cone}(M)$ as the conic hull of $M$, which admits conic combinations of its points, i.e. $sum_i lambda_i(1,x_i,x_i^2)in M$ where $lambda_i>=0 forall i$.



We can apparently see that $(0,0,1)intext{cl(cone(}M))$, the closure of the conic hull of $M$. The proof is simple:



$$
begin{align}
(0,0,1)&= lim_{xrightarrow infty}Big(dfrac{1}{x^2},dfrac{1}{x},1Big)\
&=lim_{xrightarrow infty}dfrac{1}{x^2}(1,x,x^2)
end{align}.
$$



But I don't understand it. Can someone explain why the limit of $dfrac{1}{x^2}times(text{an element of M})$ gives an element in the closure of $text{cone}(M)$?










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    Well what you have is a sequence of elements of $Cone(M)$. In $mathbb R^n$ that implies that the limit will be a in the cosure for sure.
    $endgroup$
    – Dog_69
    Dec 1 '18 at 21:16














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$begingroup$


Consider the set $M={ (1,x,x^2):x in mathbb{R}}$.



We define $text{cone}(M)$ as the conic hull of $M$, which admits conic combinations of its points, i.e. $sum_i lambda_i(1,x_i,x_i^2)in M$ where $lambda_i>=0 forall i$.



We can apparently see that $(0,0,1)intext{cl(cone(}M))$, the closure of the conic hull of $M$. The proof is simple:



$$
begin{align}
(0,0,1)&= lim_{xrightarrow infty}Big(dfrac{1}{x^2},dfrac{1}{x},1Big)\
&=lim_{xrightarrow infty}dfrac{1}{x^2}(1,x,x^2)
end{align}.
$$



But I don't understand it. Can someone explain why the limit of $dfrac{1}{x^2}times(text{an element of M})$ gives an element in the closure of $text{cone}(M)$?










share|cite|improve this question









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Consider the set $M={ (1,x,x^2):x in mathbb{R}}$.



We define $text{cone}(M)$ as the conic hull of $M$, which admits conic combinations of its points, i.e. $sum_i lambda_i(1,x_i,x_i^2)in M$ where $lambda_i>=0 forall i$.



We can apparently see that $(0,0,1)intext{cl(cone(}M))$, the closure of the conic hull of $M$. The proof is simple:



$$
begin{align}
(0,0,1)&= lim_{xrightarrow infty}Big(dfrac{1}{x^2},dfrac{1}{x},1Big)\
&=lim_{xrightarrow infty}dfrac{1}{x^2}(1,x,x^2)
end{align}.
$$



But I don't understand it. Can someone explain why the limit of $dfrac{1}{x^2}times(text{an element of M})$ gives an element in the closure of $text{cone}(M)$?







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    Well what you have is a sequence of elements of $Cone(M)$. In $mathbb R^n$ that implies that the limit will be a in the cosure for sure.
    $endgroup$
    – Dog_69
    Dec 1 '18 at 21:16


















  • $begingroup$
    Well what you have is a sequence of elements of $Cone(M)$. In $mathbb R^n$ that implies that the limit will be a in the cosure for sure.
    $endgroup$
    – Dog_69
    Dec 1 '18 at 21:16
















$begingroup$
Well what you have is a sequence of elements of $Cone(M)$. In $mathbb R^n$ that implies that the limit will be a in the cosure for sure.
$endgroup$
– Dog_69
Dec 1 '18 at 21:16




$begingroup$
Well what you have is a sequence of elements of $Cone(M)$. In $mathbb R^n$ that implies that the limit will be a in the cosure for sure.
$endgroup$
– Dog_69
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Let x $in$ $mathbb{R}$ and $lambda$ = $frac{1}{x^2}$. Then p = $lambda(1,x,x^2) = (frac{1}{x^2},frac{1}{x},1)$. Note that p $in$ cone(M) $forall$ x $in mathbb{R}$. Now take the limit as x goes to 0. This is a sequence of point in cone(M); thus the limit point is in cl(cone(M)).






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    Let x $in$ $mathbb{R}$ and $lambda$ = $frac{1}{x^2}$. Then p = $lambda(1,x,x^2) = (frac{1}{x^2},frac{1}{x},1)$. Note that p $in$ cone(M) $forall$ x $in mathbb{R}$. Now take the limit as x goes to 0. This is a sequence of point in cone(M); thus the limit point is in cl(cone(M)).






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      Let x $in$ $mathbb{R}$ and $lambda$ = $frac{1}{x^2}$. Then p = $lambda(1,x,x^2) = (frac{1}{x^2},frac{1}{x},1)$. Note that p $in$ cone(M) $forall$ x $in mathbb{R}$. Now take the limit as x goes to 0. This is a sequence of point in cone(M); thus the limit point is in cl(cone(M)).






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        Let x $in$ $mathbb{R}$ and $lambda$ = $frac{1}{x^2}$. Then p = $lambda(1,x,x^2) = (frac{1}{x^2},frac{1}{x},1)$. Note that p $in$ cone(M) $forall$ x $in mathbb{R}$. Now take the limit as x goes to 0. This is a sequence of point in cone(M); thus the limit point is in cl(cone(M)).






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        Let x $in$ $mathbb{R}$ and $lambda$ = $frac{1}{x^2}$. Then p = $lambda(1,x,x^2) = (frac{1}{x^2},frac{1}{x},1)$. Note that p $in$ cone(M) $forall$ x $in mathbb{R}$. Now take the limit as x goes to 0. This is a sequence of point in cone(M); thus the limit point is in cl(cone(M)).







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