Two supermartingales and a stopping time












4












$begingroup$


I have the following task to do:



Let $(X_n)$ and $(Y_n)$ be two supermartingales on the probability space $(Omega, mathcal{A}, P)$ and $T$ be a stopping time regarding a filtration $(mathcal{F}_n)$ and $X_T leq Y_T$ on ${T< infty}$.



Define $Z_n = Y_n$ on ${n<T}$ and $Z_n = X_n$ on ${T leq n}$.



Proof that $(Z_n)$ is a supermartingale.



I tried to use $Z_n = Y_nI_{{n<T}} + X_nI_{{Tleq n}}$ and plug that into $mathbb{E}[Z_n|mathcal{F_{n-1}}]$ and use some properties of the conditional expectation, but I don't seem to get to $leq Z_{n-1}$.



Any help is appreciated.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    On behalf of @hosam ahmad: this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course Authors: Gut, Allan springer.com/la/book/9781441919854
    $endgroup$
    – dantopa
    Dec 20 '18 at 19:40
















4












$begingroup$


I have the following task to do:



Let $(X_n)$ and $(Y_n)$ be two supermartingales on the probability space $(Omega, mathcal{A}, P)$ and $T$ be a stopping time regarding a filtration $(mathcal{F}_n)$ and $X_T leq Y_T$ on ${T< infty}$.



Define $Z_n = Y_n$ on ${n<T}$ and $Z_n = X_n$ on ${T leq n}$.



Proof that $(Z_n)$ is a supermartingale.



I tried to use $Z_n = Y_nI_{{n<T}} + X_nI_{{Tleq n}}$ and plug that into $mathbb{E}[Z_n|mathcal{F_{n-1}}]$ and use some properties of the conditional expectation, but I don't seem to get to $leq Z_{n-1}$.



Any help is appreciated.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    On behalf of @hosam ahmad: this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course Authors: Gut, Allan springer.com/la/book/9781441919854
    $endgroup$
    – dantopa
    Dec 20 '18 at 19:40














4












4








4





$begingroup$


I have the following task to do:



Let $(X_n)$ and $(Y_n)$ be two supermartingales on the probability space $(Omega, mathcal{A}, P)$ and $T$ be a stopping time regarding a filtration $(mathcal{F}_n)$ and $X_T leq Y_T$ on ${T< infty}$.



Define $Z_n = Y_n$ on ${n<T}$ and $Z_n = X_n$ on ${T leq n}$.



Proof that $(Z_n)$ is a supermartingale.



I tried to use $Z_n = Y_nI_{{n<T}} + X_nI_{{Tleq n}}$ and plug that into $mathbb{E}[Z_n|mathcal{F_{n-1}}]$ and use some properties of the conditional expectation, but I don't seem to get to $leq Z_{n-1}$.



Any help is appreciated.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




I have the following task to do:



Let $(X_n)$ and $(Y_n)$ be two supermartingales on the probability space $(Omega, mathcal{A}, P)$ and $T$ be a stopping time regarding a filtration $(mathcal{F}_n)$ and $X_T leq Y_T$ on ${T< infty}$.



Define $Z_n = Y_n$ on ${n<T}$ and $Z_n = X_n$ on ${T leq n}$.



Proof that $(Z_n)$ is a supermartingale.



I tried to use $Z_n = Y_nI_{{n<T}} + X_nI_{{Tleq n}}$ and plug that into $mathbb{E}[Z_n|mathcal{F_{n-1}}]$ and use some properties of the conditional expectation, but I don't seem to get to $leq Z_{n-1}$.



Any help is appreciated.







probability probability-theory conditional-expectation martingales stopping-times






share|cite|improve this question















share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question








edited Jun 9 '18 at 3:37









saz

81.8k862130




81.8k862130










asked Jun 8 '18 at 18:34









thatha

1185




1185












  • $begingroup$
    On behalf of @hosam ahmad: this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course Authors: Gut, Allan springer.com/la/book/9781441919854
    $endgroup$
    – dantopa
    Dec 20 '18 at 19:40


















  • $begingroup$
    On behalf of @hosam ahmad: this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course Authors: Gut, Allan springer.com/la/book/9781441919854
    $endgroup$
    – dantopa
    Dec 20 '18 at 19:40
















$begingroup$
On behalf of @hosam ahmad: this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course Authors: Gut, Allan springer.com/la/book/9781441919854
$endgroup$
– dantopa
Dec 20 '18 at 19:40




$begingroup$
On behalf of @hosam ahmad: this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course Authors: Gut, Allan springer.com/la/book/9781441919854
$endgroup$
– dantopa
Dec 20 '18 at 19:40










2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes


















2












$begingroup$

Note that $X_T leq Y_T$ implies that



$$begin{align*} X_n 1_{{T leq n}} = X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}} + X_T 1_{{T=n}} &leq X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}+ Y_T 1_{{T =n}} \ &= X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}+ Y_n 1_{{T =n}}. end{align*}$$



Thus,



$$Z_n leq Y_{n} 1_{{T leq n-1}^c} + X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}.$$



Now use that $(Y_{n})_{n in mathbb{N}}$ and $(X_n)_{n in mathbb{N}}$ are supermartingales and the fact that ${T leq n-1} in mathcal{F}_{n-1}$ to conclude that



$$mathbb{E}(Z_n mid mathcal{F}_{n-1}) leq Z_{n-1}.$$






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    Thank you for your answer, but I have to ask how do you conclude $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{Tleq n-1}^c} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$? I have $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{nleq T}} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$.
    $endgroup$
    – tha
    Jun 8 '18 at 21:41








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @tha That's exactly the same thing, isn't it? Note that ${n leq T} = {T geq n} = {T leq n-1}^c$.
    $endgroup$
    – saz
    Jun 9 '18 at 3:37










  • $begingroup$
    Oh yes, that was my fault. Everything is good, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – tha
    Jun 9 '18 at 8:39



















0












$begingroup$

this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course
Authors: Gut, Allan



https://www.springer.com/la/book/9781441919854






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$













    Your Answer





    StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
    return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
    StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
    StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
    });
    });
    }, "mathjax-editing");

    StackExchange.ready(function() {
    var channelOptions = {
    tags: "".split(" "),
    id: "69"
    };
    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
    createEditor();
    });
    }
    else {
    createEditor();
    }
    });

    function createEditor() {
    StackExchange.prepareEditor({
    heartbeatType: 'answer',
    autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
    convertImagesToLinks: true,
    noModals: true,
    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
    reputationToPostImages: 10,
    bindNavPrevention: true,
    postfix: "",
    imageUploader: {
    brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
    contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
    allowUrls: true
    },
    noCode: true, onDemand: true,
    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
    });


    }
    });














    draft saved

    draft discarded


















    StackExchange.ready(
    function () {
    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2812799%2ftwo-supermartingales-and-a-stopping-time%23new-answer', 'question_page');
    }
    );

    Post as a guest















    Required, but never shown

























    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes








    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes









    2












    $begingroup$

    Note that $X_T leq Y_T$ implies that



    $$begin{align*} X_n 1_{{T leq n}} = X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}} + X_T 1_{{T=n}} &leq X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}+ Y_T 1_{{T =n}} \ &= X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}+ Y_n 1_{{T =n}}. end{align*}$$



    Thus,



    $$Z_n leq Y_{n} 1_{{T leq n-1}^c} + X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}.$$



    Now use that $(Y_{n})_{n in mathbb{N}}$ and $(X_n)_{n in mathbb{N}}$ are supermartingales and the fact that ${T leq n-1} in mathcal{F}_{n-1}$ to conclude that



    $$mathbb{E}(Z_n mid mathcal{F}_{n-1}) leq Z_{n-1}.$$






    share|cite|improve this answer











    $endgroup$













    • $begingroup$
      Thank you for your answer, but I have to ask how do you conclude $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{Tleq n-1}^c} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$? I have $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{nleq T}} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$.
      $endgroup$
      – tha
      Jun 8 '18 at 21:41








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @tha That's exactly the same thing, isn't it? Note that ${n leq T} = {T geq n} = {T leq n-1}^c$.
      $endgroup$
      – saz
      Jun 9 '18 at 3:37










    • $begingroup$
      Oh yes, that was my fault. Everything is good, thank you.
      $endgroup$
      – tha
      Jun 9 '18 at 8:39
















    2












    $begingroup$

    Note that $X_T leq Y_T$ implies that



    $$begin{align*} X_n 1_{{T leq n}} = X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}} + X_T 1_{{T=n}} &leq X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}+ Y_T 1_{{T =n}} \ &= X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}+ Y_n 1_{{T =n}}. end{align*}$$



    Thus,



    $$Z_n leq Y_{n} 1_{{T leq n-1}^c} + X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}.$$



    Now use that $(Y_{n})_{n in mathbb{N}}$ and $(X_n)_{n in mathbb{N}}$ are supermartingales and the fact that ${T leq n-1} in mathcal{F}_{n-1}$ to conclude that



    $$mathbb{E}(Z_n mid mathcal{F}_{n-1}) leq Z_{n-1}.$$






    share|cite|improve this answer











    $endgroup$













    • $begingroup$
      Thank you for your answer, but I have to ask how do you conclude $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{Tleq n-1}^c} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$? I have $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{nleq T}} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$.
      $endgroup$
      – tha
      Jun 8 '18 at 21:41








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @tha That's exactly the same thing, isn't it? Note that ${n leq T} = {T geq n} = {T leq n-1}^c$.
      $endgroup$
      – saz
      Jun 9 '18 at 3:37










    • $begingroup$
      Oh yes, that was my fault. Everything is good, thank you.
      $endgroup$
      – tha
      Jun 9 '18 at 8:39














    2












    2








    2





    $begingroup$

    Note that $X_T leq Y_T$ implies that



    $$begin{align*} X_n 1_{{T leq n}} = X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}} + X_T 1_{{T=n}} &leq X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}+ Y_T 1_{{T =n}} \ &= X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}+ Y_n 1_{{T =n}}. end{align*}$$



    Thus,



    $$Z_n leq Y_{n} 1_{{T leq n-1}^c} + X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}.$$



    Now use that $(Y_{n})_{n in mathbb{N}}$ and $(X_n)_{n in mathbb{N}}$ are supermartingales and the fact that ${T leq n-1} in mathcal{F}_{n-1}$ to conclude that



    $$mathbb{E}(Z_n mid mathcal{F}_{n-1}) leq Z_{n-1}.$$






    share|cite|improve this answer











    $endgroup$



    Note that $X_T leq Y_T$ implies that



    $$begin{align*} X_n 1_{{T leq n}} = X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}} + X_T 1_{{T=n}} &leq X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}+ Y_T 1_{{T =n}} \ &= X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}+ Y_n 1_{{T =n}}. end{align*}$$



    Thus,



    $$Z_n leq Y_{n} 1_{{T leq n-1}^c} + X_n 1_{{T leq n-1}}.$$



    Now use that $(Y_{n})_{n in mathbb{N}}$ and $(X_n)_{n in mathbb{N}}$ are supermartingales and the fact that ${T leq n-1} in mathcal{F}_{n-1}$ to conclude that



    $$mathbb{E}(Z_n mid mathcal{F}_{n-1}) leq Z_{n-1}.$$







    share|cite|improve this answer














    share|cite|improve this answer



    share|cite|improve this answer








    edited Jun 8 '18 at 20:03

























    answered Jun 8 '18 at 19:38









    sazsaz

    81.8k862130




    81.8k862130












    • $begingroup$
      Thank you for your answer, but I have to ask how do you conclude $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{Tleq n-1}^c} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$? I have $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{nleq T}} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$.
      $endgroup$
      – tha
      Jun 8 '18 at 21:41








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @tha That's exactly the same thing, isn't it? Note that ${n leq T} = {T geq n} = {T leq n-1}^c$.
      $endgroup$
      – saz
      Jun 9 '18 at 3:37










    • $begingroup$
      Oh yes, that was my fault. Everything is good, thank you.
      $endgroup$
      – tha
      Jun 9 '18 at 8:39


















    • $begingroup$
      Thank you for your answer, but I have to ask how do you conclude $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{Tleq n-1}^c} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$? I have $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{nleq T}} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$.
      $endgroup$
      – tha
      Jun 8 '18 at 21:41








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @tha That's exactly the same thing, isn't it? Note that ${n leq T} = {T geq n} = {T leq n-1}^c$.
      $endgroup$
      – saz
      Jun 9 '18 at 3:37










    • $begingroup$
      Oh yes, that was my fault. Everything is good, thank you.
      $endgroup$
      – tha
      Jun 9 '18 at 8:39
















    $begingroup$
    Thank you for your answer, but I have to ask how do you conclude $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{Tleq n-1}^c} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$? I have $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{nleq T}} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$.
    $endgroup$
    – tha
    Jun 8 '18 at 21:41






    $begingroup$
    Thank you for your answer, but I have to ask how do you conclude $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{Tleq n-1}^c} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$? I have $Z_n leq Y_n 1_{{nleq T}} + X_n1_{{Tleq n-1}}$.
    $endgroup$
    – tha
    Jun 8 '18 at 21:41






    1




    1




    $begingroup$
    @tha That's exactly the same thing, isn't it? Note that ${n leq T} = {T geq n} = {T leq n-1}^c$.
    $endgroup$
    – saz
    Jun 9 '18 at 3:37




    $begingroup$
    @tha That's exactly the same thing, isn't it? Note that ${n leq T} = {T geq n} = {T leq n-1}^c$.
    $endgroup$
    – saz
    Jun 9 '18 at 3:37












    $begingroup$
    Oh yes, that was my fault. Everything is good, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – tha
    Jun 9 '18 at 8:39




    $begingroup$
    Oh yes, that was my fault. Everything is good, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – tha
    Jun 9 '18 at 8:39











    0












    $begingroup$

    this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course
    Authors: Gut, Allan



    https://www.springer.com/la/book/9781441919854






    share|cite|improve this answer









    $endgroup$


















      0












      $begingroup$

      this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course
      Authors: Gut, Allan



      https://www.springer.com/la/book/9781441919854






      share|cite|improve this answer









      $endgroup$
















        0












        0








        0





        $begingroup$

        this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course
        Authors: Gut, Allan



        https://www.springer.com/la/book/9781441919854






        share|cite|improve this answer









        $endgroup$



        this is a theorem 8.1 page 498 in Probability: A Graduate Course
        Authors: Gut, Allan



        https://www.springer.com/la/book/9781441919854







        share|cite|improve this answer












        share|cite|improve this answer



        share|cite|improve this answer










        answered Dec 20 '18 at 18:10









        hosam ahmadhosam ahmad

        84




        84






























            draft saved

            draft discarded




















































            Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


            • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

            But avoid



            • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

            • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


            Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


            To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




            draft saved


            draft discarded














            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2812799%2ftwo-supermartingales-and-a-stopping-time%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown





















































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown

































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown







            Popular posts from this blog

            Bundesstraße 106

            Verónica Boquete

            Ida-Boy-Ed-Garten