Finding $lim_{n to infty} 1+ 1/2 + 1/3 +dots +1/n - log n$. [duplicate]
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$$x_n = 1 + 1/2 +dots +1/n- log n$$
Then -
$1.$ Is the sequence increasing?
$2.$ is the sequence convergent?
For $(1)$, $sum 1/n$ is increasing and $log n $ is also increasing. First few terms are increasing, but i don't know about later terms.
$(2)$ $n^{th}$ term of the sequence can be written as $a_n = (sum_{i=1}^{n}) - log n$
So, $lim_{nto infty} a_n = lim_{n to infty} sum 1/n -lim_{n to infty} log n$
Neither first part nor second is convergent here. so i could not conclude anything.
How to solve?
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$$x_n = 1 + 1/2 +dots +1/n- log n$$
Then -
$1.$ Is the sequence increasing?
$2.$ is the sequence convergent?
For $(1)$, $sum 1/n$ is increasing and $log n $ is also increasing. First few terms are increasing, but i don't know about later terms.
$(2)$ $n^{th}$ term of the sequence can be written as $a_n = (sum_{i=1}^{n}) - log n$
So, $lim_{nto infty} a_n = lim_{n to infty} sum 1/n -lim_{n to infty} log n$
Neither first part nor second is convergent here. so i could not conclude anything.
How to solve?
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The sequence is found here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E2%80%93Mascheroni_constant
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– Zacky
Dec 24 '18 at 14:49
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Hint: consider that $log n = int_{1}^{n} frac{dx}{x}$. You can obtain the relevant estimates via Riemann sums.
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– MathematicsStudent1122
Dec 24 '18 at 14:56
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You have to be careful: $lim_n (a_n- b_n) = lim_n a_n - lim_n b_n$ is not true when $lim_n a_n =lim_n b_n=infty$.
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Dec 24 '18 at 16:19
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@Mircea , that's why I left the problem there.
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$$x_n = 1 + 1/2 +dots +1/n- log n$$
Then -
$1.$ Is the sequence increasing?
$2.$ is the sequence convergent?
For $(1)$, $sum 1/n$ is increasing and $log n $ is also increasing. First few terms are increasing, but i don't know about later terms.
$(2)$ $n^{th}$ term of the sequence can be written as $a_n = (sum_{i=1}^{n}) - log n$
So, $lim_{nto infty} a_n = lim_{n to infty} sum 1/n -lim_{n to infty} log n$
Neither first part nor second is convergent here. so i could not conclude anything.
How to solve?
real-analysis
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Simple proof Euler–Mascheroni $gamma$ constant
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$$x_n = 1 + 1/2 +dots +1/n- log n$$
Then -
$1.$ Is the sequence increasing?
$2.$ is the sequence convergent?
For $(1)$, $sum 1/n$ is increasing and $log n $ is also increasing. First few terms are increasing, but i don't know about later terms.
$(2)$ $n^{th}$ term of the sequence can be written as $a_n = (sum_{i=1}^{n}) - log n$
So, $lim_{nto infty} a_n = lim_{n to infty} sum 1/n -lim_{n to infty} log n$
Neither first part nor second is convergent here. so i could not conclude anything.
How to solve?
This question already has an answer here:
Simple proof Euler–Mascheroni $gamma$ constant
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The sequence is found here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E2%80%93Mascheroni_constant
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– Zacky
Dec 24 '18 at 14:49
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Hint: consider that $log n = int_{1}^{n} frac{dx}{x}$. You can obtain the relevant estimates via Riemann sums.
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– MathematicsStudent1122
Dec 24 '18 at 14:56
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You have to be careful: $lim_n (a_n- b_n) = lim_n a_n - lim_n b_n$ is not true when $lim_n a_n =lim_n b_n=infty$.
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– Mircea
Dec 24 '18 at 16:19
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@Mircea , that's why I left the problem there.
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Dec 24 '18 at 16:29
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The sequence is found here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E2%80%93Mascheroni_constant
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– Zacky
Dec 24 '18 at 14:49
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Hint: consider that $log n = int_{1}^{n} frac{dx}{x}$. You can obtain the relevant estimates via Riemann sums.
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– MathematicsStudent1122
Dec 24 '18 at 14:56
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You have to be careful: $lim_n (a_n- b_n) = lim_n a_n - lim_n b_n$ is not true when $lim_n a_n =lim_n b_n=infty$.
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– Mircea
Dec 24 '18 at 16:19
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@Mircea , that's why I left the problem there.
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– Mathsaddict
Dec 24 '18 at 16:29
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The sequence is found here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E2%80%93Mascheroni_constant
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– Zacky
Dec 24 '18 at 14:49
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The sequence is found here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E2%80%93Mascheroni_constant
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– Zacky
Dec 24 '18 at 14:49
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Hint: consider that $log n = int_{1}^{n} frac{dx}{x}$. You can obtain the relevant estimates via Riemann sums.
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– MathematicsStudent1122
Dec 24 '18 at 14:56
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Hint: consider that $log n = int_{1}^{n} frac{dx}{x}$. You can obtain the relevant estimates via Riemann sums.
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– MathematicsStudent1122
Dec 24 '18 at 14:56
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You have to be careful: $lim_n (a_n- b_n) = lim_n a_n - lim_n b_n$ is not true when $lim_n a_n =lim_n b_n=infty$.
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– Mircea
Dec 24 '18 at 16:19
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You have to be careful: $lim_n (a_n- b_n) = lim_n a_n - lim_n b_n$ is not true when $lim_n a_n =lim_n b_n=infty$.
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– Mircea
Dec 24 '18 at 16:19
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@Mircea , that's why I left the problem there.
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Dec 24 '18 at 16:29
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@Mircea , that's why I left the problem there.
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This sequences converges to the Euler–Mascheroni constant.
It’s very important in number theory.
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Let $x_n=-log(n)+sum_{k=1}^n frac1k$. Then, using $log(1+x)ge frac{x}{1+x}$, we see that
$$begin{align}
x_{n+1}-x_n&=frac1{n+1}-logleft(1+frac1nright)\\
&le frac1{n+1}-frac{1}{n+1}\\
&=0
end{align}$$
and $x_n$ is decreasing.
Next, we can estimate the harmonic sum as $sum_{k=1}^n frac1kge frac12 sum_{k=1}^{n-1}left(frac1k+frac1{k+1}right)$, which represents the Trapezoidal Rule approximation of $int_1^n frac1x,dx$.
Inasmuch as $frac1x$ is convex, the trapezoidal rule approximation overestimates the integral of $frac1x$ and we have
$$sum_{k=1}^nfrac1k-log(n)ge sum_{k=1}^n frac1k -log(n)-frac12-frac1{2n}ge0 $$
whence we see that
$$x_nge frac12$$
Since $x_n$ is decreasing and bounded below by $frac12$, the sequence $x_n$ converges.
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This sequences converges to the Euler–Mascheroni constant.
It’s very important in number theory.
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This sequences converges to the Euler–Mascheroni constant.
It’s very important in number theory.
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This sequences converges to the Euler–Mascheroni constant.
It’s very important in number theory.
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This sequences converges to the Euler–Mascheroni constant.
It’s very important in number theory.
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Let $x_n=-log(n)+sum_{k=1}^n frac1k$. Then, using $log(1+x)ge frac{x}{1+x}$, we see that
$$begin{align}
x_{n+1}-x_n&=frac1{n+1}-logleft(1+frac1nright)\\
&le frac1{n+1}-frac{1}{n+1}\\
&=0
end{align}$$
and $x_n$ is decreasing.
Next, we can estimate the harmonic sum as $sum_{k=1}^n frac1kge frac12 sum_{k=1}^{n-1}left(frac1k+frac1{k+1}right)$, which represents the Trapezoidal Rule approximation of $int_1^n frac1x,dx$.
Inasmuch as $frac1x$ is convex, the trapezoidal rule approximation overestimates the integral of $frac1x$ and we have
$$sum_{k=1}^nfrac1k-log(n)ge sum_{k=1}^n frac1k -log(n)-frac12-frac1{2n}ge0 $$
whence we see that
$$x_nge frac12$$
Since $x_n$ is decreasing and bounded below by $frac12$, the sequence $x_n$ converges.
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Let $x_n=-log(n)+sum_{k=1}^n frac1k$. Then, using $log(1+x)ge frac{x}{1+x}$, we see that
$$begin{align}
x_{n+1}-x_n&=frac1{n+1}-logleft(1+frac1nright)\\
&le frac1{n+1}-frac{1}{n+1}\\
&=0
end{align}$$
and $x_n$ is decreasing.
Next, we can estimate the harmonic sum as $sum_{k=1}^n frac1kge frac12 sum_{k=1}^{n-1}left(frac1k+frac1{k+1}right)$, which represents the Trapezoidal Rule approximation of $int_1^n frac1x,dx$.
Inasmuch as $frac1x$ is convex, the trapezoidal rule approximation overestimates the integral of $frac1x$ and we have
$$sum_{k=1}^nfrac1k-log(n)ge sum_{k=1}^n frac1k -log(n)-frac12-frac1{2n}ge0 $$
whence we see that
$$x_nge frac12$$
Since $x_n$ is decreasing and bounded below by $frac12$, the sequence $x_n$ converges.
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Let $x_n=-log(n)+sum_{k=1}^n frac1k$. Then, using $log(1+x)ge frac{x}{1+x}$, we see that
$$begin{align}
x_{n+1}-x_n&=frac1{n+1}-logleft(1+frac1nright)\\
&le frac1{n+1}-frac{1}{n+1}\\
&=0
end{align}$$
and $x_n$ is decreasing.
Next, we can estimate the harmonic sum as $sum_{k=1}^n frac1kge frac12 sum_{k=1}^{n-1}left(frac1k+frac1{k+1}right)$, which represents the Trapezoidal Rule approximation of $int_1^n frac1x,dx$.
Inasmuch as $frac1x$ is convex, the trapezoidal rule approximation overestimates the integral of $frac1x$ and we have
$$sum_{k=1}^nfrac1k-log(n)ge sum_{k=1}^n frac1k -log(n)-frac12-frac1{2n}ge0 $$
whence we see that
$$x_nge frac12$$
Since $x_n$ is decreasing and bounded below by $frac12$, the sequence $x_n$ converges.
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Let $x_n=-log(n)+sum_{k=1}^n frac1k$. Then, using $log(1+x)ge frac{x}{1+x}$, we see that
$$begin{align}
x_{n+1}-x_n&=frac1{n+1}-logleft(1+frac1nright)\\
&le frac1{n+1}-frac{1}{n+1}\\
&=0
end{align}$$
and $x_n$ is decreasing.
Next, we can estimate the harmonic sum as $sum_{k=1}^n frac1kge frac12 sum_{k=1}^{n-1}left(frac1k+frac1{k+1}right)$, which represents the Trapezoidal Rule approximation of $int_1^n frac1x,dx$.
Inasmuch as $frac1x$ is convex, the trapezoidal rule approximation overestimates the integral of $frac1x$ and we have
$$sum_{k=1}^nfrac1k-log(n)ge sum_{k=1}^n frac1k -log(n)-frac12-frac1{2n}ge0 $$
whence we see that
$$x_nge frac12$$
Since $x_n$ is decreasing and bounded below by $frac12$, the sequence $x_n$ converges.
answered Dec 24 '18 at 17:42
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The sequence is found here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E2%80%93Mascheroni_constant
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– Zacky
Dec 24 '18 at 14:49
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Hint: consider that $log n = int_{1}^{n} frac{dx}{x}$. You can obtain the relevant estimates via Riemann sums.
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– MathematicsStudent1122
Dec 24 '18 at 14:56
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You have to be careful: $lim_n (a_n- b_n) = lim_n a_n - lim_n b_n$ is not true when $lim_n a_n =lim_n b_n=infty$.
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– Mircea
Dec 24 '18 at 16:19
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@Mircea , that's why I left the problem there.
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– Mathsaddict
Dec 24 '18 at 16:29