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A smooth bead of mass 100g is threaded on a light inextensible string of length 70 cm. The string has one end attached to a fixed point A and the other to a fixed point B 50 cm vertically below A. The bead moves in a horizontal circle about the line AB with a constant angular speed of $omega$ rad/s, and the string taut. If the bead is at a point C on the string with AC = 40 cm, find the value of $omega$ and the tension in the string.



Because its a 3-4-5 triangle, I found the horizontal rotation plane to be 0.18m above B, and therefore 0.32m below A. The radius is then 0.24m. I found this by extending AC to 6.25m. I then resolve the vertical and horizontal forces and found $omega$ to be 4.88 rad/s. I`m however not sure about this answer as books says 16.9, 4.9N.



Any help would be appreciated.



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  • Could you add a picture or a more detailed description. I am especially stuck on this sentence "The bead moves in a horizontal circle about the line AB".
    – maxmilgram
    Nov 19 at 11:49










  • @maxmilgram, I hope that helps
    – tas75
    Nov 19 at 12:04










  • I don't get your answer or the answer in the book. I'll post my free body diagram in the answer because it won't post in the comments.
    – Phil H
    Nov 19 at 15:52










  • See revised answer, same as the book.
    – Phil H
    Nov 19 at 19:24










  • @Phil H, thanks for confirming the books answer
    – tas75
    Nov 19 at 20:12















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Below is the question I'm not sure I've properly solved.



A smooth bead of mass 100g is threaded on a light inextensible string of length 70 cm. The string has one end attached to a fixed point A and the other to a fixed point B 50 cm vertically below A. The bead moves in a horizontal circle about the line AB with a constant angular speed of $omega$ rad/s, and the string taut. If the bead is at a point C on the string with AC = 40 cm, find the value of $omega$ and the tension in the string.



Because its a 3-4-5 triangle, I found the horizontal rotation plane to be 0.18m above B, and therefore 0.32m below A. The radius is then 0.24m. I found this by extending AC to 6.25m. I then resolve the vertical and horizontal forces and found $omega$ to be 4.88 rad/s. I`m however not sure about this answer as books says 16.9, 4.9N.



Any help would be appreciated.



Here is an image to help.



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  • Could you add a picture or a more detailed description. I am especially stuck on this sentence "The bead moves in a horizontal circle about the line AB".
    – maxmilgram
    Nov 19 at 11:49










  • @maxmilgram, I hope that helps
    – tas75
    Nov 19 at 12:04










  • I don't get your answer or the answer in the book. I'll post my free body diagram in the answer because it won't post in the comments.
    – Phil H
    Nov 19 at 15:52










  • See revised answer, same as the book.
    – Phil H
    Nov 19 at 19:24










  • @Phil H, thanks for confirming the books answer
    – tas75
    Nov 19 at 20:12













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Below is the question I'm not sure I've properly solved.



A smooth bead of mass 100g is threaded on a light inextensible string of length 70 cm. The string has one end attached to a fixed point A and the other to a fixed point B 50 cm vertically below A. The bead moves in a horizontal circle about the line AB with a constant angular speed of $omega$ rad/s, and the string taut. If the bead is at a point C on the string with AC = 40 cm, find the value of $omega$ and the tension in the string.



Because its a 3-4-5 triangle, I found the horizontal rotation plane to be 0.18m above B, and therefore 0.32m below A. The radius is then 0.24m. I found this by extending AC to 6.25m. I then resolve the vertical and horizontal forces and found $omega$ to be 4.88 rad/s. I`m however not sure about this answer as books says 16.9, 4.9N.



Any help would be appreciated.



Here is an image to help.



horizontal_rotation_plane










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Below is the question I'm not sure I've properly solved.



A smooth bead of mass 100g is threaded on a light inextensible string of length 70 cm. The string has one end attached to a fixed point A and the other to a fixed point B 50 cm vertically below A. The bead moves in a horizontal circle about the line AB with a constant angular speed of $omega$ rad/s, and the string taut. If the bead is at a point C on the string with AC = 40 cm, find the value of $omega$ and the tension in the string.



Because its a 3-4-5 triangle, I found the horizontal rotation plane to be 0.18m above B, and therefore 0.32m below A. The radius is then 0.24m. I found this by extending AC to 6.25m. I then resolve the vertical and horizontal forces and found $omega$ to be 4.88 rad/s. I`m however not sure about this answer as books says 16.9, 4.9N.



Any help would be appreciated.



Here is an image to help.



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  • Could you add a picture or a more detailed description. I am especially stuck on this sentence "The bead moves in a horizontal circle about the line AB".
    – maxmilgram
    Nov 19 at 11:49










  • @maxmilgram, I hope that helps
    – tas75
    Nov 19 at 12:04










  • I don't get your answer or the answer in the book. I'll post my free body diagram in the answer because it won't post in the comments.
    – Phil H
    Nov 19 at 15:52










  • See revised answer, same as the book.
    – Phil H
    Nov 19 at 19:24










  • @Phil H, thanks for confirming the books answer
    – tas75
    Nov 19 at 20:12


















  • Could you add a picture or a more detailed description. I am especially stuck on this sentence "The bead moves in a horizontal circle about the line AB".
    – maxmilgram
    Nov 19 at 11:49










  • @maxmilgram, I hope that helps
    – tas75
    Nov 19 at 12:04










  • I don't get your answer or the answer in the book. I'll post my free body diagram in the answer because it won't post in the comments.
    – Phil H
    Nov 19 at 15:52










  • See revised answer, same as the book.
    – Phil H
    Nov 19 at 19:24










  • @Phil H, thanks for confirming the books answer
    – tas75
    Nov 19 at 20:12
















Could you add a picture or a more detailed description. I am especially stuck on this sentence "The bead moves in a horizontal circle about the line AB".
– maxmilgram
Nov 19 at 11:49




Could you add a picture or a more detailed description. I am especially stuck on this sentence "The bead moves in a horizontal circle about the line AB".
– maxmilgram
Nov 19 at 11:49












@maxmilgram, I hope that helps
– tas75
Nov 19 at 12:04




@maxmilgram, I hope that helps
– tas75
Nov 19 at 12:04












I don't get your answer or the answer in the book. I'll post my free body diagram in the answer because it won't post in the comments.
– Phil H
Nov 19 at 15:52




I don't get your answer or the answer in the book. I'll post my free body diagram in the answer because it won't post in the comments.
– Phil H
Nov 19 at 15:52












See revised answer, same as the book.
– Phil H
Nov 19 at 19:24




See revised answer, same as the book.
– Phil H
Nov 19 at 19:24












@Phil H, thanks for confirming the books answer
– tas75
Nov 19 at 20:12




@Phil H, thanks for confirming the books answer
– tas75
Nov 19 at 20:12










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Edit: I had the resultant of the strings at the wrong angle. Now corrected I get the same result as the book.



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