Recurrence and Fibonacci: $a_{n+1}=frac {1+a_n}{2+a_n}$
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For the recurrence relation
$$a_{n+1}=frac {1+a_n}{2+a_n}$$
where $a_1=1$, the solution is $a_n=frac {F_{2n}}{F_{2n+1}}$, where $F_n$ is the $n$-th Fibonacci number, according to the convention where $F_1=0, F_2=1,cdots
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This can easily be proven by substituting the solution back into the recurrence relation, or alternatively by induction.
Can the solution be derived directly from the recurrence relation itself, i.e. not by substituting the solution into the recurrence, or by induction?
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For the recurrence relation
$$a_{n+1}=frac {1+a_n}{2+a_n}$$
where $a_1=1$, the solution is $a_n=frac {F_{2n}}{F_{2n+1}}$, where $F_n$ is the $n$-th Fibonacci number, according to the convention where $F_1=0, F_2=1,cdots
$
This can easily be proven by substituting the solution back into the recurrence relation, or alternatively by induction.
Can the solution be derived directly from the recurrence relation itself, i.e. not by substituting the solution into the recurrence, or by induction?
recurrence-relations fibonacci-numbers
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i really dont know why this got downvoted .. so sad !! i think the question is really nice (+1)
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– Ahmad Bazzi
Dec 5 '18 at 16:20
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@AhmadBazzi neither do I but thanks for the encouraging comment and upvote! :)
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For the recurrence relation
$$a_{n+1}=frac {1+a_n}{2+a_n}$$
where $a_1=1$, the solution is $a_n=frac {F_{2n}}{F_{2n+1}}$, where $F_n$ is the $n$-th Fibonacci number, according to the convention where $F_1=0, F_2=1,cdots
$
This can easily be proven by substituting the solution back into the recurrence relation, or alternatively by induction.
Can the solution be derived directly from the recurrence relation itself, i.e. not by substituting the solution into the recurrence, or by induction?
recurrence-relations fibonacci-numbers
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For the recurrence relation
$$a_{n+1}=frac {1+a_n}{2+a_n}$$
where $a_1=1$, the solution is $a_n=frac {F_{2n}}{F_{2n+1}}$, where $F_n$ is the $n$-th Fibonacci number, according to the convention where $F_1=0, F_2=1,cdots
$
This can easily be proven by substituting the solution back into the recurrence relation, or alternatively by induction.
Can the solution be derived directly from the recurrence relation itself, i.e. not by substituting the solution into the recurrence, or by induction?
recurrence-relations fibonacci-numbers
recurrence-relations fibonacci-numbers
edited Dec 5 '18 at 17:00
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i really dont know why this got downvoted .. so sad !! i think the question is really nice (+1)
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– Ahmad Bazzi
Dec 5 '18 at 16:20
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@AhmadBazzi neither do I but thanks for the encouraging comment and upvote! :)
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 16:21
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i really dont know why this got downvoted .. so sad !! i think the question is really nice (+1)
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– Ahmad Bazzi
Dec 5 '18 at 16:20
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@AhmadBazzi neither do I but thanks for the encouraging comment and upvote! :)
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 16:21
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i really dont know why this got downvoted .. so sad !! i think the question is really nice (+1)
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– Ahmad Bazzi
Dec 5 '18 at 16:20
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i really dont know why this got downvoted .. so sad !! i think the question is really nice (+1)
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– Ahmad Bazzi
Dec 5 '18 at 16:20
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@AhmadBazzi neither do I but thanks for the encouraging comment and upvote! :)
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 16:21
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@AhmadBazzi neither do I but thanks for the encouraging comment and upvote! :)
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Yes, it can be derived directly, assuming some familiarity with the Fibonacci numbers. I am using the initial conditions $F_1=F_2=1$ for the Fibonacci numbers, which impies that
$$
a_{n}=frac{F_{2n-1}}{F_{2n}}
$$
There is a nice property involving functions of the form
$$
f(x) = frac{ax+b}{cx+d}
$$
If you compose such an $f$ with another $g(x)=frac{px+q}{sx+t}$ of the same form, the result is another function in the same form, whose coefficients are identical to matrix product of the squares of coefficients of $f$ and $g$:
$$
fcirc g = frac{(ap+bs)x+(aq+bt)}{(cp+ds)x+(cq+dt)}
$$
Letting
$$
f(x)=frac{1+x}{2+x}
$$
this implies that
$$a_n=fcirc fcirc dots circ fbig(1big),$$ with $n-1$ functions composed. Using the matrix connection, and the observation that substituting $x=1$ results in a fraction whose numerator and denominator are the components of the right column of this matrix, this implies that $a_n$ is a fraction whose numerator an denominator are given by the matrix
$$
a_n=frac{b_n}{c_n},qquad begin{bmatrix}b_n\c_nend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}1&1\1&2end{bmatrix}^{n-1}begin{bmatrix}1\0end{bmatrix}
=begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}^{2(n-1)}begin{bmatrix}1\0end{bmatrix}
$$
Finally, recall that $begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}$ is the "Fibonacci matrix" which satisfies
$$
begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}^n=begin{bmatrix}F_{n-1}&F_n\F_{n}&F_{n+1}end{bmatrix},
$$
an identity which follows directly from the recurrence $F_n=F_{n-1}+F_{n-2}$ and base cases $F_0=0,F_1=1$.
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Thanks. Very nice solution (+1). Interesting property of $f(x)$ and clever application.
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Dec 5 '18 at 17:02
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Hint:
By letting $2+a_n=frac{b_{n+1}}{b_n}$, we get
$$frac{b_{n+2}}{b_{n+1}}-2 = 1 - frac{b_{n}}{b_{n+1}} implies b_{n+2} -3b_{n+1} + b_{n} = 0.$$
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Thanks (+1). Nice hint. At least that gets us to a nice linear recurrence relation.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 16:55
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clever substitution (+1)
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[My interpretation of Mike Earnest's solution, posted here for my own reference only]
$$begin{align}
a_{n+1}&=frac {b_{n+1}}{c_{n+1}}=frac {1+frac {b_n}{c_n}}{2+frac {b_n}{c_n}}=frac {b_n+c_n}{b_n+2c_n}\\
left(b_{n+1}atop c_{n+1}right)
&=left(1 1atop 1 2right)left(b_{n}atop c_{n}right)
=left(1 1atop 1 2right)^2left(b_{n-1}atop c_{n-1}right)=cdots\\
&=left(1 1atop 1 2right)^nleft(b_1atop c_1right)\\
&=left(0 1atop 1 1right)^{2n}left(b_1atop c_1right)\\
&=left(F_{2n-1} F_{2n} atop F_{2n} F_{2n+1}right)left(1atop 1right)
&&scriptsize(a_1=1Rightarrow b_1=1, c_1=1)\\
&=left(F_{2n-1}+F_{2n} atop F_{2n} +F_{2n+1}right)\\
&=left(F_{2n+1}atop F_{2n+2}right)\\
therefore a_{n+1}&=frac {b_{n+1}}{c_{n+1}}=frac {F_{2n+1}}{F_{2n+2}}\\
color{red}{a_n}&color{red}{=frac {F_{2n} }{F_{2n+1}}qquadblacksquare}
end{align}$$
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Let $b_n=frac{1}{a_n}$. We have
$$ b_n = frac{a_n+2}{a_n+1} = frac{2b_n+1}{b_n+1}=1+frac{1}{1+frac{1}{b_n}} $$
hence in terms of continued fractions we have $b_1=[1], b_2=[1;1,1], b_3=[1;1,1,1,1]$ and so on. The convergents of $varphi=frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}=[1;overline{1}]$ are given by ratios of consecutive Fibonacci numbers, hence $b_n=frac{F_{2n-1}}{F_{2n+1}}$ and $a_n=frac{F_{2n}}{F_{2n+1}}$.
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Thanks. If a series $c_n$ converges to $phi$ as $nto infty$, can it be concluded that $c_n=frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}$, since we know that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}=phi$, or is this not necessarily the case?
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– hypergeometric
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That is definitely not always true. For example, each of the series $c_n = dfrac{F_n-1}{F_{n+1}}$, $d_n = dfrac{F_{n+1}}{F_{n+2}}$, $e_n = dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+1}-1000}$, and $f_n = sqrt{dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+2}}}$ converges to $phi = dfrac{sqrt{5}-1}{2}$. There are also many series which converge to $phi$ which aren't expressible in "nice" closed forms.
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– JimmyK4542
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Yes, it can be derived directly, assuming some familiarity with the Fibonacci numbers. I am using the initial conditions $F_1=F_2=1$ for the Fibonacci numbers, which impies that
$$
a_{n}=frac{F_{2n-1}}{F_{2n}}
$$
There is a nice property involving functions of the form
$$
f(x) = frac{ax+b}{cx+d}
$$
If you compose such an $f$ with another $g(x)=frac{px+q}{sx+t}$ of the same form, the result is another function in the same form, whose coefficients are identical to matrix product of the squares of coefficients of $f$ and $g$:
$$
fcirc g = frac{(ap+bs)x+(aq+bt)}{(cp+ds)x+(cq+dt)}
$$
Letting
$$
f(x)=frac{1+x}{2+x}
$$
this implies that
$$a_n=fcirc fcirc dots circ fbig(1big),$$ with $n-1$ functions composed. Using the matrix connection, and the observation that substituting $x=1$ results in a fraction whose numerator and denominator are the components of the right column of this matrix, this implies that $a_n$ is a fraction whose numerator an denominator are given by the matrix
$$
a_n=frac{b_n}{c_n},qquad begin{bmatrix}b_n\c_nend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}1&1\1&2end{bmatrix}^{n-1}begin{bmatrix}1\0end{bmatrix}
=begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}^{2(n-1)}begin{bmatrix}1\0end{bmatrix}
$$
Finally, recall that $begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}$ is the "Fibonacci matrix" which satisfies
$$
begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}^n=begin{bmatrix}F_{n-1}&F_n\F_{n}&F_{n+1}end{bmatrix},
$$
an identity which follows directly from the recurrence $F_n=F_{n-1}+F_{n-2}$ and base cases $F_0=0,F_1=1$.
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Thanks. Very nice solution (+1). Interesting property of $f(x)$ and clever application.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 17:02
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Yes, it can be derived directly, assuming some familiarity with the Fibonacci numbers. I am using the initial conditions $F_1=F_2=1$ for the Fibonacci numbers, which impies that
$$
a_{n}=frac{F_{2n-1}}{F_{2n}}
$$
There is a nice property involving functions of the form
$$
f(x) = frac{ax+b}{cx+d}
$$
If you compose such an $f$ with another $g(x)=frac{px+q}{sx+t}$ of the same form, the result is another function in the same form, whose coefficients are identical to matrix product of the squares of coefficients of $f$ and $g$:
$$
fcirc g = frac{(ap+bs)x+(aq+bt)}{(cp+ds)x+(cq+dt)}
$$
Letting
$$
f(x)=frac{1+x}{2+x}
$$
this implies that
$$a_n=fcirc fcirc dots circ fbig(1big),$$ with $n-1$ functions composed. Using the matrix connection, and the observation that substituting $x=1$ results in a fraction whose numerator and denominator are the components of the right column of this matrix, this implies that $a_n$ is a fraction whose numerator an denominator are given by the matrix
$$
a_n=frac{b_n}{c_n},qquad begin{bmatrix}b_n\c_nend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}1&1\1&2end{bmatrix}^{n-1}begin{bmatrix}1\0end{bmatrix}
=begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}^{2(n-1)}begin{bmatrix}1\0end{bmatrix}
$$
Finally, recall that $begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}$ is the "Fibonacci matrix" which satisfies
$$
begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}^n=begin{bmatrix}F_{n-1}&F_n\F_{n}&F_{n+1}end{bmatrix},
$$
an identity which follows directly from the recurrence $F_n=F_{n-1}+F_{n-2}$ and base cases $F_0=0,F_1=1$.
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Thanks. Very nice solution (+1). Interesting property of $f(x)$ and clever application.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 17:02
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Yes, it can be derived directly, assuming some familiarity with the Fibonacci numbers. I am using the initial conditions $F_1=F_2=1$ for the Fibonacci numbers, which impies that
$$
a_{n}=frac{F_{2n-1}}{F_{2n}}
$$
There is a nice property involving functions of the form
$$
f(x) = frac{ax+b}{cx+d}
$$
If you compose such an $f$ with another $g(x)=frac{px+q}{sx+t}$ of the same form, the result is another function in the same form, whose coefficients are identical to matrix product of the squares of coefficients of $f$ and $g$:
$$
fcirc g = frac{(ap+bs)x+(aq+bt)}{(cp+ds)x+(cq+dt)}
$$
Letting
$$
f(x)=frac{1+x}{2+x}
$$
this implies that
$$a_n=fcirc fcirc dots circ fbig(1big),$$ with $n-1$ functions composed. Using the matrix connection, and the observation that substituting $x=1$ results in a fraction whose numerator and denominator are the components of the right column of this matrix, this implies that $a_n$ is a fraction whose numerator an denominator are given by the matrix
$$
a_n=frac{b_n}{c_n},qquad begin{bmatrix}b_n\c_nend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}1&1\1&2end{bmatrix}^{n-1}begin{bmatrix}1\0end{bmatrix}
=begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}^{2(n-1)}begin{bmatrix}1\0end{bmatrix}
$$
Finally, recall that $begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}$ is the "Fibonacci matrix" which satisfies
$$
begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}^n=begin{bmatrix}F_{n-1}&F_n\F_{n}&F_{n+1}end{bmatrix},
$$
an identity which follows directly from the recurrence $F_n=F_{n-1}+F_{n-2}$ and base cases $F_0=0,F_1=1$.
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Yes, it can be derived directly, assuming some familiarity with the Fibonacci numbers. I am using the initial conditions $F_1=F_2=1$ for the Fibonacci numbers, which impies that
$$
a_{n}=frac{F_{2n-1}}{F_{2n}}
$$
There is a nice property involving functions of the form
$$
f(x) = frac{ax+b}{cx+d}
$$
If you compose such an $f$ with another $g(x)=frac{px+q}{sx+t}$ of the same form, the result is another function in the same form, whose coefficients are identical to matrix product of the squares of coefficients of $f$ and $g$:
$$
fcirc g = frac{(ap+bs)x+(aq+bt)}{(cp+ds)x+(cq+dt)}
$$
Letting
$$
f(x)=frac{1+x}{2+x}
$$
this implies that
$$a_n=fcirc fcirc dots circ fbig(1big),$$ with $n-1$ functions composed. Using the matrix connection, and the observation that substituting $x=1$ results in a fraction whose numerator and denominator are the components of the right column of this matrix, this implies that $a_n$ is a fraction whose numerator an denominator are given by the matrix
$$
a_n=frac{b_n}{c_n},qquad begin{bmatrix}b_n\c_nend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}1&1\1&2end{bmatrix}^{n-1}begin{bmatrix}1\0end{bmatrix}
=begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}^{2(n-1)}begin{bmatrix}1\0end{bmatrix}
$$
Finally, recall that $begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}$ is the "Fibonacci matrix" which satisfies
$$
begin{bmatrix}0&1\1&1end{bmatrix}^n=begin{bmatrix}F_{n-1}&F_n\F_{n}&F_{n+1}end{bmatrix},
$$
an identity which follows directly from the recurrence $F_n=F_{n-1}+F_{n-2}$ and base cases $F_0=0,F_1=1$.
edited Dec 5 '18 at 17:03
answered Dec 5 '18 at 16:56
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Thanks. Very nice solution (+1). Interesting property of $f(x)$ and clever application.
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– hypergeometric
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Thanks. Very nice solution (+1). Interesting property of $f(x)$ and clever application.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 17:02
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Thanks. Very nice solution (+1). Interesting property of $f(x)$ and clever application.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 17:02
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Thanks. Very nice solution (+1). Interesting property of $f(x)$ and clever application.
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– hypergeometric
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Hint:
By letting $2+a_n=frac{b_{n+1}}{b_n}$, we get
$$frac{b_{n+2}}{b_{n+1}}-2 = 1 - frac{b_{n}}{b_{n+1}} implies b_{n+2} -3b_{n+1} + b_{n} = 0.$$
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Thanks (+1). Nice hint. At least that gets us to a nice linear recurrence relation.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 16:55
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clever substitution (+1)
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Hint:
By letting $2+a_n=frac{b_{n+1}}{b_n}$, we get
$$frac{b_{n+2}}{b_{n+1}}-2 = 1 - frac{b_{n}}{b_{n+1}} implies b_{n+2} -3b_{n+1} + b_{n} = 0.$$
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Thanks (+1). Nice hint. At least that gets us to a nice linear recurrence relation.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 16:55
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clever substitution (+1)
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Hint:
By letting $2+a_n=frac{b_{n+1}}{b_n}$, we get
$$frac{b_{n+2}}{b_{n+1}}-2 = 1 - frac{b_{n}}{b_{n+1}} implies b_{n+2} -3b_{n+1} + b_{n} = 0.$$
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Hint:
By letting $2+a_n=frac{b_{n+1}}{b_n}$, we get
$$frac{b_{n+2}}{b_{n+1}}-2 = 1 - frac{b_{n}}{b_{n+1}} implies b_{n+2} -3b_{n+1} + b_{n} = 0.$$
answered Dec 5 '18 at 16:28
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Thanks (+1). Nice hint. At least that gets us to a nice linear recurrence relation.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 16:55
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clever substitution (+1)
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– G Cab
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Thanks (+1). Nice hint. At least that gets us to a nice linear recurrence relation.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 16:55
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clever substitution (+1)
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– G Cab
Dec 5 '18 at 17:31
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Thanks (+1). Nice hint. At least that gets us to a nice linear recurrence relation.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 16:55
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Thanks (+1). Nice hint. At least that gets us to a nice linear recurrence relation.
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– hypergeometric
Dec 5 '18 at 16:55
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clever substitution (+1)
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– G Cab
Dec 5 '18 at 17:31
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clever substitution (+1)
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[My interpretation of Mike Earnest's solution, posted here for my own reference only]
$$begin{align}
a_{n+1}&=frac {b_{n+1}}{c_{n+1}}=frac {1+frac {b_n}{c_n}}{2+frac {b_n}{c_n}}=frac {b_n+c_n}{b_n+2c_n}\\
left(b_{n+1}atop c_{n+1}right)
&=left(1 1atop 1 2right)left(b_{n}atop c_{n}right)
=left(1 1atop 1 2right)^2left(b_{n-1}atop c_{n-1}right)=cdots\\
&=left(1 1atop 1 2right)^nleft(b_1atop c_1right)\\
&=left(0 1atop 1 1right)^{2n}left(b_1atop c_1right)\\
&=left(F_{2n-1} F_{2n} atop F_{2n} F_{2n+1}right)left(1atop 1right)
&&scriptsize(a_1=1Rightarrow b_1=1, c_1=1)\\
&=left(F_{2n-1}+F_{2n} atop F_{2n} +F_{2n+1}right)\\
&=left(F_{2n+1}atop F_{2n+2}right)\\
therefore a_{n+1}&=frac {b_{n+1}}{c_{n+1}}=frac {F_{2n+1}}{F_{2n+2}}\\
color{red}{a_n}&color{red}{=frac {F_{2n} }{F_{2n+1}}qquadblacksquare}
end{align}$$
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[My interpretation of Mike Earnest's solution, posted here for my own reference only]
$$begin{align}
a_{n+1}&=frac {b_{n+1}}{c_{n+1}}=frac {1+frac {b_n}{c_n}}{2+frac {b_n}{c_n}}=frac {b_n+c_n}{b_n+2c_n}\\
left(b_{n+1}atop c_{n+1}right)
&=left(1 1atop 1 2right)left(b_{n}atop c_{n}right)
=left(1 1atop 1 2right)^2left(b_{n-1}atop c_{n-1}right)=cdots\\
&=left(1 1atop 1 2right)^nleft(b_1atop c_1right)\\
&=left(0 1atop 1 1right)^{2n}left(b_1atop c_1right)\\
&=left(F_{2n-1} F_{2n} atop F_{2n} F_{2n+1}right)left(1atop 1right)
&&scriptsize(a_1=1Rightarrow b_1=1, c_1=1)\\
&=left(F_{2n-1}+F_{2n} atop F_{2n} +F_{2n+1}right)\\
&=left(F_{2n+1}atop F_{2n+2}right)\\
therefore a_{n+1}&=frac {b_{n+1}}{c_{n+1}}=frac {F_{2n+1}}{F_{2n+2}}\\
color{red}{a_n}&color{red}{=frac {F_{2n} }{F_{2n+1}}qquadblacksquare}
end{align}$$
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[My interpretation of Mike Earnest's solution, posted here for my own reference only]
$$begin{align}
a_{n+1}&=frac {b_{n+1}}{c_{n+1}}=frac {1+frac {b_n}{c_n}}{2+frac {b_n}{c_n}}=frac {b_n+c_n}{b_n+2c_n}\\
left(b_{n+1}atop c_{n+1}right)
&=left(1 1atop 1 2right)left(b_{n}atop c_{n}right)
=left(1 1atop 1 2right)^2left(b_{n-1}atop c_{n-1}right)=cdots\\
&=left(1 1atop 1 2right)^nleft(b_1atop c_1right)\\
&=left(0 1atop 1 1right)^{2n}left(b_1atop c_1right)\\
&=left(F_{2n-1} F_{2n} atop F_{2n} F_{2n+1}right)left(1atop 1right)
&&scriptsize(a_1=1Rightarrow b_1=1, c_1=1)\\
&=left(F_{2n-1}+F_{2n} atop F_{2n} +F_{2n+1}right)\\
&=left(F_{2n+1}atop F_{2n+2}right)\\
therefore a_{n+1}&=frac {b_{n+1}}{c_{n+1}}=frac {F_{2n+1}}{F_{2n+2}}\\
color{red}{a_n}&color{red}{=frac {F_{2n} }{F_{2n+1}}qquadblacksquare}
end{align}$$
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[My interpretation of Mike Earnest's solution, posted here for my own reference only]
$$begin{align}
a_{n+1}&=frac {b_{n+1}}{c_{n+1}}=frac {1+frac {b_n}{c_n}}{2+frac {b_n}{c_n}}=frac {b_n+c_n}{b_n+2c_n}\\
left(b_{n+1}atop c_{n+1}right)
&=left(1 1atop 1 2right)left(b_{n}atop c_{n}right)
=left(1 1atop 1 2right)^2left(b_{n-1}atop c_{n-1}right)=cdots\\
&=left(1 1atop 1 2right)^nleft(b_1atop c_1right)\\
&=left(0 1atop 1 1right)^{2n}left(b_1atop c_1right)\\
&=left(F_{2n-1} F_{2n} atop F_{2n} F_{2n+1}right)left(1atop 1right)
&&scriptsize(a_1=1Rightarrow b_1=1, c_1=1)\\
&=left(F_{2n-1}+F_{2n} atop F_{2n} +F_{2n+1}right)\\
&=left(F_{2n+1}atop F_{2n+2}right)\\
therefore a_{n+1}&=frac {b_{n+1}}{c_{n+1}}=frac {F_{2n+1}}{F_{2n+2}}\\
color{red}{a_n}&color{red}{=frac {F_{2n} }{F_{2n+1}}qquadblacksquare}
end{align}$$
edited Dec 6 '18 at 6:27
answered Dec 5 '18 at 20:00
hypergeometrichypergeometric
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Let $b_n=frac{1}{a_n}$. We have
$$ b_n = frac{a_n+2}{a_n+1} = frac{2b_n+1}{b_n+1}=1+frac{1}{1+frac{1}{b_n}} $$
hence in terms of continued fractions we have $b_1=[1], b_2=[1;1,1], b_3=[1;1,1,1,1]$ and so on. The convergents of $varphi=frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}=[1;overline{1}]$ are given by ratios of consecutive Fibonacci numbers, hence $b_n=frac{F_{2n-1}}{F_{2n+1}}$ and $a_n=frac{F_{2n}}{F_{2n+1}}$.
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Thanks. If a series $c_n$ converges to $phi$ as $nto infty$, can it be concluded that $c_n=frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}$, since we know that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}=phi$, or is this not necessarily the case?
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– hypergeometric
Dec 6 '18 at 6:25
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That is definitely not always true. For example, each of the series $c_n = dfrac{F_n-1}{F_{n+1}}$, $d_n = dfrac{F_{n+1}}{F_{n+2}}$, $e_n = dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+1}-1000}$, and $f_n = sqrt{dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+2}}}$ converges to $phi = dfrac{sqrt{5}-1}{2}$. There are also many series which converge to $phi$ which aren't expressible in "nice" closed forms.
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– JimmyK4542
Dec 6 '18 at 6:31
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Let $b_n=frac{1}{a_n}$. We have
$$ b_n = frac{a_n+2}{a_n+1} = frac{2b_n+1}{b_n+1}=1+frac{1}{1+frac{1}{b_n}} $$
hence in terms of continued fractions we have $b_1=[1], b_2=[1;1,1], b_3=[1;1,1,1,1]$ and so on. The convergents of $varphi=frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}=[1;overline{1}]$ are given by ratios of consecutive Fibonacci numbers, hence $b_n=frac{F_{2n-1}}{F_{2n+1}}$ and $a_n=frac{F_{2n}}{F_{2n+1}}$.
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$begingroup$
Thanks. If a series $c_n$ converges to $phi$ as $nto infty$, can it be concluded that $c_n=frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}$, since we know that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}=phi$, or is this not necessarily the case?
$endgroup$
– hypergeometric
Dec 6 '18 at 6:25
2
$begingroup$
That is definitely not always true. For example, each of the series $c_n = dfrac{F_n-1}{F_{n+1}}$, $d_n = dfrac{F_{n+1}}{F_{n+2}}$, $e_n = dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+1}-1000}$, and $f_n = sqrt{dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+2}}}$ converges to $phi = dfrac{sqrt{5}-1}{2}$. There are also many series which converge to $phi$ which aren't expressible in "nice" closed forms.
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– JimmyK4542
Dec 6 '18 at 6:31
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $b_n=frac{1}{a_n}$. We have
$$ b_n = frac{a_n+2}{a_n+1} = frac{2b_n+1}{b_n+1}=1+frac{1}{1+frac{1}{b_n}} $$
hence in terms of continued fractions we have $b_1=[1], b_2=[1;1,1], b_3=[1;1,1,1,1]$ and so on. The convergents of $varphi=frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}=[1;overline{1}]$ are given by ratios of consecutive Fibonacci numbers, hence $b_n=frac{F_{2n-1}}{F_{2n+1}}$ and $a_n=frac{F_{2n}}{F_{2n+1}}$.
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Let $b_n=frac{1}{a_n}$. We have
$$ b_n = frac{a_n+2}{a_n+1} = frac{2b_n+1}{b_n+1}=1+frac{1}{1+frac{1}{b_n}} $$
hence in terms of continued fractions we have $b_1=[1], b_2=[1;1,1], b_3=[1;1,1,1,1]$ and so on. The convergents of $varphi=frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}=[1;overline{1}]$ are given by ratios of consecutive Fibonacci numbers, hence $b_n=frac{F_{2n-1}}{F_{2n+1}}$ and $a_n=frac{F_{2n}}{F_{2n+1}}$.
answered Dec 5 '18 at 23:04
Jack D'AurizioJack D'Aurizio
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Thanks. If a series $c_n$ converges to $phi$ as $nto infty$, can it be concluded that $c_n=frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}$, since we know that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}=phi$, or is this not necessarily the case?
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– hypergeometric
Dec 6 '18 at 6:25
2
$begingroup$
That is definitely not always true. For example, each of the series $c_n = dfrac{F_n-1}{F_{n+1}}$, $d_n = dfrac{F_{n+1}}{F_{n+2}}$, $e_n = dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+1}-1000}$, and $f_n = sqrt{dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+2}}}$ converges to $phi = dfrac{sqrt{5}-1}{2}$. There are also many series which converge to $phi$ which aren't expressible in "nice" closed forms.
$endgroup$
– JimmyK4542
Dec 6 '18 at 6:31
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Thanks. If a series $c_n$ converges to $phi$ as $nto infty$, can it be concluded that $c_n=frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}$, since we know that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}=phi$, or is this not necessarily the case?
$endgroup$
– hypergeometric
Dec 6 '18 at 6:25
2
$begingroup$
That is definitely not always true. For example, each of the series $c_n = dfrac{F_n-1}{F_{n+1}}$, $d_n = dfrac{F_{n+1}}{F_{n+2}}$, $e_n = dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+1}-1000}$, and $f_n = sqrt{dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+2}}}$ converges to $phi = dfrac{sqrt{5}-1}{2}$. There are also many series which converge to $phi$ which aren't expressible in "nice" closed forms.
$endgroup$
– JimmyK4542
Dec 6 '18 at 6:31
$begingroup$
Thanks. If a series $c_n$ converges to $phi$ as $nto infty$, can it be concluded that $c_n=frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}$, since we know that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}=phi$, or is this not necessarily the case?
$endgroup$
– hypergeometric
Dec 6 '18 at 6:25
$begingroup$
Thanks. If a series $c_n$ converges to $phi$ as $nto infty$, can it be concluded that $c_n=frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}$, since we know that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac {F_n}{F_{n+1}}=phi$, or is this not necessarily the case?
$endgroup$
– hypergeometric
Dec 6 '18 at 6:25
2
2
$begingroup$
That is definitely not always true. For example, each of the series $c_n = dfrac{F_n-1}{F_{n+1}}$, $d_n = dfrac{F_{n+1}}{F_{n+2}}$, $e_n = dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+1}-1000}$, and $f_n = sqrt{dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+2}}}$ converges to $phi = dfrac{sqrt{5}-1}{2}$. There are also many series which converge to $phi$ which aren't expressible in "nice" closed forms.
$endgroup$
– JimmyK4542
Dec 6 '18 at 6:31
$begingroup$
That is definitely not always true. For example, each of the series $c_n = dfrac{F_n-1}{F_{n+1}}$, $d_n = dfrac{F_{n+1}}{F_{n+2}}$, $e_n = dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+1}-1000}$, and $f_n = sqrt{dfrac{F_n}{F_{n+2}}}$ converges to $phi = dfrac{sqrt{5}-1}{2}$. There are also many series which converge to $phi$ which aren't expressible in "nice" closed forms.
$endgroup$
– JimmyK4542
Dec 6 '18 at 6:31
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i really dont know why this got downvoted .. so sad !! i think the question is really nice (+1)
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@AhmadBazzi neither do I but thanks for the encouraging comment and upvote! :)
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