Construct a sequence subsequential limits of which form a range $[a, b]subset Bbb R$
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construct a sequence subsequential limits of which form a range $[a, b]subset Bbb R$
Not sure how to express myself correctly but I will try.
I was thinking of a range from $a$ to $b$. If i could split that range infinitely many times and always choose either left or right part, then I could use that "path" as a subsequence. From that i should be able to find infinitely many subsequences which with some reordering will form a sequence containing any number in the range $[a, b]$ as its subsequential limit.
I've been playing around with this idea in desmos, here is a basic sketch of the idea.
Could someone help me construct such a sequence? Is my approach even valid? If so then how could i finish it?
calculus sequences-and-series limits
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I want to:
construct a sequence subsequential limits of which form a range $[a, b]subset Bbb R$
Not sure how to express myself correctly but I will try.
I was thinking of a range from $a$ to $b$. If i could split that range infinitely many times and always choose either left or right part, then I could use that "path" as a subsequence. From that i should be able to find infinitely many subsequences which with some reordering will form a sequence containing any number in the range $[a, b]$ as its subsequential limit.
I've been playing around with this idea in desmos, here is a basic sketch of the idea.
Could someone help me construct such a sequence? Is my approach even valid? If so then how could i finish it?
calculus sequences-and-series limits
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enumerate rationals in $[a,b]$
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– mathworker21
Dec 16 '18 at 15:48
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I can't see anything but empty space in desmos.
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– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:52
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@BigbearZzz I've fixed the link, thanks for pointing out
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– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:53
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I want to:
construct a sequence subsequential limits of which form a range $[a, b]subset Bbb R$
Not sure how to express myself correctly but I will try.
I was thinking of a range from $a$ to $b$. If i could split that range infinitely many times and always choose either left or right part, then I could use that "path" as a subsequence. From that i should be able to find infinitely many subsequences which with some reordering will form a sequence containing any number in the range $[a, b]$ as its subsequential limit.
I've been playing around with this idea in desmos, here is a basic sketch of the idea.
Could someone help me construct such a sequence? Is my approach even valid? If so then how could i finish it?
calculus sequences-and-series limits
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I want to:
construct a sequence subsequential limits of which form a range $[a, b]subset Bbb R$
Not sure how to express myself correctly but I will try.
I was thinking of a range from $a$ to $b$. If i could split that range infinitely many times and always choose either left or right part, then I could use that "path" as a subsequence. From that i should be able to find infinitely many subsequences which with some reordering will form a sequence containing any number in the range $[a, b]$ as its subsequential limit.
I've been playing around with this idea in desmos, here is a basic sketch of the idea.
Could someone help me construct such a sequence? Is my approach even valid? If so then how could i finish it?
calculus sequences-and-series limits
calculus sequences-and-series limits
edited Dec 16 '18 at 15:53
roman
asked Dec 16 '18 at 15:46
romanroman
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2,34321224
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enumerate rationals in $[a,b]$
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– mathworker21
Dec 16 '18 at 15:48
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I can't see anything but empty space in desmos.
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– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:52
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@BigbearZzz I've fixed the link, thanks for pointing out
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– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:53
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enumerate rationals in $[a,b]$
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– mathworker21
Dec 16 '18 at 15:48
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I can't see anything but empty space in desmos.
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– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:52
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@BigbearZzz I've fixed the link, thanks for pointing out
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– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:53
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enumerate rationals in $[a,b]$
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– mathworker21
Dec 16 '18 at 15:48
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enumerate rationals in $[a,b]$
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– mathworker21
Dec 16 '18 at 15:48
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I can't see anything but empty space in desmos.
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– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:52
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I can't see anything but empty space in desmos.
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– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:52
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@BigbearZzz I've fixed the link, thanks for pointing out
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– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:53
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@BigbearZzz I've fixed the link, thanks for pointing out
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When I click on your link, I just get the Desmos home page.
On the other hand, you can take the sequence:$$a,b,a,frac12a+frac12b,b,a,frac23a+frac13b,frac13a+frac23b,b,a,frac34a+frac14b,ldots$$
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That's the one! I just could't wrap my mind around it, thank you!
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– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:57
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I just realized that my answer is essentially the same as you. I should have read carefully first.
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– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:59
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If $[a,b]=[0,1]$ then you can take the sequence
$$
frac 11, frac 12, frac 22, frac 13, frac 23, frac 33, frac 14, frac 24, frac 34, frac 44, dots
$$
It shouldn't be hard to see that any point in $[0,1]$ can be approximated arbitrarily well.
For general $[a,b]$ just linearly transform the above.
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Its famous that {$sin (n)}_{n=1}^infty$ is dense in $[-1,+1]$. So, shift to the interval of interest:
$$ {a+ (b-a) sin n}_{nin mathbb{N}} .$$
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When I click on your link, I just get the Desmos home page.
On the other hand, you can take the sequence:$$a,b,a,frac12a+frac12b,b,a,frac23a+frac13b,frac13a+frac23b,b,a,frac34a+frac14b,ldots$$
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That's the one! I just could't wrap my mind around it, thank you!
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– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:57
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I just realized that my answer is essentially the same as you. I should have read carefully first.
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– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:59
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When I click on your link, I just get the Desmos home page.
On the other hand, you can take the sequence:$$a,b,a,frac12a+frac12b,b,a,frac23a+frac13b,frac13a+frac23b,b,a,frac34a+frac14b,ldots$$
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That's the one! I just could't wrap my mind around it, thank you!
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– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:57
1
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I just realized that my answer is essentially the same as you. I should have read carefully first.
$endgroup$
– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:59
add a comment |
$begingroup$
When I click on your link, I just get the Desmos home page.
On the other hand, you can take the sequence:$$a,b,a,frac12a+frac12b,b,a,frac23a+frac13b,frac13a+frac23b,b,a,frac34a+frac14b,ldots$$
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When I click on your link, I just get the Desmos home page.
On the other hand, you can take the sequence:$$a,b,a,frac12a+frac12b,b,a,frac23a+frac13b,frac13a+frac23b,b,a,frac34a+frac14b,ldots$$
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answered Dec 16 '18 at 15:52
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That's the one! I just could't wrap my mind around it, thank you!
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– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:57
1
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I just realized that my answer is essentially the same as you. I should have read carefully first.
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– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:59
add a comment |
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That's the one! I just could't wrap my mind around it, thank you!
$endgroup$
– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:57
1
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I just realized that my answer is essentially the same as you. I should have read carefully first.
$endgroup$
– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:59
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That's the one! I just could't wrap my mind around it, thank you!
$endgroup$
– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:57
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That's the one! I just could't wrap my mind around it, thank you!
$endgroup$
– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:57
1
1
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I just realized that my answer is essentially the same as you. I should have read carefully first.
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– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:59
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I just realized that my answer is essentially the same as you. I should have read carefully first.
$endgroup$
– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:59
add a comment |
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If $[a,b]=[0,1]$ then you can take the sequence
$$
frac 11, frac 12, frac 22, frac 13, frac 23, frac 33, frac 14, frac 24, frac 34, frac 44, dots
$$
It shouldn't be hard to see that any point in $[0,1]$ can be approximated arbitrarily well.
For general $[a,b]$ just linearly transform the above.
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add a comment |
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If $[a,b]=[0,1]$ then you can take the sequence
$$
frac 11, frac 12, frac 22, frac 13, frac 23, frac 33, frac 14, frac 24, frac 34, frac 44, dots
$$
It shouldn't be hard to see that any point in $[0,1]$ can be approximated arbitrarily well.
For general $[a,b]$ just linearly transform the above.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
If $[a,b]=[0,1]$ then you can take the sequence
$$
frac 11, frac 12, frac 22, frac 13, frac 23, frac 33, frac 14, frac 24, frac 34, frac 44, dots
$$
It shouldn't be hard to see that any point in $[0,1]$ can be approximated arbitrarily well.
For general $[a,b]$ just linearly transform the above.
$endgroup$
If $[a,b]=[0,1]$ then you can take the sequence
$$
frac 11, frac 12, frac 22, frac 13, frac 23, frac 33, frac 14, frac 24, frac 34, frac 44, dots
$$
It shouldn't be hard to see that any point in $[0,1]$ can be approximated arbitrarily well.
For general $[a,b]$ just linearly transform the above.
answered Dec 16 '18 at 15:58
BigbearZzzBigbearZzz
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Its famous that {$sin (n)}_{n=1}^infty$ is dense in $[-1,+1]$. So, shift to the interval of interest:
$$ {a+ (b-a) sin n}_{nin mathbb{N}} .$$
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Its famous that {$sin (n)}_{n=1}^infty$ is dense in $[-1,+1]$. So, shift to the interval of interest:
$$ {a+ (b-a) sin n}_{nin mathbb{N}} .$$
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Its famous that {$sin (n)}_{n=1}^infty$ is dense in $[-1,+1]$. So, shift to the interval of interest:
$$ {a+ (b-a) sin n}_{nin mathbb{N}} .$$
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Its famous that {$sin (n)}_{n=1}^infty$ is dense in $[-1,+1]$. So, shift to the interval of interest:
$$ {a+ (b-a) sin n}_{nin mathbb{N}} .$$
answered Dec 16 '18 at 15:59
Behnam EsmayliBehnam Esmayli
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enumerate rationals in $[a,b]$
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– mathworker21
Dec 16 '18 at 15:48
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I can't see anything but empty space in desmos.
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– BigbearZzz
Dec 16 '18 at 15:52
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@BigbearZzz I've fixed the link, thanks for pointing out
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– roman
Dec 16 '18 at 15:53