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  • Hint:As can be seen, the point is not in the domain of the function, so the limit does not exist.
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  • You can only take right hand limit. To find the value of the limit you simply have to apply L'Hopital's Rule.
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    @1ENİGMA1 The existence of limits does not depend on whether the function is defined at the point. We only require that the point is a limit point of the domain.
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  • Hint:As can be seen, the point is not in the domain of the function, so the limit does not exist.
    – 1ENİGMA1
    Nov 16 at 11:50










  • You can only take right hand limit. To find the value of the limit you simply have to apply L'Hopital's Rule.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 16 at 11:52






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    @1ENİGMA1 The existence of limits does not depend on whether the function is defined at the point. We only require that the point is a limit point of the domain.
    – xbh
    Nov 16 at 11:56










  • @xbh I know it. What I mean you can see answers.
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    Nov 16 at 12:16













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  • Hint:As can be seen, the point is not in the domain of the function, so the limit does not exist.
    – 1ENİGMA1
    Nov 16 at 11:50










  • You can only take right hand limit. To find the value of the limit you simply have to apply L'Hopital's Rule.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 16 at 11:52






  • 1




    @1ENİGMA1 The existence of limits does not depend on whether the function is defined at the point. We only require that the point is a limit point of the domain.
    – xbh
    Nov 16 at 11:56










  • @xbh I know it. What I mean you can see answers.
    – 1ENİGMA1
    Nov 16 at 12:16


















  • Hint:As can be seen, the point is not in the domain of the function, so the limit does not exist.
    – 1ENİGMA1
    Nov 16 at 11:50










  • You can only take right hand limit. To find the value of the limit you simply have to apply L'Hopital's Rule.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 16 at 11:52






  • 1




    @1ENİGMA1 The existence of limits does not depend on whether the function is defined at the point. We only require that the point is a limit point of the domain.
    – xbh
    Nov 16 at 11:56










  • @xbh I know it. What I mean you can see answers.
    – 1ENİGMA1
    Nov 16 at 12:16
















Hint:As can be seen, the point is not in the domain of the function, so the limit does not exist.
– 1ENİGMA1
Nov 16 at 11:50




Hint:As can be seen, the point is not in the domain of the function, so the limit does not exist.
– 1ENİGMA1
Nov 16 at 11:50












You can only take right hand limit. To find the value of the limit you simply have to apply L'Hopital's Rule.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 16 at 11:52




You can only take right hand limit. To find the value of the limit you simply have to apply L'Hopital's Rule.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 16 at 11:52




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@1ENİGMA1 The existence of limits does not depend on whether the function is defined at the point. We only require that the point is a limit point of the domain.
– xbh
Nov 16 at 11:56




@1ENİGMA1 The existence of limits does not depend on whether the function is defined at the point. We only require that the point is a limit point of the domain.
– xbh
Nov 16 at 11:56












@xbh I know it. What I mean you can see answers.
– 1ENİGMA1
Nov 16 at 12:16




@xbh I know it. What I mean you can see answers.
– 1ENİGMA1
Nov 16 at 12:16










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As noticed we need $x>0$ then



$$frac{ln sin(x)}{ln tan(x)}=frac{ln frac{sin(x)}x+ln x}{ln frac{tan(x)}x+ln x}$$






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    Just consider the reciprocal (for $x>0$):



    $$frac{ln tan x}{ln sin x} = frac{ln sin x - ln cos x}{ln sin x} =1- frac{ln cos x}{ln sin x} stackrel{x to 0^+}{longrightarrow} 1$$
    It follows $boxed{lim_{x to 0+} frac{ln sin(x)}{ln tan(x)} = 1}$.






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      The domain of $ln x$ includes all positive values of $x$, so only the right-hand limit exists. If you want to find that, you can use L’Hôpital’s Rule.



      $$lim_{x to 0} frac{ln(sin x)}{ln(tan x)}$$



      $$implies frac{frac{1}{sin x}cos x}{frac{1}{tan x}sec^2 x} = frac{tan x}{sin x}cdot frac{cos x}{sec^2 x} = frac{1}{cos x}cdot cos^3 x = cos^2 x$$



      Now, what does $cos^2 x$ tend to as $x$ tends to $0$?






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        As noticed we need $x>0$ then



        $$frac{ln sin(x)}{ln tan(x)}=frac{ln frac{sin(x)}x+ln x}{ln frac{tan(x)}x+ln x}$$






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          As noticed we need $x>0$ then



          $$frac{ln sin(x)}{ln tan(x)}=frac{ln frac{sin(x)}x+ln x}{ln frac{tan(x)}x+ln x}$$






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            As noticed we need $x>0$ then



            $$frac{ln sin(x)}{ln tan(x)}=frac{ln frac{sin(x)}x+ln x}{ln frac{tan(x)}x+ln x}$$






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            As noticed we need $x>0$ then



            $$frac{ln sin(x)}{ln tan(x)}=frac{ln frac{sin(x)}x+ln x}{ln frac{tan(x)}x+ln x}$$







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                Just consider the reciprocal (for $x>0$):



                $$frac{ln tan x}{ln sin x} = frac{ln sin x - ln cos x}{ln sin x} =1- frac{ln cos x}{ln sin x} stackrel{x to 0^+}{longrightarrow} 1$$
                It follows $boxed{lim_{x to 0+} frac{ln sin(x)}{ln tan(x)} = 1}$.






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                  Just consider the reciprocal (for $x>0$):



                  $$frac{ln tan x}{ln sin x} = frac{ln sin x - ln cos x}{ln sin x} =1- frac{ln cos x}{ln sin x} stackrel{x to 0^+}{longrightarrow} 1$$
                  It follows $boxed{lim_{x to 0+} frac{ln sin(x)}{ln tan(x)} = 1}$.






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                    Just consider the reciprocal (for $x>0$):



                    $$frac{ln tan x}{ln sin x} = frac{ln sin x - ln cos x}{ln sin x} =1- frac{ln cos x}{ln sin x} stackrel{x to 0^+}{longrightarrow} 1$$
                    It follows $boxed{lim_{x to 0+} frac{ln sin(x)}{ln tan(x)} = 1}$.






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                    Just consider the reciprocal (for $x>0$):



                    $$frac{ln tan x}{ln sin x} = frac{ln sin x - ln cos x}{ln sin x} =1- frac{ln cos x}{ln sin x} stackrel{x to 0^+}{longrightarrow} 1$$
                    It follows $boxed{lim_{x to 0+} frac{ln sin(x)}{ln tan(x)} = 1}$.







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                        The domain of $ln x$ includes all positive values of $x$, so only the right-hand limit exists. If you want to find that, you can use L’Hôpital’s Rule.



                        $$lim_{x to 0} frac{ln(sin x)}{ln(tan x)}$$



                        $$implies frac{frac{1}{sin x}cos x}{frac{1}{tan x}sec^2 x} = frac{tan x}{sin x}cdot frac{cos x}{sec^2 x} = frac{1}{cos x}cdot cos^3 x = cos^2 x$$



                        Now, what does $cos^2 x$ tend to as $x$ tends to $0$?






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                          The domain of $ln x$ includes all positive values of $x$, so only the right-hand limit exists. If you want to find that, you can use L’Hôpital’s Rule.



                          $$lim_{x to 0} frac{ln(sin x)}{ln(tan x)}$$



                          $$implies frac{frac{1}{sin x}cos x}{frac{1}{tan x}sec^2 x} = frac{tan x}{sin x}cdot frac{cos x}{sec^2 x} = frac{1}{cos x}cdot cos^3 x = cos^2 x$$



                          Now, what does $cos^2 x$ tend to as $x$ tends to $0$?






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                            The domain of $ln x$ includes all positive values of $x$, so only the right-hand limit exists. If you want to find that, you can use L’Hôpital’s Rule.



                            $$lim_{x to 0} frac{ln(sin x)}{ln(tan x)}$$



                            $$implies frac{frac{1}{sin x}cos x}{frac{1}{tan x}sec^2 x} = frac{tan x}{sin x}cdot frac{cos x}{sec^2 x} = frac{1}{cos x}cdot cos^3 x = cos^2 x$$



                            Now, what does $cos^2 x$ tend to as $x$ tends to $0$?






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                            The domain of $ln x$ includes all positive values of $x$, so only the right-hand limit exists. If you want to find that, you can use L’Hôpital’s Rule.



                            $$lim_{x to 0} frac{ln(sin x)}{ln(tan x)}$$



                            $$implies frac{frac{1}{sin x}cos x}{frac{1}{tan x}sec^2 x} = frac{tan x}{sin x}cdot frac{cos x}{sec^2 x} = frac{1}{cos x}cdot cos^3 x = cos^2 x$$



                            Now, what does $cos^2 x$ tend to as $x$ tends to $0$?







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