If matrix $A in M_{m,n}$ and $n geq m$, matrix $X in M_{n,k}$, then when $A X = 0$ (nullspace) is true?











up vote
0
down vote

favorite












Please excuse me asking for the fundamental rank-nullity related problem.




If matrix $A in M_{m,n}$ and $n geq m$, matrix $X in M_{n,k}$, then when $A X = 0$ (nullspace) is true?




Can this be proved rigorously?





My thinking:



At least (necessary? and sufficient condition?) $n$ must be greater than $m$, that is $n > m$ such that $AX=0$. Am I thinking correct? or completely off-the track? But I don't know how to prove it rigorously Thank you so much.










share|cite|improve this question


















  • 1




    I think you're off-track. Necessary & sufficient is that each column of $X$ be in the nullspace of $A$.
    – Gerry Myerson
    Nov 23 at 6:35










  • Thanks for the clarification, Gerry! However, what are the requirements on the matrix $A$ and also $X$ such that the column of $X$ lie in the $mathcal{N}(A)$? I hope my question makes sense to you.
    – learning
    Nov 23 at 9:56






  • 1




    I don't know of any better way of requiring the columns of $X$ to lie in the nullspace of $A$, than to require that the columns of $X$ lie in the nullspace of $A$. I suppose you could say every column of $X$ has to be orthogonal to every row of $A$ – is that any better? What kind of answer are you hoping for?
    – Gerry Myerson
    Nov 23 at 10:16










  • I get it now. Thank you very much, Gerry.
    – learning
    Nov 23 at 10:21















up vote
0
down vote

favorite












Please excuse me asking for the fundamental rank-nullity related problem.




If matrix $A in M_{m,n}$ and $n geq m$, matrix $X in M_{n,k}$, then when $A X = 0$ (nullspace) is true?




Can this be proved rigorously?





My thinking:



At least (necessary? and sufficient condition?) $n$ must be greater than $m$, that is $n > m$ such that $AX=0$. Am I thinking correct? or completely off-the track? But I don't know how to prove it rigorously Thank you so much.










share|cite|improve this question


















  • 1




    I think you're off-track. Necessary & sufficient is that each column of $X$ be in the nullspace of $A$.
    – Gerry Myerson
    Nov 23 at 6:35










  • Thanks for the clarification, Gerry! However, what are the requirements on the matrix $A$ and also $X$ such that the column of $X$ lie in the $mathcal{N}(A)$? I hope my question makes sense to you.
    – learning
    Nov 23 at 9:56






  • 1




    I don't know of any better way of requiring the columns of $X$ to lie in the nullspace of $A$, than to require that the columns of $X$ lie in the nullspace of $A$. I suppose you could say every column of $X$ has to be orthogonal to every row of $A$ – is that any better? What kind of answer are you hoping for?
    – Gerry Myerson
    Nov 23 at 10:16










  • I get it now. Thank you very much, Gerry.
    – learning
    Nov 23 at 10:21













up vote
0
down vote

favorite









up vote
0
down vote

favorite











Please excuse me asking for the fundamental rank-nullity related problem.




If matrix $A in M_{m,n}$ and $n geq m$, matrix $X in M_{n,k}$, then when $A X = 0$ (nullspace) is true?




Can this be proved rigorously?





My thinking:



At least (necessary? and sufficient condition?) $n$ must be greater than $m$, that is $n > m$ such that $AX=0$. Am I thinking correct? or completely off-the track? But I don't know how to prove it rigorously Thank you so much.










share|cite|improve this question













Please excuse me asking for the fundamental rank-nullity related problem.




If matrix $A in M_{m,n}$ and $n geq m$, matrix $X in M_{n,k}$, then when $A X = 0$ (nullspace) is true?




Can this be proved rigorously?





My thinking:



At least (necessary? and sufficient condition?) $n$ must be greater than $m$, that is $n > m$ such that $AX=0$. Am I thinking correct? or completely off-the track? But I don't know how to prove it rigorously Thank you so much.







linear-algebra






share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question











share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question










asked Nov 23 at 6:16









learning

255




255








  • 1




    I think you're off-track. Necessary & sufficient is that each column of $X$ be in the nullspace of $A$.
    – Gerry Myerson
    Nov 23 at 6:35










  • Thanks for the clarification, Gerry! However, what are the requirements on the matrix $A$ and also $X$ such that the column of $X$ lie in the $mathcal{N}(A)$? I hope my question makes sense to you.
    – learning
    Nov 23 at 9:56






  • 1




    I don't know of any better way of requiring the columns of $X$ to lie in the nullspace of $A$, than to require that the columns of $X$ lie in the nullspace of $A$. I suppose you could say every column of $X$ has to be orthogonal to every row of $A$ – is that any better? What kind of answer are you hoping for?
    – Gerry Myerson
    Nov 23 at 10:16










  • I get it now. Thank you very much, Gerry.
    – learning
    Nov 23 at 10:21














  • 1




    I think you're off-track. Necessary & sufficient is that each column of $X$ be in the nullspace of $A$.
    – Gerry Myerson
    Nov 23 at 6:35










  • Thanks for the clarification, Gerry! However, what are the requirements on the matrix $A$ and also $X$ such that the column of $X$ lie in the $mathcal{N}(A)$? I hope my question makes sense to you.
    – learning
    Nov 23 at 9:56






  • 1




    I don't know of any better way of requiring the columns of $X$ to lie in the nullspace of $A$, than to require that the columns of $X$ lie in the nullspace of $A$. I suppose you could say every column of $X$ has to be orthogonal to every row of $A$ – is that any better? What kind of answer are you hoping for?
    – Gerry Myerson
    Nov 23 at 10:16










  • I get it now. Thank you very much, Gerry.
    – learning
    Nov 23 at 10:21








1




1




I think you're off-track. Necessary & sufficient is that each column of $X$ be in the nullspace of $A$.
– Gerry Myerson
Nov 23 at 6:35




I think you're off-track. Necessary & sufficient is that each column of $X$ be in the nullspace of $A$.
– Gerry Myerson
Nov 23 at 6:35












Thanks for the clarification, Gerry! However, what are the requirements on the matrix $A$ and also $X$ such that the column of $X$ lie in the $mathcal{N}(A)$? I hope my question makes sense to you.
– learning
Nov 23 at 9:56




Thanks for the clarification, Gerry! However, what are the requirements on the matrix $A$ and also $X$ such that the column of $X$ lie in the $mathcal{N}(A)$? I hope my question makes sense to you.
– learning
Nov 23 at 9:56




1




1




I don't know of any better way of requiring the columns of $X$ to lie in the nullspace of $A$, than to require that the columns of $X$ lie in the nullspace of $A$. I suppose you could say every column of $X$ has to be orthogonal to every row of $A$ – is that any better? What kind of answer are you hoping for?
– Gerry Myerson
Nov 23 at 10:16




I don't know of any better way of requiring the columns of $X$ to lie in the nullspace of $A$, than to require that the columns of $X$ lie in the nullspace of $A$. I suppose you could say every column of $X$ has to be orthogonal to every row of $A$ – is that any better? What kind of answer are you hoping for?
– Gerry Myerson
Nov 23 at 10:16












I get it now. Thank you very much, Gerry.
– learning
Nov 23 at 10:21




I get it now. Thank you very much, Gerry.
– learning
Nov 23 at 10:21















active

oldest

votes











Your Answer





StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});














draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3010030%2fif-matrix-a-in-m-m-n-and-n-geq-m-matrix-x-in-m-n-k-then-when-a-x%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown






























active

oldest

votes













active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes
















draft saved

draft discarded




















































Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.





Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.


Please pay close attention to the following guidance:


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3010030%2fif-matrix-a-in-m-m-n-and-n-geq-m-matrix-x-in-m-n-k-then-when-a-x%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







Popular posts from this blog

Bundesstraße 106

Verónica Boquete

Ida-Boy-Ed-Garten