Zeros of largest root of a parametrized family of polynomials












3














$newcommand{a}{alpha} newcommand{bb}{mathbb} newcommand{b}{beta}$
The question originates from a comment by reuns of this question Geometry of the set of coefficients such that monic polynomials have roots within unit disk.



Let $a = (a_0, dots, a_{n-1}) in bb R^n$ be fixed and $a neq 0$. We consider the parametrized family of monic polynomials with degree $n$
$$ f(r, z) = z^n + ra_{n-1} z^{n-1} + dots + r a_1 z + r a_0,$$
where $r in bb R$.



For each $r in bb R$, let $L(r)$ denote the largest modulus of roots of $f(r, z)$. $L(r)$ is not a polynomial in $r$ (Is the largest root of a parametrized family of polynomials again polynomial?). But $L(r)$ should be a continuous function over $r$. I am wondering whether the number of zeros of $L(r) - 1$ is finite.



Following was some wrong attempt. See the question and comments here If coefficients are polynomial functions over $mathbb R$ of a monic polynomial, can we find $n$ continuous functions that constitute the roots?.
I think the zeros should be finite. Informally, we can consider
$$ f(r, z) = z^n + a_{n-1}(r) z^{n-1} + dots + a_1(r) + a_0(r).$$
This just rewrites $r a_i$ as a function over $r$. Since we only consider $r in bb R$, there exists $n$ continuous functions $b_0(r), dots, b_{n-1}(r)$, that for each $r in bb R$, constitutes the roots of $f(r, z)$. By Vieta's formula, all $b_j(r)$ should be polynomial functions in $r$ (This part I feel is problematic). Then for each $j$, $b_j(r) - 1$ would have at most $n$ zeros. The worst scenario would be these zeros happening in separate manner in the sense: the zeros of $b_j(r) -1 $ are those $r$'s that $b_j(r)$ also is the largest root of modulus. This gives us $n^2$ zeros of $L(r) -1 $. Is this argument correct? Could a tighter bound be provided?





Edit: Before I started the bounty, there is one answer by Akari Gale which I am not sure of . This is one of the reasons I started a bounty. As of now, there is one downvote of that answer. Could someone leave a comment on why the answer is not OK? Thanks.










share|cite|improve this question
























  • Is $L(r)$ one of the largest roots (largest in modulus), or is it the modulus of the largest root?
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:54










  • In the former case, there is no reason (in general) for the largest root to be continuous
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:54










  • @Federico: I want it to define it in the way: we take the modulus of all the roots and then take the maximum. Because the roots can be complex, how do we make sense of "largest root"?
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 18:58










  • Consider for instance $[x-(-1+t)][x-(1+t)]$. The root with the largest modulus jumps from $-1+t$ for $t<0$ to $1+t$ for $t>0$
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:59










  • I know, but is your $L(r)$ one of the roots with the largest modulus, or is it the modulus itself?
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 19:00
















3














$newcommand{a}{alpha} newcommand{bb}{mathbb} newcommand{b}{beta}$
The question originates from a comment by reuns of this question Geometry of the set of coefficients such that monic polynomials have roots within unit disk.



Let $a = (a_0, dots, a_{n-1}) in bb R^n$ be fixed and $a neq 0$. We consider the parametrized family of monic polynomials with degree $n$
$$ f(r, z) = z^n + ra_{n-1} z^{n-1} + dots + r a_1 z + r a_0,$$
where $r in bb R$.



For each $r in bb R$, let $L(r)$ denote the largest modulus of roots of $f(r, z)$. $L(r)$ is not a polynomial in $r$ (Is the largest root of a parametrized family of polynomials again polynomial?). But $L(r)$ should be a continuous function over $r$. I am wondering whether the number of zeros of $L(r) - 1$ is finite.



Following was some wrong attempt. See the question and comments here If coefficients are polynomial functions over $mathbb R$ of a monic polynomial, can we find $n$ continuous functions that constitute the roots?.
I think the zeros should be finite. Informally, we can consider
$$ f(r, z) = z^n + a_{n-1}(r) z^{n-1} + dots + a_1(r) + a_0(r).$$
This just rewrites $r a_i$ as a function over $r$. Since we only consider $r in bb R$, there exists $n$ continuous functions $b_0(r), dots, b_{n-1}(r)$, that for each $r in bb R$, constitutes the roots of $f(r, z)$. By Vieta's formula, all $b_j(r)$ should be polynomial functions in $r$ (This part I feel is problematic). Then for each $j$, $b_j(r) - 1$ would have at most $n$ zeros. The worst scenario would be these zeros happening in separate manner in the sense: the zeros of $b_j(r) -1 $ are those $r$'s that $b_j(r)$ also is the largest root of modulus. This gives us $n^2$ zeros of $L(r) -1 $. Is this argument correct? Could a tighter bound be provided?





Edit: Before I started the bounty, there is one answer by Akari Gale which I am not sure of . This is one of the reasons I started a bounty. As of now, there is one downvote of that answer. Could someone leave a comment on why the answer is not OK? Thanks.










share|cite|improve this question
























  • Is $L(r)$ one of the largest roots (largest in modulus), or is it the modulus of the largest root?
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:54










  • In the former case, there is no reason (in general) for the largest root to be continuous
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:54










  • @Federico: I want it to define it in the way: we take the modulus of all the roots and then take the maximum. Because the roots can be complex, how do we make sense of "largest root"?
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 18:58










  • Consider for instance $[x-(-1+t)][x-(1+t)]$. The root with the largest modulus jumps from $-1+t$ for $t<0$ to $1+t$ for $t>0$
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:59










  • I know, but is your $L(r)$ one of the roots with the largest modulus, or is it the modulus itself?
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 19:00














3












3








3


2





$newcommand{a}{alpha} newcommand{bb}{mathbb} newcommand{b}{beta}$
The question originates from a comment by reuns of this question Geometry of the set of coefficients such that monic polynomials have roots within unit disk.



Let $a = (a_0, dots, a_{n-1}) in bb R^n$ be fixed and $a neq 0$. We consider the parametrized family of monic polynomials with degree $n$
$$ f(r, z) = z^n + ra_{n-1} z^{n-1} + dots + r a_1 z + r a_0,$$
where $r in bb R$.



For each $r in bb R$, let $L(r)$ denote the largest modulus of roots of $f(r, z)$. $L(r)$ is not a polynomial in $r$ (Is the largest root of a parametrized family of polynomials again polynomial?). But $L(r)$ should be a continuous function over $r$. I am wondering whether the number of zeros of $L(r) - 1$ is finite.



Following was some wrong attempt. See the question and comments here If coefficients are polynomial functions over $mathbb R$ of a monic polynomial, can we find $n$ continuous functions that constitute the roots?.
I think the zeros should be finite. Informally, we can consider
$$ f(r, z) = z^n + a_{n-1}(r) z^{n-1} + dots + a_1(r) + a_0(r).$$
This just rewrites $r a_i$ as a function over $r$. Since we only consider $r in bb R$, there exists $n$ continuous functions $b_0(r), dots, b_{n-1}(r)$, that for each $r in bb R$, constitutes the roots of $f(r, z)$. By Vieta's formula, all $b_j(r)$ should be polynomial functions in $r$ (This part I feel is problematic). Then for each $j$, $b_j(r) - 1$ would have at most $n$ zeros. The worst scenario would be these zeros happening in separate manner in the sense: the zeros of $b_j(r) -1 $ are those $r$'s that $b_j(r)$ also is the largest root of modulus. This gives us $n^2$ zeros of $L(r) -1 $. Is this argument correct? Could a tighter bound be provided?





Edit: Before I started the bounty, there is one answer by Akari Gale which I am not sure of . This is one of the reasons I started a bounty. As of now, there is one downvote of that answer. Could someone leave a comment on why the answer is not OK? Thanks.










share|cite|improve this question















$newcommand{a}{alpha} newcommand{bb}{mathbb} newcommand{b}{beta}$
The question originates from a comment by reuns of this question Geometry of the set of coefficients such that monic polynomials have roots within unit disk.



Let $a = (a_0, dots, a_{n-1}) in bb R^n$ be fixed and $a neq 0$. We consider the parametrized family of monic polynomials with degree $n$
$$ f(r, z) = z^n + ra_{n-1} z^{n-1} + dots + r a_1 z + r a_0,$$
where $r in bb R$.



For each $r in bb R$, let $L(r)$ denote the largest modulus of roots of $f(r, z)$. $L(r)$ is not a polynomial in $r$ (Is the largest root of a parametrized family of polynomials again polynomial?). But $L(r)$ should be a continuous function over $r$. I am wondering whether the number of zeros of $L(r) - 1$ is finite.



Following was some wrong attempt. See the question and comments here If coefficients are polynomial functions over $mathbb R$ of a monic polynomial, can we find $n$ continuous functions that constitute the roots?.
I think the zeros should be finite. Informally, we can consider
$$ f(r, z) = z^n + a_{n-1}(r) z^{n-1} + dots + a_1(r) + a_0(r).$$
This just rewrites $r a_i$ as a function over $r$. Since we only consider $r in bb R$, there exists $n$ continuous functions $b_0(r), dots, b_{n-1}(r)$, that for each $r in bb R$, constitutes the roots of $f(r, z)$. By Vieta's formula, all $b_j(r)$ should be polynomial functions in $r$ (This part I feel is problematic). Then for each $j$, $b_j(r) - 1$ would have at most $n$ zeros. The worst scenario would be these zeros happening in separate manner in the sense: the zeros of $b_j(r) -1 $ are those $r$'s that $b_j(r)$ also is the largest root of modulus. This gives us $n^2$ zeros of $L(r) -1 $. Is this argument correct? Could a tighter bound be provided?





Edit: Before I started the bounty, there is one answer by Akari Gale which I am not sure of . This is one of the reasons I started a bounty. As of now, there is one downvote of that answer. Could someone leave a comment on why the answer is not OK? Thanks.







linear-algebra abstract-algebra polynomials






share|cite|improve this question















share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question








edited Nov 30 at 5:02

























asked Nov 27 at 0:00









user1101010

7571630




7571630












  • Is $L(r)$ one of the largest roots (largest in modulus), or is it the modulus of the largest root?
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:54










  • In the former case, there is no reason (in general) for the largest root to be continuous
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:54










  • @Federico: I want it to define it in the way: we take the modulus of all the roots and then take the maximum. Because the roots can be complex, how do we make sense of "largest root"?
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 18:58










  • Consider for instance $[x-(-1+t)][x-(1+t)]$. The root with the largest modulus jumps from $-1+t$ for $t<0$ to $1+t$ for $t>0$
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:59










  • I know, but is your $L(r)$ one of the roots with the largest modulus, or is it the modulus itself?
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 19:00


















  • Is $L(r)$ one of the largest roots (largest in modulus), or is it the modulus of the largest root?
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:54










  • In the former case, there is no reason (in general) for the largest root to be continuous
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:54










  • @Federico: I want it to define it in the way: we take the modulus of all the roots and then take the maximum. Because the roots can be complex, how do we make sense of "largest root"?
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 18:58










  • Consider for instance $[x-(-1+t)][x-(1+t)]$. The root with the largest modulus jumps from $-1+t$ for $t<0$ to $1+t$ for $t>0$
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 18:59










  • I know, but is your $L(r)$ one of the roots with the largest modulus, or is it the modulus itself?
    – Federico
    Nov 27 at 19:00
















Is $L(r)$ one of the largest roots (largest in modulus), or is it the modulus of the largest root?
– Federico
Nov 27 at 18:54




Is $L(r)$ one of the largest roots (largest in modulus), or is it the modulus of the largest root?
– Federico
Nov 27 at 18:54












In the former case, there is no reason (in general) for the largest root to be continuous
– Federico
Nov 27 at 18:54




In the former case, there is no reason (in general) for the largest root to be continuous
– Federico
Nov 27 at 18:54












@Federico: I want it to define it in the way: we take the modulus of all the roots and then take the maximum. Because the roots can be complex, how do we make sense of "largest root"?
– user1101010
Nov 27 at 18:58




@Federico: I want it to define it in the way: we take the modulus of all the roots and then take the maximum. Because the roots can be complex, how do we make sense of "largest root"?
– user1101010
Nov 27 at 18:58












Consider for instance $[x-(-1+t)][x-(1+t)]$. The root with the largest modulus jumps from $-1+t$ for $t<0$ to $1+t$ for $t>0$
– Federico
Nov 27 at 18:59




Consider for instance $[x-(-1+t)][x-(1+t)]$. The root with the largest modulus jumps from $-1+t$ for $t<0$ to $1+t$ for $t>0$
– Federico
Nov 27 at 18:59












I know, but is your $L(r)$ one of the roots with the largest modulus, or is it the modulus itself?
– Federico
Nov 27 at 19:00




I know, but is your $L(r)$ one of the roots with the largest modulus, or is it the modulus itself?
– Federico
Nov 27 at 19:00










1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes


















2





+100









If $L(r) = 1$ for some $r$, then $z=cos(x) + isin(x)$ is a root of $f(r, z)$ for some $x in mathbb{R}$. We can write
$$0 = z^n + ralpha_{n-1}z^{n-1} + ... + ralpha_1z + ralpha_0 Rightarrow r =-frac{-1}{alpha_{n-1}z^{-1} + ... + alpha_1z^{-n+1} + alpha_0z^{-n}}$$
so
$$alpha_{n-1}z^{-1} + ... + alpha_1z^{-n+1} + alpha_0z^{-n} in mathbb{R} Rightarrow $$
$$alpha_{n-1}sin(-x) + ... + alpha_1 sin((-n+1)x) + alpha_0 sin(-nx) = 0 Rightarrow$$
$$alpha_{n-1} sin(x) + ... + alpha_1 sin((n-1)x) + alpha_0 sin(nx) = 0$$
It can be written in the form $P(sin(x), cos(x)) = 0$ for $P in mathbb{R}[X, Y]$ using multiple-angle formulas. Or $P(frac{1-t^2}{1+t^2}, frac{2t}{1+t^2}) = 0$



If this polynomial after multiplication by $(1 + t^2)^n$ is not zero, then for r there is only a finite number of possible values.






share|cite|improve this answer























  • First, thanks for attempting the question. But the roots can be complex.
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 19:10










  • I edited the answer
    – Akari Gale
    Nov 27 at 20:37










  • Could you elaborate how your write the equation in $y$ as a polynomial equation for $P in mathbb R[X, Y]$? Also I do not understand your last paragraph. Thanks.
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 20:40






  • 1




    Using this mathworld.wolfram.com/Multiple-AngleFormulas.html. Since r is expressed in terms of t, a finite number of roots means a finite number of possible values for r
    – Akari Gale
    Nov 27 at 20:43






  • 1




    To have a root of absolute value 1 is a necessary condition. This is the answer to the question about the finiteness of solutions of the equation.
    – Akari Gale
    Dec 2 at 11:21











Your Answer





StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});














draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3015124%2fzeros-of-largest-root-of-a-parametrized-family-of-polynomials%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown

























1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes








1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes









2





+100









If $L(r) = 1$ for some $r$, then $z=cos(x) + isin(x)$ is a root of $f(r, z)$ for some $x in mathbb{R}$. We can write
$$0 = z^n + ralpha_{n-1}z^{n-1} + ... + ralpha_1z + ralpha_0 Rightarrow r =-frac{-1}{alpha_{n-1}z^{-1} + ... + alpha_1z^{-n+1} + alpha_0z^{-n}}$$
so
$$alpha_{n-1}z^{-1} + ... + alpha_1z^{-n+1} + alpha_0z^{-n} in mathbb{R} Rightarrow $$
$$alpha_{n-1}sin(-x) + ... + alpha_1 sin((-n+1)x) + alpha_0 sin(-nx) = 0 Rightarrow$$
$$alpha_{n-1} sin(x) + ... + alpha_1 sin((n-1)x) + alpha_0 sin(nx) = 0$$
It can be written in the form $P(sin(x), cos(x)) = 0$ for $P in mathbb{R}[X, Y]$ using multiple-angle formulas. Or $P(frac{1-t^2}{1+t^2}, frac{2t}{1+t^2}) = 0$



If this polynomial after multiplication by $(1 + t^2)^n$ is not zero, then for r there is only a finite number of possible values.






share|cite|improve this answer























  • First, thanks for attempting the question. But the roots can be complex.
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 19:10










  • I edited the answer
    – Akari Gale
    Nov 27 at 20:37










  • Could you elaborate how your write the equation in $y$ as a polynomial equation for $P in mathbb R[X, Y]$? Also I do not understand your last paragraph. Thanks.
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 20:40






  • 1




    Using this mathworld.wolfram.com/Multiple-AngleFormulas.html. Since r is expressed in terms of t, a finite number of roots means a finite number of possible values for r
    – Akari Gale
    Nov 27 at 20:43






  • 1




    To have a root of absolute value 1 is a necessary condition. This is the answer to the question about the finiteness of solutions of the equation.
    – Akari Gale
    Dec 2 at 11:21
















2





+100









If $L(r) = 1$ for some $r$, then $z=cos(x) + isin(x)$ is a root of $f(r, z)$ for some $x in mathbb{R}$. We can write
$$0 = z^n + ralpha_{n-1}z^{n-1} + ... + ralpha_1z + ralpha_0 Rightarrow r =-frac{-1}{alpha_{n-1}z^{-1} + ... + alpha_1z^{-n+1} + alpha_0z^{-n}}$$
so
$$alpha_{n-1}z^{-1} + ... + alpha_1z^{-n+1} + alpha_0z^{-n} in mathbb{R} Rightarrow $$
$$alpha_{n-1}sin(-x) + ... + alpha_1 sin((-n+1)x) + alpha_0 sin(-nx) = 0 Rightarrow$$
$$alpha_{n-1} sin(x) + ... + alpha_1 sin((n-1)x) + alpha_0 sin(nx) = 0$$
It can be written in the form $P(sin(x), cos(x)) = 0$ for $P in mathbb{R}[X, Y]$ using multiple-angle formulas. Or $P(frac{1-t^2}{1+t^2}, frac{2t}{1+t^2}) = 0$



If this polynomial after multiplication by $(1 + t^2)^n$ is not zero, then for r there is only a finite number of possible values.






share|cite|improve this answer























  • First, thanks for attempting the question. But the roots can be complex.
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 19:10










  • I edited the answer
    – Akari Gale
    Nov 27 at 20:37










  • Could you elaborate how your write the equation in $y$ as a polynomial equation for $P in mathbb R[X, Y]$? Also I do not understand your last paragraph. Thanks.
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 20:40






  • 1




    Using this mathworld.wolfram.com/Multiple-AngleFormulas.html. Since r is expressed in terms of t, a finite number of roots means a finite number of possible values for r
    – Akari Gale
    Nov 27 at 20:43






  • 1




    To have a root of absolute value 1 is a necessary condition. This is the answer to the question about the finiteness of solutions of the equation.
    – Akari Gale
    Dec 2 at 11:21














2





+100







2





+100



2




+100




If $L(r) = 1$ for some $r$, then $z=cos(x) + isin(x)$ is a root of $f(r, z)$ for some $x in mathbb{R}$. We can write
$$0 = z^n + ralpha_{n-1}z^{n-1} + ... + ralpha_1z + ralpha_0 Rightarrow r =-frac{-1}{alpha_{n-1}z^{-1} + ... + alpha_1z^{-n+1} + alpha_0z^{-n}}$$
so
$$alpha_{n-1}z^{-1} + ... + alpha_1z^{-n+1} + alpha_0z^{-n} in mathbb{R} Rightarrow $$
$$alpha_{n-1}sin(-x) + ... + alpha_1 sin((-n+1)x) + alpha_0 sin(-nx) = 0 Rightarrow$$
$$alpha_{n-1} sin(x) + ... + alpha_1 sin((n-1)x) + alpha_0 sin(nx) = 0$$
It can be written in the form $P(sin(x), cos(x)) = 0$ for $P in mathbb{R}[X, Y]$ using multiple-angle formulas. Or $P(frac{1-t^2}{1+t^2}, frac{2t}{1+t^2}) = 0$



If this polynomial after multiplication by $(1 + t^2)^n$ is not zero, then for r there is only a finite number of possible values.






share|cite|improve this answer














If $L(r) = 1$ for some $r$, then $z=cos(x) + isin(x)$ is a root of $f(r, z)$ for some $x in mathbb{R}$. We can write
$$0 = z^n + ralpha_{n-1}z^{n-1} + ... + ralpha_1z + ralpha_0 Rightarrow r =-frac{-1}{alpha_{n-1}z^{-1} + ... + alpha_1z^{-n+1} + alpha_0z^{-n}}$$
so
$$alpha_{n-1}z^{-1} + ... + alpha_1z^{-n+1} + alpha_0z^{-n} in mathbb{R} Rightarrow $$
$$alpha_{n-1}sin(-x) + ... + alpha_1 sin((-n+1)x) + alpha_0 sin(-nx) = 0 Rightarrow$$
$$alpha_{n-1} sin(x) + ... + alpha_1 sin((n-1)x) + alpha_0 sin(nx) = 0$$
It can be written in the form $P(sin(x), cos(x)) = 0$ for $P in mathbb{R}[X, Y]$ using multiple-angle formulas. Or $P(frac{1-t^2}{1+t^2}, frac{2t}{1+t^2}) = 0$



If this polynomial after multiplication by $(1 + t^2)^n$ is not zero, then for r there is only a finite number of possible values.







share|cite|improve this answer














share|cite|improve this answer



share|cite|improve this answer








edited Nov 29 at 20:16

























answered Nov 27 at 19:01









Akari Gale

1096




1096












  • First, thanks for attempting the question. But the roots can be complex.
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 19:10










  • I edited the answer
    – Akari Gale
    Nov 27 at 20:37










  • Could you elaborate how your write the equation in $y$ as a polynomial equation for $P in mathbb R[X, Y]$? Also I do not understand your last paragraph. Thanks.
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 20:40






  • 1




    Using this mathworld.wolfram.com/Multiple-AngleFormulas.html. Since r is expressed in terms of t, a finite number of roots means a finite number of possible values for r
    – Akari Gale
    Nov 27 at 20:43






  • 1




    To have a root of absolute value 1 is a necessary condition. This is the answer to the question about the finiteness of solutions of the equation.
    – Akari Gale
    Dec 2 at 11:21


















  • First, thanks for attempting the question. But the roots can be complex.
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 19:10










  • I edited the answer
    – Akari Gale
    Nov 27 at 20:37










  • Could you elaborate how your write the equation in $y$ as a polynomial equation for $P in mathbb R[X, Y]$? Also I do not understand your last paragraph. Thanks.
    – user1101010
    Nov 27 at 20:40






  • 1




    Using this mathworld.wolfram.com/Multiple-AngleFormulas.html. Since r is expressed in terms of t, a finite number of roots means a finite number of possible values for r
    – Akari Gale
    Nov 27 at 20:43






  • 1




    To have a root of absolute value 1 is a necessary condition. This is the answer to the question about the finiteness of solutions of the equation.
    – Akari Gale
    Dec 2 at 11:21
















First, thanks for attempting the question. But the roots can be complex.
– user1101010
Nov 27 at 19:10




First, thanks for attempting the question. But the roots can be complex.
– user1101010
Nov 27 at 19:10












I edited the answer
– Akari Gale
Nov 27 at 20:37




I edited the answer
– Akari Gale
Nov 27 at 20:37












Could you elaborate how your write the equation in $y$ as a polynomial equation for $P in mathbb R[X, Y]$? Also I do not understand your last paragraph. Thanks.
– user1101010
Nov 27 at 20:40




Could you elaborate how your write the equation in $y$ as a polynomial equation for $P in mathbb R[X, Y]$? Also I do not understand your last paragraph. Thanks.
– user1101010
Nov 27 at 20:40




1




1




Using this mathworld.wolfram.com/Multiple-AngleFormulas.html. Since r is expressed in terms of t, a finite number of roots means a finite number of possible values for r
– Akari Gale
Nov 27 at 20:43




Using this mathworld.wolfram.com/Multiple-AngleFormulas.html. Since r is expressed in terms of t, a finite number of roots means a finite number of possible values for r
– Akari Gale
Nov 27 at 20:43




1




1




To have a root of absolute value 1 is a necessary condition. This is the answer to the question about the finiteness of solutions of the equation.
– Akari Gale
Dec 2 at 11:21




To have a root of absolute value 1 is a necessary condition. This is the answer to the question about the finiteness of solutions of the equation.
– Akari Gale
Dec 2 at 11:21


















draft saved

draft discarded




















































Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.





Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.


Please pay close attention to the following guidance:


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3015124%2fzeros-of-largest-root-of-a-parametrized-family-of-polynomials%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







Popular posts from this blog

Bundesstraße 106

Verónica Boquete

Ida-Boy-Ed-Garten