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Prove that any set of six positive integers whose sum is 13 must contain at least one subset whose sum is three.




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  • The question specifically asks for the use of Pigeon hole principle. Since each of the six numbers is not distinct, and a subset need not be of consecutive numbers, I couldn't really apply the principle. So far, I have established that there are 63 non-empty subsets, the sum of each of which lies between 1 and 13. Therefore, at least 5 subsets have the same sum. Removing the common elements from any two, we can get a pair of disjoint sets. But the problem is still not solved.
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    There are no sets of positive integers with six members whose sum is 13. (The elements of a set are distinct by definition.)
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Prove that any set of six positive integers whose sum is 13 must contain at least one subset whose sum is three.




My work. I am trying by using the Pigeon hole principle. I have proved that at least two non-empty disjoint subsets have the same sum but can't go any further.










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  • The question specifically asks for the use of Pigeon hole principle. Since each of the six numbers is not distinct, and a subset need not be of consecutive numbers, I couldn't really apply the principle. So far, I have established that there are 63 non-empty subsets, the sum of each of which lies between 1 and 13. Therefore, at least 5 subsets have the same sum. Removing the common elements from any two, we can get a pair of disjoint sets. But the problem is still not solved.
    – Divyansh Hardia
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Prove that any set of six positive integers whose sum is 13 must contain at least one subset whose sum is three.




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Prove that any set of six positive integers whose sum is 13 must contain at least one subset whose sum is three.




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  • Can you show your work? You will get better help.
    – tarit goswami
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  • The question specifically asks for the use of Pigeon hole principle. Since each of the six numbers is not distinct, and a subset need not be of consecutive numbers, I couldn't really apply the principle. So far, I have established that there are 63 non-empty subsets, the sum of each of which lies between 1 and 13. Therefore, at least 5 subsets have the same sum. Removing the common elements from any two, we can get a pair of disjoint sets. But the problem is still not solved.
    – Divyansh Hardia
    12 hours ago








  • 1




    There are no sets of positive integers with six members whose sum is 13. (The elements of a set are distinct by definition.)
    – David Hartley
    8 hours ago










  • Please consider identical elements.
    – Divyansh Hardia
    7 hours ago


















  • Can you show your work? You will get better help.
    – tarit goswami
    13 hours ago










  • The question specifically asks for the use of Pigeon hole principle. Since each of the six numbers is not distinct, and a subset need not be of consecutive numbers, I couldn't really apply the principle. So far, I have established that there are 63 non-empty subsets, the sum of each of which lies between 1 and 13. Therefore, at least 5 subsets have the same sum. Removing the common elements from any two, we can get a pair of disjoint sets. But the problem is still not solved.
    – Divyansh Hardia
    12 hours ago








  • 1




    There are no sets of positive integers with six members whose sum is 13. (The elements of a set are distinct by definition.)
    – David Hartley
    8 hours ago










  • Please consider identical elements.
    – Divyansh Hardia
    7 hours ago
















Can you show your work? You will get better help.
– tarit goswami
13 hours ago




Can you show your work? You will get better help.
– tarit goswami
13 hours ago












The question specifically asks for the use of Pigeon hole principle. Since each of the six numbers is not distinct, and a subset need not be of consecutive numbers, I couldn't really apply the principle. So far, I have established that there are 63 non-empty subsets, the sum of each of which lies between 1 and 13. Therefore, at least 5 subsets have the same sum. Removing the common elements from any two, we can get a pair of disjoint sets. But the problem is still not solved.
– Divyansh Hardia
12 hours ago






The question specifically asks for the use of Pigeon hole principle. Since each of the six numbers is not distinct, and a subset need not be of consecutive numbers, I couldn't really apply the principle. So far, I have established that there are 63 non-empty subsets, the sum of each of which lies between 1 and 13. Therefore, at least 5 subsets have the same sum. Removing the common elements from any two, we can get a pair of disjoint sets. But the problem is still not solved.
– Divyansh Hardia
12 hours ago






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There are no sets of positive integers with six members whose sum is 13. (The elements of a set are distinct by definition.)
– David Hartley
8 hours ago




There are no sets of positive integers with six members whose sum is 13. (The elements of a set are distinct by definition.)
– David Hartley
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Please consider identical elements.
– Divyansh Hardia
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Please consider identical elements.
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Hint. Let $1leq a_1leq a_2leq a_3leq a_4leq a_5leq a_6$. We know that $sum_{k=1}^n a_k=13$.



Now consider the following cases:



1) If $a_4geq 4$ then $$10=13-1-1-1geq 13-a_1-a_2-a_3\=a_4+a_5+a_6geq 4cdot 3=12$$
which is a contradiction.



2) If $a_4=3$ then ...



3) If $a_4leq 2$ then ...



I don't think that the Pigeonhole principle is strictly necessary here.






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  • I tried to do something similar, but starting with $a_1ge3$ and $a_1lt3$. However, the case ${2,2,2,2,2,3}$ was quite boring to solve. Does assuming properties on $a_3$ rather than $a_1$ help proving it quickly?
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(Not pigeonhole)The numbers in the set $S$ cannot all be distinct, because you will get more than 13 as sum otherwise. So there has to have repeat. The only way to get 3 is $1+2$, $1+1+1$ or $3$. so It suffices to show $S$ contains at least one 3 or at least three 1's or at least one 1 and one 2. Suppose not,



case 1: $S$ contains no 3 and less than three 1 and no 2. Then $S$ contains at most two 1 and the rest are at least 4 which is not possible.



case 2: $S$ contains no 3 and no 1. It is not possible again.



So $S$ contains at least one 3 or at least three 1's or at least one 1 and one 2. Then you can get a subset whose sum is 3?






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    Clearly, some of the elements in the set must be below $4$. (Otherwise, the sum would be at least $4 cdot 6 =24$.)



    Now we argue by contradiction. Suppose no subset has sum $3$. Then in particular, $3$ cannot occur in the set, and either $1$ or $2$ may not occur.



    Suppose $1$ does not occur. If all elements equal $2$, the sum is $12$ instead of $13$. If at least one element is at least $4$, then the sum is at least $2+2+2+2+2+4=14$, contradiction.



    Suppose $2$ does not occur. Note that there can be at most two $1$'s. So the total sum is at least $1+1+4+4+4+4=18$, contradiction.



    As each case leads to a contradiction, we conclude that our initial assumption that no subset has sum $3$ must be false.






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      The set cannot contain the number 3.



      Now consider how many of the numbers can be $ge 4$. Clearly there can not be more than three of them, or the sum would be $ge 13$. There can not be three either, because the sum of the other three numbers would be $ge 3$ and the sum of all 6 would be $ge 15$.



      So there are at most 2 numbers $ge 4$, i.e. there are at least 4 numbers $le 2$.



      If any of those four numbers is $1$, there is a subset ${1,2}$ or ${1,1,1}$ which sums to $3$.



      Therefore, there are at least $4$ numbers equal to $2$, and the other numbers are all $ge 4$.



      But that is impossible, because if all six numbers are equal to $2$ the sum is $12$, and if four or five are equal to 2 the sum is $ge 13$.






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        Represent the problem in the following manner.



        You have 6 pigeonholes (representing each integer) and 13 pigeons (the total sum). Each hole must have at least one pigeon for the integers to be positive, so you can equivalently consider a problem with 6 pigeonholes and 7 pigeons (with some holes possibly having zero pigeons). Hey, that's kinda familiar...



        By PHP, in the equivalent problem at least one hole must have 2 pigeons. Further, that hole can't have exactly 2 (since that'd represent 3 as a number), so it has to have at least 3.



        The rest is left as an exercise for the reader.



        Hint: is another hole is forced to have an exact number of pigeons now?






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          Hint. Let $1leq a_1leq a_2leq a_3leq a_4leq a_5leq a_6$. We know that $sum_{k=1}^n a_k=13$.



          Now consider the following cases:



          1) If $a_4geq 4$ then $$10=13-1-1-1geq 13-a_1-a_2-a_3\=a_4+a_5+a_6geq 4cdot 3=12$$
          which is a contradiction.



          2) If $a_4=3$ then ...



          3) If $a_4leq 2$ then ...



          I don't think that the Pigeonhole principle is strictly necessary here.






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          • I tried to do something similar, but starting with $a_1ge3$ and $a_1lt3$. However, the case ${2,2,2,2,2,3}$ was quite boring to solve. Does assuming properties on $a_3$ rather than $a_1$ help proving it quickly?
            – F.Carette
            12 hours ago










          • @F.Carette See my edit. Is it quicker?
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          • A bit quicker indeed! +1
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          Hint. Let $1leq a_1leq a_2leq a_3leq a_4leq a_5leq a_6$. We know that $sum_{k=1}^n a_k=13$.



          Now consider the following cases:



          1) If $a_4geq 4$ then $$10=13-1-1-1geq 13-a_1-a_2-a_3\=a_4+a_5+a_6geq 4cdot 3=12$$
          which is a contradiction.



          2) If $a_4=3$ then ...



          3) If $a_4leq 2$ then ...



          I don't think that the Pigeonhole principle is strictly necessary here.






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          • I tried to do something similar, but starting with $a_1ge3$ and $a_1lt3$. However, the case ${2,2,2,2,2,3}$ was quite boring to solve. Does assuming properties on $a_3$ rather than $a_1$ help proving it quickly?
            – F.Carette
            12 hours ago










          • @F.Carette See my edit. Is it quicker?
            – Robert Z
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          • A bit quicker indeed! +1
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          Hint. Let $1leq a_1leq a_2leq a_3leq a_4leq a_5leq a_6$. We know that $sum_{k=1}^n a_k=13$.



          Now consider the following cases:



          1) If $a_4geq 4$ then $$10=13-1-1-1geq 13-a_1-a_2-a_3\=a_4+a_5+a_6geq 4cdot 3=12$$
          which is a contradiction.



          2) If $a_4=3$ then ...



          3) If $a_4leq 2$ then ...



          I don't think that the Pigeonhole principle is strictly necessary here.






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          Hint. Let $1leq a_1leq a_2leq a_3leq a_4leq a_5leq a_6$. We know that $sum_{k=1}^n a_k=13$.



          Now consider the following cases:



          1) If $a_4geq 4$ then $$10=13-1-1-1geq 13-a_1-a_2-a_3\=a_4+a_5+a_6geq 4cdot 3=12$$
          which is a contradiction.



          2) If $a_4=3$ then ...



          3) If $a_4leq 2$ then ...



          I don't think that the Pigeonhole principle is strictly necessary here.







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          • I tried to do something similar, but starting with $a_1ge3$ and $a_1lt3$. However, the case ${2,2,2,2,2,3}$ was quite boring to solve. Does assuming properties on $a_3$ rather than $a_1$ help proving it quickly?
            – F.Carette
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          • @F.Carette See my edit. Is it quicker?
            – Robert Z
            12 hours ago










          • A bit quicker indeed! +1
            – F.Carette
            12 hours ago


















          • I tried to do something similar, but starting with $a_1ge3$ and $a_1lt3$. However, the case ${2,2,2,2,2,3}$ was quite boring to solve. Does assuming properties on $a_3$ rather than $a_1$ help proving it quickly?
            – F.Carette
            12 hours ago










          • @F.Carette See my edit. Is it quicker?
            – Robert Z
            12 hours ago










          • A bit quicker indeed! +1
            – F.Carette
            12 hours ago
















          I tried to do something similar, but starting with $a_1ge3$ and $a_1lt3$. However, the case ${2,2,2,2,2,3}$ was quite boring to solve. Does assuming properties on $a_3$ rather than $a_1$ help proving it quickly?
          – F.Carette
          12 hours ago




          I tried to do something similar, but starting with $a_1ge3$ and $a_1lt3$. However, the case ${2,2,2,2,2,3}$ was quite boring to solve. Does assuming properties on $a_3$ rather than $a_1$ help proving it quickly?
          – F.Carette
          12 hours ago












          @F.Carette See my edit. Is it quicker?
          – Robert Z
          12 hours ago




          @F.Carette See my edit. Is it quicker?
          – Robert Z
          12 hours ago












          A bit quicker indeed! +1
          – F.Carette
          12 hours ago




          A bit quicker indeed! +1
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          (Not pigeonhole)The numbers in the set $S$ cannot all be distinct, because you will get more than 13 as sum otherwise. So there has to have repeat. The only way to get 3 is $1+2$, $1+1+1$ or $3$. so It suffices to show $S$ contains at least one 3 or at least three 1's or at least one 1 and one 2. Suppose not,



          case 1: $S$ contains no 3 and less than three 1 and no 2. Then $S$ contains at most two 1 and the rest are at least 4 which is not possible.



          case 2: $S$ contains no 3 and no 1. It is not possible again.



          So $S$ contains at least one 3 or at least three 1's or at least one 1 and one 2. Then you can get a subset whose sum is 3?






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            (Not pigeonhole)The numbers in the set $S$ cannot all be distinct, because you will get more than 13 as sum otherwise. So there has to have repeat. The only way to get 3 is $1+2$, $1+1+1$ or $3$. so It suffices to show $S$ contains at least one 3 or at least three 1's or at least one 1 and one 2. Suppose not,



            case 1: $S$ contains no 3 and less than three 1 and no 2. Then $S$ contains at most two 1 and the rest are at least 4 which is not possible.



            case 2: $S$ contains no 3 and no 1. It is not possible again.



            So $S$ contains at least one 3 or at least three 1's or at least one 1 and one 2. Then you can get a subset whose sum is 3?






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              (Not pigeonhole)The numbers in the set $S$ cannot all be distinct, because you will get more than 13 as sum otherwise. So there has to have repeat. The only way to get 3 is $1+2$, $1+1+1$ or $3$. so It suffices to show $S$ contains at least one 3 or at least three 1's or at least one 1 and one 2. Suppose not,



              case 1: $S$ contains no 3 and less than three 1 and no 2. Then $S$ contains at most two 1 and the rest are at least 4 which is not possible.



              case 2: $S$ contains no 3 and no 1. It is not possible again.



              So $S$ contains at least one 3 or at least three 1's or at least one 1 and one 2. Then you can get a subset whose sum is 3?






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              (Not pigeonhole)The numbers in the set $S$ cannot all be distinct, because you will get more than 13 as sum otherwise. So there has to have repeat. The only way to get 3 is $1+2$, $1+1+1$ or $3$. so It suffices to show $S$ contains at least one 3 or at least three 1's or at least one 1 and one 2. Suppose not,



              case 1: $S$ contains no 3 and less than three 1 and no 2. Then $S$ contains at most two 1 and the rest are at least 4 which is not possible.



              case 2: $S$ contains no 3 and no 1. It is not possible again.



              So $S$ contains at least one 3 or at least three 1's or at least one 1 and one 2. Then you can get a subset whose sum is 3?







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                  Clearly, some of the elements in the set must be below $4$. (Otherwise, the sum would be at least $4 cdot 6 =24$.)



                  Now we argue by contradiction. Suppose no subset has sum $3$. Then in particular, $3$ cannot occur in the set, and either $1$ or $2$ may not occur.



                  Suppose $1$ does not occur. If all elements equal $2$, the sum is $12$ instead of $13$. If at least one element is at least $4$, then the sum is at least $2+2+2+2+2+4=14$, contradiction.



                  Suppose $2$ does not occur. Note that there can be at most two $1$'s. So the total sum is at least $1+1+4+4+4+4=18$, contradiction.



                  As each case leads to a contradiction, we conclude that our initial assumption that no subset has sum $3$ must be false.






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                    Clearly, some of the elements in the set must be below $4$. (Otherwise, the sum would be at least $4 cdot 6 =24$.)



                    Now we argue by contradiction. Suppose no subset has sum $3$. Then in particular, $3$ cannot occur in the set, and either $1$ or $2$ may not occur.



                    Suppose $1$ does not occur. If all elements equal $2$, the sum is $12$ instead of $13$. If at least one element is at least $4$, then the sum is at least $2+2+2+2+2+4=14$, contradiction.



                    Suppose $2$ does not occur. Note that there can be at most two $1$'s. So the total sum is at least $1+1+4+4+4+4=18$, contradiction.



                    As each case leads to a contradiction, we conclude that our initial assumption that no subset has sum $3$ must be false.






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                      Clearly, some of the elements in the set must be below $4$. (Otherwise, the sum would be at least $4 cdot 6 =24$.)



                      Now we argue by contradiction. Suppose no subset has sum $3$. Then in particular, $3$ cannot occur in the set, and either $1$ or $2$ may not occur.



                      Suppose $1$ does not occur. If all elements equal $2$, the sum is $12$ instead of $13$. If at least one element is at least $4$, then the sum is at least $2+2+2+2+2+4=14$, contradiction.



                      Suppose $2$ does not occur. Note that there can be at most two $1$'s. So the total sum is at least $1+1+4+4+4+4=18$, contradiction.



                      As each case leads to a contradiction, we conclude that our initial assumption that no subset has sum $3$ must be false.






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                      Clearly, some of the elements in the set must be below $4$. (Otherwise, the sum would be at least $4 cdot 6 =24$.)



                      Now we argue by contradiction. Suppose no subset has sum $3$. Then in particular, $3$ cannot occur in the set, and either $1$ or $2$ may not occur.



                      Suppose $1$ does not occur. If all elements equal $2$, the sum is $12$ instead of $13$. If at least one element is at least $4$, then the sum is at least $2+2+2+2+2+4=14$, contradiction.



                      Suppose $2$ does not occur. Note that there can be at most two $1$'s. So the total sum is at least $1+1+4+4+4+4=18$, contradiction.



                      As each case leads to a contradiction, we conclude that our initial assumption that no subset has sum $3$ must be false.







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                          The set cannot contain the number 3.



                          Now consider how many of the numbers can be $ge 4$. Clearly there can not be more than three of them, or the sum would be $ge 13$. There can not be three either, because the sum of the other three numbers would be $ge 3$ and the sum of all 6 would be $ge 15$.



                          So there are at most 2 numbers $ge 4$, i.e. there are at least 4 numbers $le 2$.



                          If any of those four numbers is $1$, there is a subset ${1,2}$ or ${1,1,1}$ which sums to $3$.



                          Therefore, there are at least $4$ numbers equal to $2$, and the other numbers are all $ge 4$.



                          But that is impossible, because if all six numbers are equal to $2$ the sum is $12$, and if four or five are equal to 2 the sum is $ge 13$.






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                            The set cannot contain the number 3.



                            Now consider how many of the numbers can be $ge 4$. Clearly there can not be more than three of them, or the sum would be $ge 13$. There can not be three either, because the sum of the other three numbers would be $ge 3$ and the sum of all 6 would be $ge 15$.



                            So there are at most 2 numbers $ge 4$, i.e. there are at least 4 numbers $le 2$.



                            If any of those four numbers is $1$, there is a subset ${1,2}$ or ${1,1,1}$ which sums to $3$.



                            Therefore, there are at least $4$ numbers equal to $2$, and the other numbers are all $ge 4$.



                            But that is impossible, because if all six numbers are equal to $2$ the sum is $12$, and if four or five are equal to 2 the sum is $ge 13$.






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                              The set cannot contain the number 3.



                              Now consider how many of the numbers can be $ge 4$. Clearly there can not be more than three of them, or the sum would be $ge 13$. There can not be three either, because the sum of the other three numbers would be $ge 3$ and the sum of all 6 would be $ge 15$.



                              So there are at most 2 numbers $ge 4$, i.e. there are at least 4 numbers $le 2$.



                              If any of those four numbers is $1$, there is a subset ${1,2}$ or ${1,1,1}$ which sums to $3$.



                              Therefore, there are at least $4$ numbers equal to $2$, and the other numbers are all $ge 4$.



                              But that is impossible, because if all six numbers are equal to $2$ the sum is $12$, and if four or five are equal to 2 the sum is $ge 13$.






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                              The set cannot contain the number 3.



                              Now consider how many of the numbers can be $ge 4$. Clearly there can not be more than three of them, or the sum would be $ge 13$. There can not be three either, because the sum of the other three numbers would be $ge 3$ and the sum of all 6 would be $ge 15$.



                              So there are at most 2 numbers $ge 4$, i.e. there are at least 4 numbers $le 2$.



                              If any of those four numbers is $1$, there is a subset ${1,2}$ or ${1,1,1}$ which sums to $3$.



                              Therefore, there are at least $4$ numbers equal to $2$, and the other numbers are all $ge 4$.



                              But that is impossible, because if all six numbers are equal to $2$ the sum is $12$, and if four or five are equal to 2 the sum is $ge 13$.







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                                  Represent the problem in the following manner.



                                  You have 6 pigeonholes (representing each integer) and 13 pigeons (the total sum). Each hole must have at least one pigeon for the integers to be positive, so you can equivalently consider a problem with 6 pigeonholes and 7 pigeons (with some holes possibly having zero pigeons). Hey, that's kinda familiar...



                                  By PHP, in the equivalent problem at least one hole must have 2 pigeons. Further, that hole can't have exactly 2 (since that'd represent 3 as a number), so it has to have at least 3.



                                  The rest is left as an exercise for the reader.



                                  Hint: is another hole is forced to have an exact number of pigeons now?






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                                    Represent the problem in the following manner.



                                    You have 6 pigeonholes (representing each integer) and 13 pigeons (the total sum). Each hole must have at least one pigeon for the integers to be positive, so you can equivalently consider a problem with 6 pigeonholes and 7 pigeons (with some holes possibly having zero pigeons). Hey, that's kinda familiar...



                                    By PHP, in the equivalent problem at least one hole must have 2 pigeons. Further, that hole can't have exactly 2 (since that'd represent 3 as a number), so it has to have at least 3.



                                    The rest is left as an exercise for the reader.



                                    Hint: is another hole is forced to have an exact number of pigeons now?






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                                      Represent the problem in the following manner.



                                      You have 6 pigeonholes (representing each integer) and 13 pigeons (the total sum). Each hole must have at least one pigeon for the integers to be positive, so you can equivalently consider a problem with 6 pigeonholes and 7 pigeons (with some holes possibly having zero pigeons). Hey, that's kinda familiar...



                                      By PHP, in the equivalent problem at least one hole must have 2 pigeons. Further, that hole can't have exactly 2 (since that'd represent 3 as a number), so it has to have at least 3.



                                      The rest is left as an exercise for the reader.



                                      Hint: is another hole is forced to have an exact number of pigeons now?






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                                      Represent the problem in the following manner.



                                      You have 6 pigeonholes (representing each integer) and 13 pigeons (the total sum). Each hole must have at least one pigeon for the integers to be positive, so you can equivalently consider a problem with 6 pigeonholes and 7 pigeons (with some holes possibly having zero pigeons). Hey, that's kinda familiar...



                                      By PHP, in the equivalent problem at least one hole must have 2 pigeons. Further, that hole can't have exactly 2 (since that'd represent 3 as a number), so it has to have at least 3.



                                      The rest is left as an exercise for the reader.



                                      Hint: is another hole is forced to have an exact number of pigeons now?







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