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I have a highly talented junior employee in the role of scrum master. She’s outperformed on most tasks and is starting to take on a larger role on the project. As the manager I’ve assigned multiple difficult technical tasks to a freelance architect who is a specialist in the software as am I. In the scrum call she blasted him to the team say he is three weeks late with a delivery and does not document the work which he does but she does not see the bigger picture and that her delivery was lower priority for him.
He is away on parental leave and was not expected to complete this work until he returned. The issue is partially his fault as culturally he never says no, but that is a different issue.
My other team members explicitly explained this to her as did I that he is performing well and it’s the third time she brings it up in the group.
When I tried to 1:1 with her to ask her to consider his situation and that she does not always complete her minor
tasks when it’s lower priority she said that I was being disrespectful. I agree that I could have used more tact but I was trying to get her to be a bit empathetic and to see the bigger picture. Which is the project is not impacted and to remember that we are a team and to respect each other.
She is very focused on excellence and anything less then perfect is likely to meet some criticism. Other team members have brought this concern to me before including one of the other managers on the program. She is young and self conscious but has a strong will and a lot of potential. How do I coach her out of becoming a brilliant jerk?
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I have a highly talented junior employee in the role of scrum master. She’s outperformed on most tasks and is starting to take on a larger role on the project. As the manager I’ve assigned multiple difficult technical tasks to a freelance architect who is a specialist in the software as am I. In the scrum call she blasted him to the team say he is three weeks late with a delivery and does not document the work which he does but she does not see the bigger picture and that her delivery was lower priority for him.
He is away on parental leave and was not expected to complete this work until he returned. The issue is partially his fault as culturally he never says no, but that is a different issue.
My other team members explicitly explained this to her as did I that he is performing well and it’s the third time she brings it up in the group.
When I tried to 1:1 with her to ask her to consider his situation and that she does not always complete her minor
tasks when it’s lower priority she said that I was being disrespectful. I agree that I could have used more tact but I was trying to get her to be a bit empathetic and to see the bigger picture. Which is the project is not impacted and to remember that we are a team and to respect each other.
She is very focused on excellence and anything less then perfect is likely to meet some criticism. Other team members have brought this concern to me before including one of the other managers on the program. She is young and self conscious but has a strong will and a lot of potential. How do I coach her out of becoming a brilliant jerk?
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Had she been told that this person was on parental leave? Were the architect's stories still in the sprint?
– cdkMoose
10 hours ago
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"When I tried to 1:1 with her to ask her to consider his situation and that she does not always complete her minor tasks when it’s lower priority she said that I was being disrespectful. " - does she often deflect from the issue when confronted with a mistake she made? Before deciding on a course of action, it's important to try and understand what is behind undesirable behavior. Perhaps she needs training and/or education. Perhaps she needs a reprimand. Perhaps she needs a mentor. Perhaps she needs to be put into a lesser role. Hard to tell without a lot more details.
– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago
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Yes she definitely deflects anything remotely close to a negative feedback.
– JPK
10 hours ago
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@JPK - could she be insecure? Maybe she needs to feel safe - that it's okay to make mistakes. Some younger folks haven't yet learned that.
– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago
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Somehow she doesn't sound like a good fit.
– gnasher729
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I have a highly talented junior employee in the role of scrum master. She’s outperformed on most tasks and is starting to take on a larger role on the project. As the manager I’ve assigned multiple difficult technical tasks to a freelance architect who is a specialist in the software as am I. In the scrum call she blasted him to the team say he is three weeks late with a delivery and does not document the work which he does but she does not see the bigger picture and that her delivery was lower priority for him.
He is away on parental leave and was not expected to complete this work until he returned. The issue is partially his fault as culturally he never says no, but that is a different issue.
My other team members explicitly explained this to her as did I that he is performing well and it’s the third time she brings it up in the group.
When I tried to 1:1 with her to ask her to consider his situation and that she does not always complete her minor
tasks when it’s lower priority she said that I was being disrespectful. I agree that I could have used more tact but I was trying to get her to be a bit empathetic and to see the bigger picture. Which is the project is not impacted and to remember that we are a team and to respect each other.
She is very focused on excellence and anything less then perfect is likely to meet some criticism. Other team members have brought this concern to me before including one of the other managers on the program. She is young and self conscious but has a strong will and a lot of potential. How do I coach her out of becoming a brilliant jerk?
junior parental-leave
I have a highly talented junior employee in the role of scrum master. She’s outperformed on most tasks and is starting to take on a larger role on the project. As the manager I’ve assigned multiple difficult technical tasks to a freelance architect who is a specialist in the software as am I. In the scrum call she blasted him to the team say he is three weeks late with a delivery and does not document the work which he does but she does not see the bigger picture and that her delivery was lower priority for him.
He is away on parental leave and was not expected to complete this work until he returned. The issue is partially his fault as culturally he never says no, but that is a different issue.
My other team members explicitly explained this to her as did I that he is performing well and it’s the third time she brings it up in the group.
When I tried to 1:1 with her to ask her to consider his situation and that she does not always complete her minor
tasks when it’s lower priority she said that I was being disrespectful. I agree that I could have used more tact but I was trying to get her to be a bit empathetic and to see the bigger picture. Which is the project is not impacted and to remember that we are a team and to respect each other.
She is very focused on excellence and anything less then perfect is likely to meet some criticism. Other team members have brought this concern to me before including one of the other managers on the program. She is young and self conscious but has a strong will and a lot of potential. How do I coach her out of becoming a brilliant jerk?
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Had she been told that this person was on parental leave? Were the architect's stories still in the sprint?
– cdkMoose
10 hours ago
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"When I tried to 1:1 with her to ask her to consider his situation and that she does not always complete her minor tasks when it’s lower priority she said that I was being disrespectful. " - does she often deflect from the issue when confronted with a mistake she made? Before deciding on a course of action, it's important to try and understand what is behind undesirable behavior. Perhaps she needs training and/or education. Perhaps she needs a reprimand. Perhaps she needs a mentor. Perhaps she needs to be put into a lesser role. Hard to tell without a lot more details.
– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago
1
Yes she definitely deflects anything remotely close to a negative feedback.
– JPK
10 hours ago
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@JPK - could she be insecure? Maybe she needs to feel safe - that it's okay to make mistakes. Some younger folks haven't yet learned that.
– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago
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Somehow she doesn't sound like a good fit.
– gnasher729
6 hours ago
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Had she been told that this person was on parental leave? Were the architect's stories still in the sprint?
– cdkMoose
10 hours ago
2
"When I tried to 1:1 with her to ask her to consider his situation and that she does not always complete her minor tasks when it’s lower priority she said that I was being disrespectful. " - does she often deflect from the issue when confronted with a mistake she made? Before deciding on a course of action, it's important to try and understand what is behind undesirable behavior. Perhaps she needs training and/or education. Perhaps she needs a reprimand. Perhaps she needs a mentor. Perhaps she needs to be put into a lesser role. Hard to tell without a lot more details.
– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago
1
Yes she definitely deflects anything remotely close to a negative feedback.
– JPK
10 hours ago
1
@JPK - could she be insecure? Maybe she needs to feel safe - that it's okay to make mistakes. Some younger folks haven't yet learned that.
– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago
1
Somehow she doesn't sound like a good fit.
– gnasher729
6 hours ago
1
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Had she been told that this person was on parental leave? Were the architect's stories still in the sprint?
– cdkMoose
10 hours ago
Had she been told that this person was on parental leave? Were the architect's stories still in the sprint?
– cdkMoose
10 hours ago
2
2
"When I tried to 1:1 with her to ask her to consider his situation and that she does not always complete her minor tasks when it’s lower priority she said that I was being disrespectful. " - does she often deflect from the issue when confronted with a mistake she made? Before deciding on a course of action, it's important to try and understand what is behind undesirable behavior. Perhaps she needs training and/or education. Perhaps she needs a reprimand. Perhaps she needs a mentor. Perhaps she needs to be put into a lesser role. Hard to tell without a lot more details.
– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago
"When I tried to 1:1 with her to ask her to consider his situation and that she does not always complete her minor tasks when it’s lower priority she said that I was being disrespectful. " - does she often deflect from the issue when confronted with a mistake she made? Before deciding on a course of action, it's important to try and understand what is behind undesirable behavior. Perhaps she needs training and/or education. Perhaps she needs a reprimand. Perhaps she needs a mentor. Perhaps she needs to be put into a lesser role. Hard to tell without a lot more details.
– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago
1
1
Yes she definitely deflects anything remotely close to a negative feedback.
– JPK
10 hours ago
Yes she definitely deflects anything remotely close to a negative feedback.
– JPK
10 hours ago
1
1
@JPK - could she be insecure? Maybe she needs to feel safe - that it's okay to make mistakes. Some younger folks haven't yet learned that.
– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago
@JPK - could she be insecure? Maybe she needs to feel safe - that it's okay to make mistakes. Some younger folks haven't yet learned that.
– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago
1
1
Somehow she doesn't sound like a good fit.
– gnasher729
6 hours ago
Somehow she doesn't sound like a good fit.
– gnasher729
6 hours ago
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When I read the title I thought you meant a highly intelligent person who is critical of her seniors and is right in her criticism.
However, if the architect wasn't expected to and wasn't paid for working on the tasks she accused him of not performing, the feedback she gave him was unfair. Unfair feedback can affect team performance by creating unnecessary drama. It can affect team members' motivation and your employee's standing in the team. Not to mention that you can lose a good, as I understand, contractor because of that.
You first need to analyse whether it was a one-time mistake or she tends to be unfair and not fact-based frequently.
If it happened one time, don't care too much. If it repeats you need to talk to her.
I'm a highly critical person myself. I have very high standards and hate it when people don't fulfil them. However, I use the same high standards for myself and was mortified when I made a mistake some time ago. Holding oneself to the same rigorous standards one use for others is really a necessary thing if one doesn't want to be seen as a jerk and avoided.
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As someone who also does this fairly regularly (although I've learned to phrase my "blasting people" into more a more generalized tone, focusing on the problem and not the person), I can empathize with her. Based on my experiences, here's what I would do:
1) Encourage her to focus on processes, not people. Rather than "Joe was late with the widget constructor", it should be "The widget constructor was late".
2) Explain the freelancer's situation. She will understand. She won't respect it, but she will at least gain perspective. However, if you think this is going to be a good enough answer for her, it isn't. Don't try to frame it as "you should accept Joe being late because XYZ", you should frame it as "Joe was late, and that's a problem. But you should understand XYZ before you go off the rails".
3) People like her (and me) just want everything to go smoothly the first time. This is important both for us and for you. The reason why we want it to go well is because, if it doesn't go well, then someone has to pick up the slack, and that person might be us. Why should we have to pick up the pieces of someone else's disaster? Have them do it right the first time, and then everything will go well. From a business perspective. if you build something poorly, then you're going to have to spend more time building it right the next time. That's more time it will take, and more money it will cost the business paying our salaries to do the same job twice. So you should care deeply about what she has to say, not only because she is saying it, but also because there are good reasons behind it.
4) Regarding this case in particular, presumably this person was waiting on Joe to finish his task before she could do her own task; she was dependent on Joe in some way. The amount of time Joe was late was time she spent twiddling her thumbs doing nothing, and people like me hate that. It's the worst feeling to be sitting in an office for 8 hours a day with nothing to do waiting on something that should have been done a week ago. We have stuff to do, there's Netflix to watch, exercise to engage in, laundry to wash, cooking to do, grocery shopping, and so on, and she's stuck at work at her desk doing nothing because Joe is late (yes, she'd be at her desk even if Joe was on time; the important part is the "doing nothing" part, which feels like a waste of time that could be better spent elsewhere). It's highly frustrating (to be honest, at the moment I'm in a similar situation which is why I'm even bothering to write this in the first place).
5) She understands that the past is the past, and she can't retroactively make Joe get his work done faster. However, she would really like it if, if Joe is going to take 3 weeks parental leave, then Joe should not commit to finishing his task until his parental leave is done. Then everyone can plan and schedule properly, and she as the Scrum Master can reprioritize work based on what will be done and when, in a proper way. She just wants everything to go smoothly, and she sees Joe as preventing her from doing that.
6) You, as the manager, should want the same thing she does, so you're working in the same direction but seem to be at odds. Therefore you, as the manager, should explain you understand her frustrations, explain to her a better way to handle herself so as not to appear so abrasive in future, and you should help her in future situations like this, e.g. by explaining "Joe is on parental leave for 3 weeks, let's not schedule things dependent on him for that period of time".
7) As for what to do with Joe, you should explain to Joe that he needs to say no. It's not a matter of looking bad or whatever, it's a matter of scheduling. If he says that he will be done a project in a week and it takes 2, then the people dependent on him to do their work in that second week will be blocked. That costs money for the business paying the salaries of people who are blocked and wasting cycles. Explain to Joe that if he can't do it, then it is better for the team for him to say he can't do it than to promise the moon and not deliver it. If Joe is from a culture in which saying no is looked on as a bad thing (I know many such cultures, they definitely exist), you need to do all you can to assuage that fear in Joe. You need to make Joe comfortable with saying no without fearing that it will cause him to lose his job or his reputation down the line. Joe probably says yes to everything because he's afraid if he says no then he will be seen as a slacker, and you need to assure Joe that that's not what's happening.
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This is not a highly talented valuable worker. This is a prima donna. People like this in a team if they don't learn to tone down and see the bigger pictures, are not a big asset in that sort of position, and can be a liability if they affect team morale.
You have already tried the nice way. Take away her status where she thinks it's her responsibility to make judgements on others until she is matured enough for the role. Talent and potential are no match for maturity and experience working with teams.
If you think her potential warrants it, give her a heads up along the lines of 'You're very good at what you do, but you're not doing everything that's needed which is part of the role. This is a team, you're going to need to take in the whole picture if I'm to let you continue in this role, I gave you a break, please don't make me regret it.' and move forwards from whether you judge her to be compliant or not. If you think she is explain to her the ramifications of the role in more detail and then see how it goes. If not, demote her role.
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From my experience, such behaviour seems to often coincide with extreme intelligence. They don't see anything wrong with their behaviour and rather wonder why other people produce "lackluster" results. The difficult part is that they are kind of correct, but that hardly is good for the team spirit and professional environment in general, where not everyone needs to be a top 1 percentile performer.
The best you can do is to try to manage/contain the extreme opinions, while trying to keep them busy with the most difficult tasks you can find. Unfortunately you will eventually run out of challenging enough tasks, and again from my experience the person is very likely to look for another employer. Try and benefit from the skill as much as you can, and make sure they document the difficult tasks so that others can continue one day.
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When I read the title I thought you meant a highly intelligent person who is critical of her seniors and is right in her criticism.
However, if the architect wasn't expected to and wasn't paid for working on the tasks she accused him of not performing, the feedback she gave him was unfair. Unfair feedback can affect team performance by creating unnecessary drama. It can affect team members' motivation and your employee's standing in the team. Not to mention that you can lose a good, as I understand, contractor because of that.
You first need to analyse whether it was a one-time mistake or she tends to be unfair and not fact-based frequently.
If it happened one time, don't care too much. If it repeats you need to talk to her.
I'm a highly critical person myself. I have very high standards and hate it when people don't fulfil them. However, I use the same high standards for myself and was mortified when I made a mistake some time ago. Holding oneself to the same rigorous standards one use for others is really a necessary thing if one doesn't want to be seen as a jerk and avoided.
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When I read the title I thought you meant a highly intelligent person who is critical of her seniors and is right in her criticism.
However, if the architect wasn't expected to and wasn't paid for working on the tasks she accused him of not performing, the feedback she gave him was unfair. Unfair feedback can affect team performance by creating unnecessary drama. It can affect team members' motivation and your employee's standing in the team. Not to mention that you can lose a good, as I understand, contractor because of that.
You first need to analyse whether it was a one-time mistake or she tends to be unfair and not fact-based frequently.
If it happened one time, don't care too much. If it repeats you need to talk to her.
I'm a highly critical person myself. I have very high standards and hate it when people don't fulfil them. However, I use the same high standards for myself and was mortified when I made a mistake some time ago. Holding oneself to the same rigorous standards one use for others is really a necessary thing if one doesn't want to be seen as a jerk and avoided.
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When I read the title I thought you meant a highly intelligent person who is critical of her seniors and is right in her criticism.
However, if the architect wasn't expected to and wasn't paid for working on the tasks she accused him of not performing, the feedback she gave him was unfair. Unfair feedback can affect team performance by creating unnecessary drama. It can affect team members' motivation and your employee's standing in the team. Not to mention that you can lose a good, as I understand, contractor because of that.
You first need to analyse whether it was a one-time mistake or she tends to be unfair and not fact-based frequently.
If it happened one time, don't care too much. If it repeats you need to talk to her.
I'm a highly critical person myself. I have very high standards and hate it when people don't fulfil them. However, I use the same high standards for myself and was mortified when I made a mistake some time ago. Holding oneself to the same rigorous standards one use for others is really a necessary thing if one doesn't want to be seen as a jerk and avoided.
When I read the title I thought you meant a highly intelligent person who is critical of her seniors and is right in her criticism.
However, if the architect wasn't expected to and wasn't paid for working on the tasks she accused him of not performing, the feedback she gave him was unfair. Unfair feedback can affect team performance by creating unnecessary drama. It can affect team members' motivation and your employee's standing in the team. Not to mention that you can lose a good, as I understand, contractor because of that.
You first need to analyse whether it was a one-time mistake or she tends to be unfair and not fact-based frequently.
If it happened one time, don't care too much. If it repeats you need to talk to her.
I'm a highly critical person myself. I have very high standards and hate it when people don't fulfil them. However, I use the same high standards for myself and was mortified when I made a mistake some time ago. Holding oneself to the same rigorous standards one use for others is really a necessary thing if one doesn't want to be seen as a jerk and avoided.
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As someone who also does this fairly regularly (although I've learned to phrase my "blasting people" into more a more generalized tone, focusing on the problem and not the person), I can empathize with her. Based on my experiences, here's what I would do:
1) Encourage her to focus on processes, not people. Rather than "Joe was late with the widget constructor", it should be "The widget constructor was late".
2) Explain the freelancer's situation. She will understand. She won't respect it, but she will at least gain perspective. However, if you think this is going to be a good enough answer for her, it isn't. Don't try to frame it as "you should accept Joe being late because XYZ", you should frame it as "Joe was late, and that's a problem. But you should understand XYZ before you go off the rails".
3) People like her (and me) just want everything to go smoothly the first time. This is important both for us and for you. The reason why we want it to go well is because, if it doesn't go well, then someone has to pick up the slack, and that person might be us. Why should we have to pick up the pieces of someone else's disaster? Have them do it right the first time, and then everything will go well. From a business perspective. if you build something poorly, then you're going to have to spend more time building it right the next time. That's more time it will take, and more money it will cost the business paying our salaries to do the same job twice. So you should care deeply about what she has to say, not only because she is saying it, but also because there are good reasons behind it.
4) Regarding this case in particular, presumably this person was waiting on Joe to finish his task before she could do her own task; she was dependent on Joe in some way. The amount of time Joe was late was time she spent twiddling her thumbs doing nothing, and people like me hate that. It's the worst feeling to be sitting in an office for 8 hours a day with nothing to do waiting on something that should have been done a week ago. We have stuff to do, there's Netflix to watch, exercise to engage in, laundry to wash, cooking to do, grocery shopping, and so on, and she's stuck at work at her desk doing nothing because Joe is late (yes, she'd be at her desk even if Joe was on time; the important part is the "doing nothing" part, which feels like a waste of time that could be better spent elsewhere). It's highly frustrating (to be honest, at the moment I'm in a similar situation which is why I'm even bothering to write this in the first place).
5) She understands that the past is the past, and she can't retroactively make Joe get his work done faster. However, she would really like it if, if Joe is going to take 3 weeks parental leave, then Joe should not commit to finishing his task until his parental leave is done. Then everyone can plan and schedule properly, and she as the Scrum Master can reprioritize work based on what will be done and when, in a proper way. She just wants everything to go smoothly, and she sees Joe as preventing her from doing that.
6) You, as the manager, should want the same thing she does, so you're working in the same direction but seem to be at odds. Therefore you, as the manager, should explain you understand her frustrations, explain to her a better way to handle herself so as not to appear so abrasive in future, and you should help her in future situations like this, e.g. by explaining "Joe is on parental leave for 3 weeks, let's not schedule things dependent on him for that period of time".
7) As for what to do with Joe, you should explain to Joe that he needs to say no. It's not a matter of looking bad or whatever, it's a matter of scheduling. If he says that he will be done a project in a week and it takes 2, then the people dependent on him to do their work in that second week will be blocked. That costs money for the business paying the salaries of people who are blocked and wasting cycles. Explain to Joe that if he can't do it, then it is better for the team for him to say he can't do it than to promise the moon and not deliver it. If Joe is from a culture in which saying no is looked on as a bad thing (I know many such cultures, they definitely exist), you need to do all you can to assuage that fear in Joe. You need to make Joe comfortable with saying no without fearing that it will cause him to lose his job or his reputation down the line. Joe probably says yes to everything because he's afraid if he says no then he will be seen as a slacker, and you need to assure Joe that that's not what's happening.
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As someone who also does this fairly regularly (although I've learned to phrase my "blasting people" into more a more generalized tone, focusing on the problem and not the person), I can empathize with her. Based on my experiences, here's what I would do:
1) Encourage her to focus on processes, not people. Rather than "Joe was late with the widget constructor", it should be "The widget constructor was late".
2) Explain the freelancer's situation. She will understand. She won't respect it, but she will at least gain perspective. However, if you think this is going to be a good enough answer for her, it isn't. Don't try to frame it as "you should accept Joe being late because XYZ", you should frame it as "Joe was late, and that's a problem. But you should understand XYZ before you go off the rails".
3) People like her (and me) just want everything to go smoothly the first time. This is important both for us and for you. The reason why we want it to go well is because, if it doesn't go well, then someone has to pick up the slack, and that person might be us. Why should we have to pick up the pieces of someone else's disaster? Have them do it right the first time, and then everything will go well. From a business perspective. if you build something poorly, then you're going to have to spend more time building it right the next time. That's more time it will take, and more money it will cost the business paying our salaries to do the same job twice. So you should care deeply about what she has to say, not only because she is saying it, but also because there are good reasons behind it.
4) Regarding this case in particular, presumably this person was waiting on Joe to finish his task before she could do her own task; she was dependent on Joe in some way. The amount of time Joe was late was time she spent twiddling her thumbs doing nothing, and people like me hate that. It's the worst feeling to be sitting in an office for 8 hours a day with nothing to do waiting on something that should have been done a week ago. We have stuff to do, there's Netflix to watch, exercise to engage in, laundry to wash, cooking to do, grocery shopping, and so on, and she's stuck at work at her desk doing nothing because Joe is late (yes, she'd be at her desk even if Joe was on time; the important part is the "doing nothing" part, which feels like a waste of time that could be better spent elsewhere). It's highly frustrating (to be honest, at the moment I'm in a similar situation which is why I'm even bothering to write this in the first place).
5) She understands that the past is the past, and she can't retroactively make Joe get his work done faster. However, she would really like it if, if Joe is going to take 3 weeks parental leave, then Joe should not commit to finishing his task until his parental leave is done. Then everyone can plan and schedule properly, and she as the Scrum Master can reprioritize work based on what will be done and when, in a proper way. She just wants everything to go smoothly, and she sees Joe as preventing her from doing that.
6) You, as the manager, should want the same thing she does, so you're working in the same direction but seem to be at odds. Therefore you, as the manager, should explain you understand her frustrations, explain to her a better way to handle herself so as not to appear so abrasive in future, and you should help her in future situations like this, e.g. by explaining "Joe is on parental leave for 3 weeks, let's not schedule things dependent on him for that period of time".
7) As for what to do with Joe, you should explain to Joe that he needs to say no. It's not a matter of looking bad or whatever, it's a matter of scheduling. If he says that he will be done a project in a week and it takes 2, then the people dependent on him to do their work in that second week will be blocked. That costs money for the business paying the salaries of people who are blocked and wasting cycles. Explain to Joe that if he can't do it, then it is better for the team for him to say he can't do it than to promise the moon and not deliver it. If Joe is from a culture in which saying no is looked on as a bad thing (I know many such cultures, they definitely exist), you need to do all you can to assuage that fear in Joe. You need to make Joe comfortable with saying no without fearing that it will cause him to lose his job or his reputation down the line. Joe probably says yes to everything because he's afraid if he says no then he will be seen as a slacker, and you need to assure Joe that that's not what's happening.
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As someone who also does this fairly regularly (although I've learned to phrase my "blasting people" into more a more generalized tone, focusing on the problem and not the person), I can empathize with her. Based on my experiences, here's what I would do:
1) Encourage her to focus on processes, not people. Rather than "Joe was late with the widget constructor", it should be "The widget constructor was late".
2) Explain the freelancer's situation. She will understand. She won't respect it, but she will at least gain perspective. However, if you think this is going to be a good enough answer for her, it isn't. Don't try to frame it as "you should accept Joe being late because XYZ", you should frame it as "Joe was late, and that's a problem. But you should understand XYZ before you go off the rails".
3) People like her (and me) just want everything to go smoothly the first time. This is important both for us and for you. The reason why we want it to go well is because, if it doesn't go well, then someone has to pick up the slack, and that person might be us. Why should we have to pick up the pieces of someone else's disaster? Have them do it right the first time, and then everything will go well. From a business perspective. if you build something poorly, then you're going to have to spend more time building it right the next time. That's more time it will take, and more money it will cost the business paying our salaries to do the same job twice. So you should care deeply about what she has to say, not only because she is saying it, but also because there are good reasons behind it.
4) Regarding this case in particular, presumably this person was waiting on Joe to finish his task before she could do her own task; she was dependent on Joe in some way. The amount of time Joe was late was time she spent twiddling her thumbs doing nothing, and people like me hate that. It's the worst feeling to be sitting in an office for 8 hours a day with nothing to do waiting on something that should have been done a week ago. We have stuff to do, there's Netflix to watch, exercise to engage in, laundry to wash, cooking to do, grocery shopping, and so on, and she's stuck at work at her desk doing nothing because Joe is late (yes, she'd be at her desk even if Joe was on time; the important part is the "doing nothing" part, which feels like a waste of time that could be better spent elsewhere). It's highly frustrating (to be honest, at the moment I'm in a similar situation which is why I'm even bothering to write this in the first place).
5) She understands that the past is the past, and she can't retroactively make Joe get his work done faster. However, she would really like it if, if Joe is going to take 3 weeks parental leave, then Joe should not commit to finishing his task until his parental leave is done. Then everyone can plan and schedule properly, and she as the Scrum Master can reprioritize work based on what will be done and when, in a proper way. She just wants everything to go smoothly, and she sees Joe as preventing her from doing that.
6) You, as the manager, should want the same thing she does, so you're working in the same direction but seem to be at odds. Therefore you, as the manager, should explain you understand her frustrations, explain to her a better way to handle herself so as not to appear so abrasive in future, and you should help her in future situations like this, e.g. by explaining "Joe is on parental leave for 3 weeks, let's not schedule things dependent on him for that period of time".
7) As for what to do with Joe, you should explain to Joe that he needs to say no. It's not a matter of looking bad or whatever, it's a matter of scheduling. If he says that he will be done a project in a week and it takes 2, then the people dependent on him to do their work in that second week will be blocked. That costs money for the business paying the salaries of people who are blocked and wasting cycles. Explain to Joe that if he can't do it, then it is better for the team for him to say he can't do it than to promise the moon and not deliver it. If Joe is from a culture in which saying no is looked on as a bad thing (I know many such cultures, they definitely exist), you need to do all you can to assuage that fear in Joe. You need to make Joe comfortable with saying no without fearing that it will cause him to lose his job or his reputation down the line. Joe probably says yes to everything because he's afraid if he says no then he will be seen as a slacker, and you need to assure Joe that that's not what's happening.
As someone who also does this fairly regularly (although I've learned to phrase my "blasting people" into more a more generalized tone, focusing on the problem and not the person), I can empathize with her. Based on my experiences, here's what I would do:
1) Encourage her to focus on processes, not people. Rather than "Joe was late with the widget constructor", it should be "The widget constructor was late".
2) Explain the freelancer's situation. She will understand. She won't respect it, but she will at least gain perspective. However, if you think this is going to be a good enough answer for her, it isn't. Don't try to frame it as "you should accept Joe being late because XYZ", you should frame it as "Joe was late, and that's a problem. But you should understand XYZ before you go off the rails".
3) People like her (and me) just want everything to go smoothly the first time. This is important both for us and for you. The reason why we want it to go well is because, if it doesn't go well, then someone has to pick up the slack, and that person might be us. Why should we have to pick up the pieces of someone else's disaster? Have them do it right the first time, and then everything will go well. From a business perspective. if you build something poorly, then you're going to have to spend more time building it right the next time. That's more time it will take, and more money it will cost the business paying our salaries to do the same job twice. So you should care deeply about what she has to say, not only because she is saying it, but also because there are good reasons behind it.
4) Regarding this case in particular, presumably this person was waiting on Joe to finish his task before she could do her own task; she was dependent on Joe in some way. The amount of time Joe was late was time she spent twiddling her thumbs doing nothing, and people like me hate that. It's the worst feeling to be sitting in an office for 8 hours a day with nothing to do waiting on something that should have been done a week ago. We have stuff to do, there's Netflix to watch, exercise to engage in, laundry to wash, cooking to do, grocery shopping, and so on, and she's stuck at work at her desk doing nothing because Joe is late (yes, she'd be at her desk even if Joe was on time; the important part is the "doing nothing" part, which feels like a waste of time that could be better spent elsewhere). It's highly frustrating (to be honest, at the moment I'm in a similar situation which is why I'm even bothering to write this in the first place).
5) She understands that the past is the past, and she can't retroactively make Joe get his work done faster. However, she would really like it if, if Joe is going to take 3 weeks parental leave, then Joe should not commit to finishing his task until his parental leave is done. Then everyone can plan and schedule properly, and she as the Scrum Master can reprioritize work based on what will be done and when, in a proper way. She just wants everything to go smoothly, and she sees Joe as preventing her from doing that.
6) You, as the manager, should want the same thing she does, so you're working in the same direction but seem to be at odds. Therefore you, as the manager, should explain you understand her frustrations, explain to her a better way to handle herself so as not to appear so abrasive in future, and you should help her in future situations like this, e.g. by explaining "Joe is on parental leave for 3 weeks, let's not schedule things dependent on him for that period of time".
7) As for what to do with Joe, you should explain to Joe that he needs to say no. It's not a matter of looking bad or whatever, it's a matter of scheduling. If he says that he will be done a project in a week and it takes 2, then the people dependent on him to do their work in that second week will be blocked. That costs money for the business paying the salaries of people who are blocked and wasting cycles. Explain to Joe that if he can't do it, then it is better for the team for him to say he can't do it than to promise the moon and not deliver it. If Joe is from a culture in which saying no is looked on as a bad thing (I know many such cultures, they definitely exist), you need to do all you can to assuage that fear in Joe. You need to make Joe comfortable with saying no without fearing that it will cause him to lose his job or his reputation down the line. Joe probably says yes to everything because he's afraid if he says no then he will be seen as a slacker, and you need to assure Joe that that's not what's happening.
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This is not a highly talented valuable worker. This is a prima donna. People like this in a team if they don't learn to tone down and see the bigger pictures, are not a big asset in that sort of position, and can be a liability if they affect team morale.
You have already tried the nice way. Take away her status where she thinks it's her responsibility to make judgements on others until she is matured enough for the role. Talent and potential are no match for maturity and experience working with teams.
If you think her potential warrants it, give her a heads up along the lines of 'You're very good at what you do, but you're not doing everything that's needed which is part of the role. This is a team, you're going to need to take in the whole picture if I'm to let you continue in this role, I gave you a break, please don't make me regret it.' and move forwards from whether you judge her to be compliant or not. If you think she is explain to her the ramifications of the role in more detail and then see how it goes. If not, demote her role.
All completely correct.
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This is not a highly talented valuable worker. This is a prima donna. People like this in a team if they don't learn to tone down and see the bigger pictures, are not a big asset in that sort of position, and can be a liability if they affect team morale.
You have already tried the nice way. Take away her status where she thinks it's her responsibility to make judgements on others until she is matured enough for the role. Talent and potential are no match for maturity and experience working with teams.
If you think her potential warrants it, give her a heads up along the lines of 'You're very good at what you do, but you're not doing everything that's needed which is part of the role. This is a team, you're going to need to take in the whole picture if I'm to let you continue in this role, I gave you a break, please don't make me regret it.' and move forwards from whether you judge her to be compliant or not. If you think she is explain to her the ramifications of the role in more detail and then see how it goes. If not, demote her role.
All completely correct.
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This is not a highly talented valuable worker. This is a prima donna. People like this in a team if they don't learn to tone down and see the bigger pictures, are not a big asset in that sort of position, and can be a liability if they affect team morale.
You have already tried the nice way. Take away her status where she thinks it's her responsibility to make judgements on others until she is matured enough for the role. Talent and potential are no match for maturity and experience working with teams.
If you think her potential warrants it, give her a heads up along the lines of 'You're very good at what you do, but you're not doing everything that's needed which is part of the role. This is a team, you're going to need to take in the whole picture if I'm to let you continue in this role, I gave you a break, please don't make me regret it.' and move forwards from whether you judge her to be compliant or not. If you think she is explain to her the ramifications of the role in more detail and then see how it goes. If not, demote her role.
This is not a highly talented valuable worker. This is a prima donna. People like this in a team if they don't learn to tone down and see the bigger pictures, are not a big asset in that sort of position, and can be a liability if they affect team morale.
You have already tried the nice way. Take away her status where she thinks it's her responsibility to make judgements on others until she is matured enough for the role. Talent and potential are no match for maturity and experience working with teams.
If you think her potential warrants it, give her a heads up along the lines of 'You're very good at what you do, but you're not doing everything that's needed which is part of the role. This is a team, you're going to need to take in the whole picture if I'm to let you continue in this role, I gave you a break, please don't make me regret it.' and move forwards from whether you judge her to be compliant or not. If you think she is explain to her the ramifications of the role in more detail and then see how it goes. If not, demote her role.
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All completely correct.
– Fattie
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All completely correct.
– Fattie
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All completely correct.
– Fattie
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All completely correct.
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From my experience, such behaviour seems to often coincide with extreme intelligence. They don't see anything wrong with their behaviour and rather wonder why other people produce "lackluster" results. The difficult part is that they are kind of correct, but that hardly is good for the team spirit and professional environment in general, where not everyone needs to be a top 1 percentile performer.
The best you can do is to try to manage/contain the extreme opinions, while trying to keep them busy with the most difficult tasks you can find. Unfortunately you will eventually run out of challenging enough tasks, and again from my experience the person is very likely to look for another employer. Try and benefit from the skill as much as you can, and make sure they document the difficult tasks so that others can continue one day.
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From my experience, such behaviour seems to often coincide with extreme intelligence. They don't see anything wrong with their behaviour and rather wonder why other people produce "lackluster" results. The difficult part is that they are kind of correct, but that hardly is good for the team spirit and professional environment in general, where not everyone needs to be a top 1 percentile performer.
The best you can do is to try to manage/contain the extreme opinions, while trying to keep them busy with the most difficult tasks you can find. Unfortunately you will eventually run out of challenging enough tasks, and again from my experience the person is very likely to look for another employer. Try and benefit from the skill as much as you can, and make sure they document the difficult tasks so that others can continue one day.
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From my experience, such behaviour seems to often coincide with extreme intelligence. They don't see anything wrong with their behaviour and rather wonder why other people produce "lackluster" results. The difficult part is that they are kind of correct, but that hardly is good for the team spirit and professional environment in general, where not everyone needs to be a top 1 percentile performer.
The best you can do is to try to manage/contain the extreme opinions, while trying to keep them busy with the most difficult tasks you can find. Unfortunately you will eventually run out of challenging enough tasks, and again from my experience the person is very likely to look for another employer. Try and benefit from the skill as much as you can, and make sure they document the difficult tasks so that others can continue one day.
From my experience, such behaviour seems to often coincide with extreme intelligence. They don't see anything wrong with their behaviour and rather wonder why other people produce "lackluster" results. The difficult part is that they are kind of correct, but that hardly is good for the team spirit and professional environment in general, where not everyone needs to be a top 1 percentile performer.
The best you can do is to try to manage/contain the extreme opinions, while trying to keep them busy with the most difficult tasks you can find. Unfortunately you will eventually run out of challenging enough tasks, and again from my experience the person is very likely to look for another employer. Try and benefit from the skill as much as you can, and make sure they document the difficult tasks so that others can continue one day.
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Had she been told that this person was on parental leave? Were the architect's stories still in the sprint?
– cdkMoose
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"When I tried to 1:1 with her to ask her to consider his situation and that she does not always complete her minor tasks when it’s lower priority she said that I was being disrespectful. " - does she often deflect from the issue when confronted with a mistake she made? Before deciding on a course of action, it's important to try and understand what is behind undesirable behavior. Perhaps she needs training and/or education. Perhaps she needs a reprimand. Perhaps she needs a mentor. Perhaps she needs to be put into a lesser role. Hard to tell without a lot more details.
– Joe Strazzere
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Yes she definitely deflects anything remotely close to a negative feedback.
– JPK
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@JPK - could she be insecure? Maybe she needs to feel safe - that it's okay to make mistakes. Some younger folks haven't yet learned that.
– Joe Strazzere
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Somehow she doesn't sound like a good fit.
– gnasher729
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