Three Point Vortices Fluid Dynamics












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I have been assigned a problem with two point vortices:




Find two point vortices whose locations in the 2D plane and strengths $gamma_1,gamma_2$ are such that their positions remain fixed in time.




My actual Question is how to do this problem with 3 point vortices of strengths $gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3$ whose positions remain fixed in time.



My proof for 2 vortices. (DISCLAIMER I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS CORRECT.)




Denote the complex potential of the two point vortices as $z_1,z_2$.
The velocity induced on $z_2$ by the vortex at $z_1$ is,
$$w(z_1)=u-iv=frac{gamma_1}{2pi i(z_1-z_2)}. $$



The velocity induced on $z_2$ by the vortex at $z_1$ is,
$$w(z_2)=u-iv=frac{gamma_2}{2pi i(z_2-z_1)}. $$



Since inviscid vorticity is simply advected by the flow, the velocity is also with which the vortex moves:



$$frac{dz_1^*}{dt}=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1}{(z_1-z_2)}$$



$$frac{dz_2^*}{dt}=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_2}{(z_2-z_1)}$$



Where the * denotes complex conjugations.



Adding and subtracting these two equations from each other, and got



$$frac{d}{dt}(z_1+z_2)=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1-gamma_2}{z_1-z_2} implies |z_1^*-z_2^*|=text{ constant} =2R $$



and



$$frac{d}{dt}(z_1^*-z_2^*)=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1-gamma_2}{(z_1-z_2)} implies |z_1-z_2|=text{ constant} =2R$$



This first result shows that the center of the two vortices is staying put while the second proves that the distance does not change. Writing then



$$z_1=Rexp(itheta), text{ and} z_2=-z_1$$



any of the two above equations of motion gives



$$frac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{gamma}{2pi R^2} $$



The first result shows that the centroid of the two vortices $color{red}{text{ is fixed within a distance } (??)}$, while the second proves
that their distance does not change. Thats the best description I've got.




**Any and all help/tips proofs would be very much appreciated. Thank you! **










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    I have been assigned a problem with two point vortices:




    Find two point vortices whose locations in the 2D plane and strengths $gamma_1,gamma_2$ are such that their positions remain fixed in time.




    My actual Question is how to do this problem with 3 point vortices of strengths $gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3$ whose positions remain fixed in time.



    My proof for 2 vortices. (DISCLAIMER I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS CORRECT.)




    Denote the complex potential of the two point vortices as $z_1,z_2$.
    The velocity induced on $z_2$ by the vortex at $z_1$ is,
    $$w(z_1)=u-iv=frac{gamma_1}{2pi i(z_1-z_2)}. $$



    The velocity induced on $z_2$ by the vortex at $z_1$ is,
    $$w(z_2)=u-iv=frac{gamma_2}{2pi i(z_2-z_1)}. $$



    Since inviscid vorticity is simply advected by the flow, the velocity is also with which the vortex moves:



    $$frac{dz_1^*}{dt}=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1}{(z_1-z_2)}$$



    $$frac{dz_2^*}{dt}=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_2}{(z_2-z_1)}$$



    Where the * denotes complex conjugations.



    Adding and subtracting these two equations from each other, and got



    $$frac{d}{dt}(z_1+z_2)=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1-gamma_2}{z_1-z_2} implies |z_1^*-z_2^*|=text{ constant} =2R $$



    and



    $$frac{d}{dt}(z_1^*-z_2^*)=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1-gamma_2}{(z_1-z_2)} implies |z_1-z_2|=text{ constant} =2R$$



    This first result shows that the center of the two vortices is staying put while the second proves that the distance does not change. Writing then



    $$z_1=Rexp(itheta), text{ and} z_2=-z_1$$



    any of the two above equations of motion gives



    $$frac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{gamma}{2pi R^2} $$



    The first result shows that the centroid of the two vortices $color{red}{text{ is fixed within a distance } (??)}$, while the second proves
    that their distance does not change. Thats the best description I've got.




    **Any and all help/tips proofs would be very much appreciated. Thank you! **










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      I have been assigned a problem with two point vortices:




      Find two point vortices whose locations in the 2D plane and strengths $gamma_1,gamma_2$ are such that their positions remain fixed in time.




      My actual Question is how to do this problem with 3 point vortices of strengths $gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3$ whose positions remain fixed in time.



      My proof for 2 vortices. (DISCLAIMER I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS CORRECT.)




      Denote the complex potential of the two point vortices as $z_1,z_2$.
      The velocity induced on $z_2$ by the vortex at $z_1$ is,
      $$w(z_1)=u-iv=frac{gamma_1}{2pi i(z_1-z_2)}. $$



      The velocity induced on $z_2$ by the vortex at $z_1$ is,
      $$w(z_2)=u-iv=frac{gamma_2}{2pi i(z_2-z_1)}. $$



      Since inviscid vorticity is simply advected by the flow, the velocity is also with which the vortex moves:



      $$frac{dz_1^*}{dt}=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1}{(z_1-z_2)}$$



      $$frac{dz_2^*}{dt}=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_2}{(z_2-z_1)}$$



      Where the * denotes complex conjugations.



      Adding and subtracting these two equations from each other, and got



      $$frac{d}{dt}(z_1+z_2)=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1-gamma_2}{z_1-z_2} implies |z_1^*-z_2^*|=text{ constant} =2R $$



      and



      $$frac{d}{dt}(z_1^*-z_2^*)=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1-gamma_2}{(z_1-z_2)} implies |z_1-z_2|=text{ constant} =2R$$



      This first result shows that the center of the two vortices is staying put while the second proves that the distance does not change. Writing then



      $$z_1=Rexp(itheta), text{ and} z_2=-z_1$$



      any of the two above equations of motion gives



      $$frac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{gamma}{2pi R^2} $$



      The first result shows that the centroid of the two vortices $color{red}{text{ is fixed within a distance } (??)}$, while the second proves
      that their distance does not change. Thats the best description I've got.




      **Any and all help/tips proofs would be very much appreciated. Thank you! **










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      I have been assigned a problem with two point vortices:




      Find two point vortices whose locations in the 2D plane and strengths $gamma_1,gamma_2$ are such that their positions remain fixed in time.




      My actual Question is how to do this problem with 3 point vortices of strengths $gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3$ whose positions remain fixed in time.



      My proof for 2 vortices. (DISCLAIMER I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS CORRECT.)




      Denote the complex potential of the two point vortices as $z_1,z_2$.
      The velocity induced on $z_2$ by the vortex at $z_1$ is,
      $$w(z_1)=u-iv=frac{gamma_1}{2pi i(z_1-z_2)}. $$



      The velocity induced on $z_2$ by the vortex at $z_1$ is,
      $$w(z_2)=u-iv=frac{gamma_2}{2pi i(z_2-z_1)}. $$



      Since inviscid vorticity is simply advected by the flow, the velocity is also with which the vortex moves:



      $$frac{dz_1^*}{dt}=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1}{(z_1-z_2)}$$



      $$frac{dz_2^*}{dt}=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_2}{(z_2-z_1)}$$



      Where the * denotes complex conjugations.



      Adding and subtracting these two equations from each other, and got



      $$frac{d}{dt}(z_1+z_2)=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1-gamma_2}{z_1-z_2} implies |z_1^*-z_2^*|=text{ constant} =2R $$



      and



      $$frac{d}{dt}(z_1^*-z_2^*)=frac{1}{2pi i}frac{gamma_1-gamma_2}{(z_1-z_2)} implies |z_1-z_2|=text{ constant} =2R$$



      This first result shows that the center of the two vortices is staying put while the second proves that the distance does not change. Writing then



      $$z_1=Rexp(itheta), text{ and} z_2=-z_1$$



      any of the two above equations of motion gives



      $$frac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{gamma}{2pi R^2} $$



      The first result shows that the centroid of the two vortices $color{red}{text{ is fixed within a distance } (??)}$, while the second proves
      that their distance does not change. Thats the best description I've got.




      **Any and all help/tips proofs would be very much appreciated. Thank you! **







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          I believe your proof of the 2 vortex is wrong, since you have not shown that the velocities are zero.



          To solve the 3 vortex case lets assume that they are originally at $z_1,z_2,z_3$ and I will use a slightly different notation than you and call $w(z_j)$ the velocity of the vortex that is at $z_j$
          $$0=w(z_1) = {gamma_2 over (z_1 -z_2)} +{gamma_3 over (z_1 -z_3)}$$
          $$0=w(z_2) = {gamma_1 over (z_2 -z_1)} +{gamma_3 over (z_2 -z_3)}$$
          $$0=w(z_3) = {gamma_2 over (z_3 -z_2)} +{gamma_1 over (z_3 -z_1)}$$
          I am ignoring the $2 i pi $ factors since the won't enter in the calculation
          lets call $a_{ij} = {1 over z_i -z_j}$ and write
          $$ left[begin{array}{ccc}
          0& a_{12}& a_{13}
          \-a_{12}& 0& a_{23}
          \=a_{13}&-a_{23}&0
          end{array}right]left[ begin{array}{c}gamma_1\gamma_2\gamma_3end{array}right]=left[ begin{array}{c}0\0\0end{array}right]$$

          before I continue, notice that for the two vortice case the equations are



          $$ left[begin{array}{cc}
          0& a_{12}
          \-a_{12}& 0
          end{array}right]left[ begin{array}{c}gamma_1\gamma_2end{array}right]=left[ begin{array}{c}0\0end{array}right]$$
          which can only be solved with zero vortex intensities.



          in order to solve we can consider an easy case, when all vortices are on the $x$ axis so that $a$'s are real. Then we have a cross product $[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]times[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=[0,0,0]$ so that by setting the $vec{gamma}$ vector to be parallel to $[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]$ we are done:
          $$[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=K[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]$$ for any real K.
          Example:
          $$z_1,z_2,z_3=1,2,3$$,
          $$a_{23}={1over (2-3)} =-1 ; a_{13}={1over (1-3)} =-1/2; a_{12}={1over (1-2)} =-1 $$
          $$[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=K[1,-1/2,1]$$
          Any 3 co-linear vortices should work (you remove the phase by adjusting the $K$), but I am not sure you can find a non co-linear solution with 3 vortices.






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            I believe your proof of the 2 vortex is wrong, since you have not shown that the velocities are zero.



            To solve the 3 vortex case lets assume that they are originally at $z_1,z_2,z_3$ and I will use a slightly different notation than you and call $w(z_j)$ the velocity of the vortex that is at $z_j$
            $$0=w(z_1) = {gamma_2 over (z_1 -z_2)} +{gamma_3 over (z_1 -z_3)}$$
            $$0=w(z_2) = {gamma_1 over (z_2 -z_1)} +{gamma_3 over (z_2 -z_3)}$$
            $$0=w(z_3) = {gamma_2 over (z_3 -z_2)} +{gamma_1 over (z_3 -z_1)}$$
            I am ignoring the $2 i pi $ factors since the won't enter in the calculation
            lets call $a_{ij} = {1 over z_i -z_j}$ and write
            $$ left[begin{array}{ccc}
            0& a_{12}& a_{13}
            \-a_{12}& 0& a_{23}
            \=a_{13}&-a_{23}&0
            end{array}right]left[ begin{array}{c}gamma_1\gamma_2\gamma_3end{array}right]=left[ begin{array}{c}0\0\0end{array}right]$$

            before I continue, notice that for the two vortice case the equations are



            $$ left[begin{array}{cc}
            0& a_{12}
            \-a_{12}& 0
            end{array}right]left[ begin{array}{c}gamma_1\gamma_2end{array}right]=left[ begin{array}{c}0\0end{array}right]$$
            which can only be solved with zero vortex intensities.



            in order to solve we can consider an easy case, when all vortices are on the $x$ axis so that $a$'s are real. Then we have a cross product $[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]times[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=[0,0,0]$ so that by setting the $vec{gamma}$ vector to be parallel to $[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]$ we are done:
            $$[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=K[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]$$ for any real K.
            Example:
            $$z_1,z_2,z_3=1,2,3$$,
            $$a_{23}={1over (2-3)} =-1 ; a_{13}={1over (1-3)} =-1/2; a_{12}={1over (1-2)} =-1 $$
            $$[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=K[1,-1/2,1]$$
            Any 3 co-linear vortices should work (you remove the phase by adjusting the $K$), but I am not sure you can find a non co-linear solution with 3 vortices.






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              I believe your proof of the 2 vortex is wrong, since you have not shown that the velocities are zero.



              To solve the 3 vortex case lets assume that they are originally at $z_1,z_2,z_3$ and I will use a slightly different notation than you and call $w(z_j)$ the velocity of the vortex that is at $z_j$
              $$0=w(z_1) = {gamma_2 over (z_1 -z_2)} +{gamma_3 over (z_1 -z_3)}$$
              $$0=w(z_2) = {gamma_1 over (z_2 -z_1)} +{gamma_3 over (z_2 -z_3)}$$
              $$0=w(z_3) = {gamma_2 over (z_3 -z_2)} +{gamma_1 over (z_3 -z_1)}$$
              I am ignoring the $2 i pi $ factors since the won't enter in the calculation
              lets call $a_{ij} = {1 over z_i -z_j}$ and write
              $$ left[begin{array}{ccc}
              0& a_{12}& a_{13}
              \-a_{12}& 0& a_{23}
              \=a_{13}&-a_{23}&0
              end{array}right]left[ begin{array}{c}gamma_1\gamma_2\gamma_3end{array}right]=left[ begin{array}{c}0\0\0end{array}right]$$

              before I continue, notice that for the two vortice case the equations are



              $$ left[begin{array}{cc}
              0& a_{12}
              \-a_{12}& 0
              end{array}right]left[ begin{array}{c}gamma_1\gamma_2end{array}right]=left[ begin{array}{c}0\0end{array}right]$$
              which can only be solved with zero vortex intensities.



              in order to solve we can consider an easy case, when all vortices are on the $x$ axis so that $a$'s are real. Then we have a cross product $[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]times[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=[0,0,0]$ so that by setting the $vec{gamma}$ vector to be parallel to $[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]$ we are done:
              $$[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=K[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]$$ for any real K.
              Example:
              $$z_1,z_2,z_3=1,2,3$$,
              $$a_{23}={1over (2-3)} =-1 ; a_{13}={1over (1-3)} =-1/2; a_{12}={1over (1-2)} =-1 $$
              $$[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=K[1,-1/2,1]$$
              Any 3 co-linear vortices should work (you remove the phase by adjusting the $K$), but I am not sure you can find a non co-linear solution with 3 vortices.






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                I believe your proof of the 2 vortex is wrong, since you have not shown that the velocities are zero.



                To solve the 3 vortex case lets assume that they are originally at $z_1,z_2,z_3$ and I will use a slightly different notation than you and call $w(z_j)$ the velocity of the vortex that is at $z_j$
                $$0=w(z_1) = {gamma_2 over (z_1 -z_2)} +{gamma_3 over (z_1 -z_3)}$$
                $$0=w(z_2) = {gamma_1 over (z_2 -z_1)} +{gamma_3 over (z_2 -z_3)}$$
                $$0=w(z_3) = {gamma_2 over (z_3 -z_2)} +{gamma_1 over (z_3 -z_1)}$$
                I am ignoring the $2 i pi $ factors since the won't enter in the calculation
                lets call $a_{ij} = {1 over z_i -z_j}$ and write
                $$ left[begin{array}{ccc}
                0& a_{12}& a_{13}
                \-a_{12}& 0& a_{23}
                \=a_{13}&-a_{23}&0
                end{array}right]left[ begin{array}{c}gamma_1\gamma_2\gamma_3end{array}right]=left[ begin{array}{c}0\0\0end{array}right]$$

                before I continue, notice that for the two vortice case the equations are



                $$ left[begin{array}{cc}
                0& a_{12}
                \-a_{12}& 0
                end{array}right]left[ begin{array}{c}gamma_1\gamma_2end{array}right]=left[ begin{array}{c}0\0end{array}right]$$
                which can only be solved with zero vortex intensities.



                in order to solve we can consider an easy case, when all vortices are on the $x$ axis so that $a$'s are real. Then we have a cross product $[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]times[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=[0,0,0]$ so that by setting the $vec{gamma}$ vector to be parallel to $[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]$ we are done:
                $$[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=K[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]$$ for any real K.
                Example:
                $$z_1,z_2,z_3=1,2,3$$,
                $$a_{23}={1over (2-3)} =-1 ; a_{13}={1over (1-3)} =-1/2; a_{12}={1over (1-2)} =-1 $$
                $$[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=K[1,-1/2,1]$$
                Any 3 co-linear vortices should work (you remove the phase by adjusting the $K$), but I am not sure you can find a non co-linear solution with 3 vortices.






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                I believe your proof of the 2 vortex is wrong, since you have not shown that the velocities are zero.



                To solve the 3 vortex case lets assume that they are originally at $z_1,z_2,z_3$ and I will use a slightly different notation than you and call $w(z_j)$ the velocity of the vortex that is at $z_j$
                $$0=w(z_1) = {gamma_2 over (z_1 -z_2)} +{gamma_3 over (z_1 -z_3)}$$
                $$0=w(z_2) = {gamma_1 over (z_2 -z_1)} +{gamma_3 over (z_2 -z_3)}$$
                $$0=w(z_3) = {gamma_2 over (z_3 -z_2)} +{gamma_1 over (z_3 -z_1)}$$
                I am ignoring the $2 i pi $ factors since the won't enter in the calculation
                lets call $a_{ij} = {1 over z_i -z_j}$ and write
                $$ left[begin{array}{ccc}
                0& a_{12}& a_{13}
                \-a_{12}& 0& a_{23}
                \=a_{13}&-a_{23}&0
                end{array}right]left[ begin{array}{c}gamma_1\gamma_2\gamma_3end{array}right]=left[ begin{array}{c}0\0\0end{array}right]$$

                before I continue, notice that for the two vortice case the equations are



                $$ left[begin{array}{cc}
                0& a_{12}
                \-a_{12}& 0
                end{array}right]left[ begin{array}{c}gamma_1\gamma_2end{array}right]=left[ begin{array}{c}0\0end{array}right]$$
                which can only be solved with zero vortex intensities.



                in order to solve we can consider an easy case, when all vortices are on the $x$ axis so that $a$'s are real. Then we have a cross product $[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]times[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=[0,0,0]$ so that by setting the $vec{gamma}$ vector to be parallel to $[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]$ we are done:
                $$[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=K[-a_{23},a_{13},-a_{12}]$$ for any real K.
                Example:
                $$z_1,z_2,z_3=1,2,3$$,
                $$a_{23}={1over (2-3)} =-1 ; a_{13}={1over (1-3)} =-1/2; a_{12}={1over (1-2)} =-1 $$
                $$[gamma_1,gamma_2,gamma_3]=K[1,-1/2,1]$$
                Any 3 co-linear vortices should work (you remove the phase by adjusting the $K$), but I am not sure you can find a non co-linear solution with 3 vortices.







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