Show $p lor (p land q ) equiv p $ using equivalences












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I am trying to show $p lor (p land q ) equiv p $ using equivalences.



I have tried many replacements (e.g. distributivity and de Morgans) but cannot see a way to simplify the left hand side that reduces to $p$.



Here are is a list of logical equivalences from wikipedia.



I know that this statement is true (via truth tables), but I cannot derive this using equivalences. Ideas appreciated.










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I am trying to show $p lor (p land q ) equiv p $ using equivalences.



I have tried many replacements (e.g. distributivity and de Morgans) but cannot see a way to simplify the left hand side that reduces to $p$.



Here are is a list of logical equivalences from wikipedia.



I know that this statement is true (via truth tables), but I cannot derive this using equivalences. Ideas appreciated.










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    Law of absorption. This is an axiom in lattice theory.
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I am trying to show $p lor (p land q ) equiv p $ using equivalences.



I have tried many replacements (e.g. distributivity and de Morgans) but cannot see a way to simplify the left hand side that reduces to $p$.



Here are is a list of logical equivalences from wikipedia.



I know that this statement is true (via truth tables), but I cannot derive this using equivalences. Ideas appreciated.










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I am trying to show $p lor (p land q ) equiv p $ using equivalences.



I have tried many replacements (e.g. distributivity and de Morgans) but cannot see a way to simplify the left hand side that reduces to $p$.



Here are is a list of logical equivalences from wikipedia.



I know that this statement is true (via truth tables), but I cannot derive this using equivalences. Ideas appreciated.







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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Law of absorption. This is an axiom in lattice theory.
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    – Wuestenfux
    Dec 14 '18 at 11:39














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Law of absorption. This is an axiom in lattice theory.
    $endgroup$
    – Wuestenfux
    Dec 14 '18 at 11:39








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$begingroup$
Law of absorption. This is an axiom in lattice theory.
$endgroup$
– Wuestenfux
Dec 14 '18 at 11:39




$begingroup$
Law of absorption. This is an axiom in lattice theory.
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– Wuestenfux
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It's in the list ... but some texts like to derive it as follows:



$$p lor (p land q) equiv (p land top) lor (p land q) equiv p land (top lor q) equiv p land top equiv p$$






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    @RobArthan That's an instance of Distribution ... which is often not derived from other equivalence principles. That is, Distribution is often a given equivalence principle.
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    @RobArthan By Distribution I mean $p land (q lor r) equiv (p land q) lor (p land r)$
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    @RobArthan Why not? $p=p$, $q= top$, and $r=q$ ...
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    RIght - my brain was not in gear!
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    @RobArthan No worries! It was probably because it went in the 'opposite' direction of what you normally understand 'Distribution' to be ... more like a 'Reverse Distribution' or 'Un-Distribution' or 'Factoring'
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    – Bram28
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This is listed, verbatim, as one of the absorbtion laws in the wikipedia page you linked.






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    It's in the list ... but some texts like to derive it as follows:



    $$p lor (p land q) equiv (p land top) lor (p land q) equiv p land (top lor q) equiv p land top equiv p$$






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      @RobArthan That's an instance of Distribution ... which is often not derived from other equivalence principles. That is, Distribution is often a given equivalence principle.
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      – Bram28
      Dec 15 '18 at 21:00










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      @RobArthan By Distribution I mean $p land (q lor r) equiv (p land q) lor (p land r)$
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      – Bram28
      Dec 15 '18 at 21:53










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      @RobArthan Why not? $p=p$, $q= top$, and $r=q$ ...
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 16 '18 at 0:10










    • $begingroup$
      RIght - my brain was not in gear!
      $endgroup$
      – Rob Arthan
      Dec 16 '18 at 12:11










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      @RobArthan No worries! It was probably because it went in the 'opposite' direction of what you normally understand 'Distribution' to be ... more like a 'Reverse Distribution' or 'Un-Distribution' or 'Factoring'
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 16 '18 at 12:33
















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    $begingroup$

    It's in the list ... but some texts like to derive it as follows:



    $$p lor (p land q) equiv (p land top) lor (p land q) equiv p land (top lor q) equiv p land top equiv p$$






    share|cite|improve this answer









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    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan That's an instance of Distribution ... which is often not derived from other equivalence principles. That is, Distribution is often a given equivalence principle.
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 15 '18 at 21:00










    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan By Distribution I mean $p land (q lor r) equiv (p land q) lor (p land r)$
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 15 '18 at 21:53










    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan Why not? $p=p$, $q= top$, and $r=q$ ...
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 16 '18 at 0:10










    • $begingroup$
      RIght - my brain was not in gear!
      $endgroup$
      – Rob Arthan
      Dec 16 '18 at 12:11










    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan No worries! It was probably because it went in the 'opposite' direction of what you normally understand 'Distribution' to be ... more like a 'Reverse Distribution' or 'Un-Distribution' or 'Factoring'
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 16 '18 at 12:33














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    $begingroup$

    It's in the list ... but some texts like to derive it as follows:



    $$p lor (p land q) equiv (p land top) lor (p land q) equiv p land (top lor q) equiv p land top equiv p$$






    share|cite|improve this answer









    $endgroup$



    It's in the list ... but some texts like to derive it as follows:



    $$p lor (p land q) equiv (p land top) lor (p land q) equiv p land (top lor q) equiv p land top equiv p$$







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    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan That's an instance of Distribution ... which is often not derived from other equivalence principles. That is, Distribution is often a given equivalence principle.
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 15 '18 at 21:00










    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan By Distribution I mean $p land (q lor r) equiv (p land q) lor (p land r)$
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 15 '18 at 21:53










    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan Why not? $p=p$, $q= top$, and $r=q$ ...
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 16 '18 at 0:10










    • $begingroup$
      RIght - my brain was not in gear!
      $endgroup$
      – Rob Arthan
      Dec 16 '18 at 12:11










    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan No worries! It was probably because it went in the 'opposite' direction of what you normally understand 'Distribution' to be ... more like a 'Reverse Distribution' or 'Un-Distribution' or 'Factoring'
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 16 '18 at 12:33


















    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan That's an instance of Distribution ... which is often not derived from other equivalence principles. That is, Distribution is often a given equivalence principle.
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 15 '18 at 21:00










    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan By Distribution I mean $p land (q lor r) equiv (p land q) lor (p land r)$
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 15 '18 at 21:53










    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan Why not? $p=p$, $q= top$, and $r=q$ ...
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 16 '18 at 0:10










    • $begingroup$
      RIght - my brain was not in gear!
      $endgroup$
      – Rob Arthan
      Dec 16 '18 at 12:11










    • $begingroup$
      @RobArthan No worries! It was probably because it went in the 'opposite' direction of what you normally understand 'Distribution' to be ... more like a 'Reverse Distribution' or 'Un-Distribution' or 'Factoring'
      $endgroup$
      – Bram28
      Dec 16 '18 at 12:33
















    $begingroup$
    @RobArthan That's an instance of Distribution ... which is often not derived from other equivalence principles. That is, Distribution is often a given equivalence principle.
    $endgroup$
    – Bram28
    Dec 15 '18 at 21:00




    $begingroup$
    @RobArthan That's an instance of Distribution ... which is often not derived from other equivalence principles. That is, Distribution is often a given equivalence principle.
    $endgroup$
    – Bram28
    Dec 15 '18 at 21:00












    $begingroup$
    @RobArthan By Distribution I mean $p land (q lor r) equiv (p land q) lor (p land r)$
    $endgroup$
    – Bram28
    Dec 15 '18 at 21:53




    $begingroup$
    @RobArthan By Distribution I mean $p land (q lor r) equiv (p land q) lor (p land r)$
    $endgroup$
    – Bram28
    Dec 15 '18 at 21:53












    $begingroup$
    @RobArthan Why not? $p=p$, $q= top$, and $r=q$ ...
    $endgroup$
    – Bram28
    Dec 16 '18 at 0:10




    $begingroup$
    @RobArthan Why not? $p=p$, $q= top$, and $r=q$ ...
    $endgroup$
    – Bram28
    Dec 16 '18 at 0:10












    $begingroup$
    RIght - my brain was not in gear!
    $endgroup$
    – Rob Arthan
    Dec 16 '18 at 12:11




    $begingroup$
    RIght - my brain was not in gear!
    $endgroup$
    – Rob Arthan
    Dec 16 '18 at 12:11












    $begingroup$
    @RobArthan No worries! It was probably because it went in the 'opposite' direction of what you normally understand 'Distribution' to be ... more like a 'Reverse Distribution' or 'Un-Distribution' or 'Factoring'
    $endgroup$
    – Bram28
    Dec 16 '18 at 12:33




    $begingroup$
    @RobArthan No worries! It was probably because it went in the 'opposite' direction of what you normally understand 'Distribution' to be ... more like a 'Reverse Distribution' or 'Un-Distribution' or 'Factoring'
    $endgroup$
    – Bram28
    Dec 16 '18 at 12:33











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    This is listed, verbatim, as one of the absorbtion laws in the wikipedia page you linked.






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      This is listed, verbatim, as one of the absorbtion laws in the wikipedia page you linked.






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        This is listed, verbatim, as one of the absorbtion laws in the wikipedia page you linked.






        share|cite|improve this answer









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        This is listed, verbatim, as one of the absorbtion laws in the wikipedia page you linked.







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